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Message 103459 - Posted: 8 Mar 2021, 12:03:46 UTC

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Message 103468 - Posted: 8 Mar 2021, 17:59:41 UTC - in response to Message 103456.  
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Oops! Suspended network activity on Saturday to avoid interfering with two separate zoom meetings going on much of the day. Forgot to turn it back on till this morning and now have 2GB of data to upload. That will keep the bored band busy for a while!
That would be only half an hour for me. You do have fibre, right? Still not fast enough? That 300Mbit Elon Musk satellite thing is ready I think, somebody in Kent tested it.
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Message 103469 - Posted: 8 Mar 2021, 20:30:52 UTC - in response to Message 103468.  

You do have fibre, right?

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Message 103473 - Posted: 9 Mar 2021, 19:03:16 UTC - in response to Message 103469.  

You do have fibre, right?

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Even my Aunt and Uncle in their 80s have fibre, in the middle of a 1000 acre estate with only 14 houses in it. And my parents up in the middle of the Highlands of Scotland. It only cost them £6 a month extra to upgrade. I think you can get it anywhere in the UK now.
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Message 103475 - Posted: 9 Mar 2021, 22:48:35 UTC - in response to Message 103473.  

You do have fibre, right?

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Even my Aunt and Uncle in their 80s have fibre, in the middle of a 1000 acre estate with only 14 houses in it. And my parents up in the middle of the Highlands of Scotland. It only cost them £6 a month extra to upgrade. I think you can get it anywhere in the UK now.


I could get it now but I choose not to give the only company offering it in my street my custom.
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Message 103479 - Posted: 10 Mar 2021, 18:11:21 UTC - in response to Message 103475.  

You do have fibre, right?

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Even my Aunt and Uncle in their 80s have fibre, in the middle of a 1000 acre estate with only 14 houses in it. And my parents up in the middle of the Highlands of Scotland. It only cost them £6 a month extra to upgrade. I think you can get it anywhere in the UK now.


I could get it now but I choose not to give the only company offering it in my street my custom.
Unless you're in Hull, which seems to have its own laws, I thought everywhere could use any fibre company (although BT always do the wiring).
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Message 103480 - Posted: 10 Mar 2021, 19:45:48 UTC - in response to Message 103479.  

Unless you're in Hull, which seems to have its own laws, I thought everywhere could use any fibre company (although BT always do the wiring).


BT only has copper in our street. BT say 2028 for upgrading all their lines to fibre though I am hoping we get done before that. So long as I don't forget to turn network activity back on for BOINC when I have turned it off, it copes with the uploads of about 3GB a day with the tasks I am currently running.
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Message 103481 - Posted: 10 Mar 2021, 21:10:40 UTC - in response to Message 103480.  

Much the same where I live, when I asked BT a few weeks ago "When will fibre come to this corner of town?" the answer was "At least two, probably three years".
I'm only a few miles from Birmingham, in an expanding town with a population heading toward 100k. Further pressed they admitted they were doing the new-builds before thinking about in-filling the rest......
As for where my brother lives, it's more like five years, but then he does enjoy the peace of living on the edge of one of the moors in the south west where cell phones only work when there are no leaves on the trees (I jest not!).
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Message 103485 - Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 19:08:06 UTC - in response to Message 103480.  

Unless you're in Hull, which seems to have its own laws, I thought everywhere could use any fibre company (although BT always do the wiring).


BT only has copper in our street. BT say 2028 for upgrading all their lines to fibre though I am hoping we get done before that. So long as I don't forget to turn network activity back on for BOINC when I have turned it off, it copes with the uploads of about 3GB a day with the tasks I am currently running.
Wow, I thought fibre was everywhere now. I'm sure I got it over a decade ago, and the whole country was meant to be done in 5 years. Get that Elon Musk satellite thing.

Can you tell Boinc to use less network activity? As in slower? That way you could leave it on all the time without interfering with other uses. Or perhaps pause it like you can pause computing?
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Message 103486 - Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 19:10:58 UTC - in response to Message 103481.  

Much the same where I live, when I asked BT a few weeks ago "When will fibre come to this corner of town?" the answer was "At least two, probably three years".
I'm only a few miles from Birmingham, in an expanding town with a population heading toward 100k. Further pressed they admitted they were doing the new-builds before thinking about in-filling the rest......
As for where my brother lives, it's more like five years, but then he does enjoy the peace of living on the edge of one of the moors in the south west where cell phones only work when there are no leaves on the trees (I jest not!).
My parents live in a village of 640 people, 10 miles from the nearest town which is 3,240 people. They got fibre about 3 years ago. Maybe it depends if there's an MP living there!
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Message 103488 - Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 21:09:58 UTC - in response to Message 103486.  

MP is not the case - I live just round the corner from mine.
It's BT's "resource planning", the town has a huge number of new houses being built and they get priority (in BT's eyes) over their long suffering customers.
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Message 103489 - Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 2:41:36 UTC - in response to Message 103488.  

MP is not the case - I live just round the corner from mine.
It's BT's "resource planning", the town has a huge number of new houses being built and they get priority (in BT's eyes) over their long suffering customers.

Find out if BT charges an extra fee or gets a subsidy to connect a new house as opposed to an old one.
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Message 103491 - Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 5:55:41 UTC - in response to Message 103485.  

Can you tell Boinc to use less network activity? As in slower? That way you could leave it on all the time without interfering with other uses. Or perhaps pause it like you can pause computing?


This particular conversations started because I posted that I forgot to turn network activity back on and yes BOINC does let you restrict upload and download speeds. Fortunately I don't have a threadripper with 64 or 128 tasks running or I would then be producing data faster than it could be uploaded if I throttled the BOINC upload rate.
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Message 103492 - Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 8:30:00 UTC - in response to Message 103489.  

More dough - if they are doing fibre down your street it is nominally "free", but if they are laying fibre where no phone lines exist it's £££££££££££
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Message 103493 - Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 9:00:53 UTC - in response to Message 103492.  

I suspect it would be very difficult to sell a new house without a decent internet connection - or at least, there'd be a huge price penalty. Imagine trying to sell a house with no electricity supply.

The developer will pay - grumbling, over a barrel, but they'll pay.

There are stories from a decade or more ago where the developer laid the telecoms infrastructure with aluminium, instead of copper, wiring - to save money. It turned out to be incompatible with ADSL broadband. I don't think they'll make that mistake again, with so many people working from home.
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Message 103494 - Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 9:11:15 UTC - in response to Message 103493.  

That explains why BT are having to replace miles of "copper" in some of the newer estates around here, while those of us in the outlying longer established estates just sit waiting and waiting and waiting......
(They are actually pulling in two cables at once, a "copper" one and a fibre one", however they are not automatically connecting houses to the fibre cables....)
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Message 103495 - Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 10:59:32 UTC

Before the next round of answers comes from Peter Hucker, quoting every post individually, may I ask people to please stay on topic in my thread? It's here for Grumbles, Glory and Covid-19 posts, not to spell out your wants and needs of internet connections and how good and bad your ISPs are. Go post that into the Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! thread.
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Message 103509 - Posted: 13 Mar 2021, 18:29:26 UTC

Humans are not the only ones that are happy that 'COVID-19 lockdows' are over (in some places).
Meerkats seem to rejoice when zoo visitors return after lockdown... Penguins just carried on as normal.
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Message 103511 - Posted: 13 Mar 2021, 19:46:39 UTC - in response to Message 103495.  

Before the next round of answers comes from Peter Hucker, quoting every post individually, may I ask people to please stay on topic in my thread? It's here for Grumbles, Glory and Covid-19 posts, not to spell out your wants and needs of internet connections and how good and bad your ISPs are. Go post that into the Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! thread.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Conversation-Talking-Improves-Lives/dp/184854166X

And stop blaming me, since there are about 5 people discussing it.
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Message 103513 - Posted: 13 Mar 2021, 20:29:55 UTC

Bitcoin just breached $60,000.- or €50.000,- and still going up.
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