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Message 13512 - Posted: 3 Nov 2007, 16:52:40 UTC - in response to Message 13509.  

And a big disadvantage of the tree shaped thread is that you can't really browse the thread as a whole, you have to click each and every post separately. That's far too inconvenient, I would not like to have this "feature" in this forum, imho it makes it less readable.

*Optional* feature. Don't like it, don't use it; but keep the tree structure (by not replying to the thread when you're answering a specific post) to let others use it.

I usually "reply to post" if I want to quote something, otherwise I reply to thread. If I want to answer to several posts in one answer, I usually take the next best for the initial reply and insert the second quote by hand. That may not be in the "right thread" in regard of tree structure, but that's nor my business.

But what does trimming a quote mean? Deleting part of it?
How could you quote a complete previous post?

I don't know how this auto-shortening will work, and whether the important parts will be deleted and how the software will know what's important (content detection?). Or is it just the scrolling stuff that's to be seen @Pirates?
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Message 13514 - Posted: 3 Nov 2007, 17:05:06 UTC - in response to Message 13512.  

But what does trimming a quote mean? Deleting part of it?
How could you quote a complete previous post?

I don't know how this auto-shortening will work, and whether the important parts will be deleted and how the software will know what's important (content detection?). Or is it just the scrolling stuff that's to be seen @Pirates?

There is no auto-shortening. If you don't shorten it manually and delete the TRIM_ prefix, the WHOLE quote gets removed.
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Message 13517 - Posted: 3 Nov 2007, 17:13:17 UTC - in response to Message 13514.  

But what does trimming a quote mean? Deleting part of it?
How could you quote a complete previous post?

I don't know how this auto-shortening will work, and whether the important parts will be deleted and how the software will know what's important (content detection?). Or is it just the scrolling stuff that's to be seen @Pirates?

There is no auto-shortening. If you don't shorten it manually and delete the TRIM_ prefix, the WHOLE quote gets removed.

But WTF is "trimming"?
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Message 13518 - Posted: 3 Nov 2007, 17:18:02 UTC - in response to Message 13517.  

But WTF is "trimming"?

Making it shorter.

Actually, the forum won't notice if you really made it shorter or not. It just deletes the contents of [TRIM_THIS_quote] tags. If a user actually reads the instructions saying to make it shorter, he would delete TRIM_THIS_ and the quote shows. Somebody who wants the full quote can just delete TRIM_THIS_ without doing any shortening. A newbie who just sticks his "me too" at the end of the huge quote wouldn't delete it.

Anyway, not my idea. Wait for Eric's replies :)
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Message 13519 - Posted: 3 Nov 2007, 17:25:34 UTC - in response to Message 13518.  

But WTF is "trimming"?

Making it shorter.

Actually, the forum won't notice if you really made it shorter or not. It just deletes the contents of [TRIM_THIS_quote] tags. If a user actually reads the instructions saying to make it shorter, he would delete TRIM_THIS_ and the quote shows. Somebody who wants the full quote can just delete TRIM_THIS_ without doing any shortening. A newbie who just sticks his "me too" at the end of the huge quote wouldn't delete it.

That's not "making it shorter", that's complete deletion.
"Making it shorter" is the random or targeted deletion of parts of the message, with auto-trimming it can only be random or complete deletion, why bother to include it at all if it should not be in the message at all? Those with more experience will still be able to include a quote (like I usually do with the BBCodeXtra plugin for my FF), those not so savvy would not be tricked to think they will include a quote that's to be deleted once the message is sent.
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Message 13562 - Posted: 4 Nov 2007, 16:16:47 UTC - in response to Message 13423.  

... We also put the "post to thread" (not marked "reply") right next to the "reply to *this* post" link, to encourage people to choose wisely between the two. ...


Maybe another trick would be to rename the "Post to thread" button and use "Create new branch" instead, which would make the effect clearer.
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Message 13563 - Posted: 4 Nov 2007, 16:23:14 UTC - in response to Message 13562.  

... We also put the "post to thread" (not marked "reply") right next to the "reply to *this* post" link, to encourage people to choose wisely between the two. ...


Maybe another trick would be to rename the "Post to thread" button and use "Create new branch" instead, which would make the effect clearer.

Wouldn't make it clearer for me (or any web user), would only confuse me, as here are no branches anywhere to see.
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Message 13564 - Posted: 4 Nov 2007, 17:19:57 UTC

You could end up with 20 or 30 separate branches, each consisting of only one or two posts, and there's be no continuity.
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Message 13576 - Posted: 4 Nov 2007, 21:21:44 UTC - in response to Message 13564.  

You could end up with 20 or 30 separate branches, each consisting of only one or two posts, and there's be no continuity.


And that does not happen when the button says "Post to thread" but still creates a new branch in a threaded board?
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