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Lucas Dobre

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Message 113165 - Posted: 24 Nov 2023, 22:06:00 UTC - in response to Message 113164.  
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Sounds a bit weird. I thought proportional was just in deciding how many seats you got, for example in seats A B and C, party X gets only 5000 voters in each. In the UK first past the post system, party X would have no seats. In proportional, that would total 15000 votes, which would count as 1 seat.
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Message 113166 - Posted: 24 Nov 2023, 23:45:53 UTC - in response to Message 113165.  

We had 22 parties we could choose from these last elections, of which only 15 managed to get enough votes for seats.
How these parties will now continue, you can best read at https://www.houseofrepresentatives.nl/elections, which is a lengthy process, can take a year.
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Message 113167 - Posted: 25 Nov 2023, 0:04:40 UTC

Wow, sounds like the rules for winning a gameshow. I'd make it really simple, count the number of votes in the country, the party with the most votes gets in power. Doesn't have to be a majority, just more than any other.
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Message 113169 - Posted: 25 Nov 2023, 8:11:05 UTC - in response to Message 113165.  
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I was doing it on my phone so wasn't as clear as I might have been. The same as here, the party with the most seats gets the first chance at forming a government but if the others don't want to play with them and can form a majority between them to keep the party with the most seats out, they can. There are a few different proportional systems around, all with their own pros and cons.

Party winning most seats unless they are very close to getting a majority is likely to have a lot of their legislation voted down. I personally think it is a much better system than first past the post as in UK but then I support a party which would get a lot more seats under it.
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Message 113170 - Posted: 25 Nov 2023, 13:11:41 UTC
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That makes sense. So over there they can't form a non-majority government on their own? I was under the impression it could happen in the UK, but they'd have a hard time passing anything the others didn't agree with. Should still work - any legislation others want too will pass. It wouldn't grind the country to a halt, you just wouldn't get radical changes made.
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Message 113171 - Posted: 25 Nov 2023, 16:31:51 UTC - in response to Message 113170.  

Yes, in UK we have had minority governments but if the opposition parties decide to get together for a vote of no confidence in the government, then if there isn't a combination of parties that will cooperate to form a government then it triggers a general election. I don't know how the mechanics of that work in other countries though.
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