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Message 102883 - Posted: 8 Feb 2021, 18:29:18 UTC - in response to Message 102880.  

I can't be expected to read every fine detail on the policy.
Actually you ARE expected to.
And if you don't, then they've got you on a legal technicality.
Some day these legal types will get a grip on reality and realise that Joe Public does not read 20 pages of fineprint. Whatever happened to the Plain English Society?

They are still around and the legal profession is still one of their main targets.
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Message 102887 - Posted: 8 Feb 2021, 18:33:29 UTC

Can you all please stop the current discussion in this thread and continue that in Don't know where it should go? Stick it here!, because it's got nothing to do with Glory, Grumbles or Covid-19.
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Message 102892 - Posted: 8 Feb 2021, 23:22:28 UTC

The dead woman family should be ashamed of themselves for filing such a frivolous law suit.

$adly, the manufacturer will probably settle out of court for an undisclosed amount just to "make it go away".

She could not of been too intelligent to consume the product in the first place.

Family of woman who drank hand sanitizer sues firm that made it
... medical examiner determined death was caused by acute methanol intoxication
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Message 102894 - Posted: 9 Feb 2021, 7:33:01 UTC - in response to Message 102884.  

That's what I always said should happen, so it is actually the case over there? Causing an accident gets points on your license? They should do that instead of speeding tickets. Much better for someone to speed and never crash than someone to drive at the limit and cause accidents. Yet in the UK, the speeder gets the punishment.


Given how many accidents are caused by speeding, to me, it makes sense. If you cause a crash and are deemed to be at fault if sufficiently egregious you will get done for dangerous driving/driving without due care and attention as well as for the speeding if caught for that.
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Message 102900 - Posted: 9 Feb 2021, 9:10:49 UTC - in response to Message 102892.  

The dead woman family should be ashamed of themselves for filing such a frivolous law suit.

$adly, the manufacturer will probably settle out of court for an undisclosed amount just to "make it go away".

She could not of been too intelligent to consume the product in the first place.

Family of woman who drank hand sanitizer sues firm that made it
... medical examiner determined death was caused by acute methanol intoxication


The text I see on clicking on the link is strange to say the least.
ST. LOUIS - The family of an Illinois woman who died last year after drinking hand sanitizer contaminated with methanol is suing the company that made the product.
Surely the alcohol is a normal ingredient rather than a contaminant?
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Message 102904 - Posted: 9 Feb 2021, 16:15:54 UTC - in response to Message 102900.  

Surely the alcohol is a normal ingredient rather than a contaminant?

AFAIK ethyl (grain) alcohol is what's supposed to be used in hand sanitizers, not methanol alcohol which is commonly used in automotive antifreeze, etc.

Guessing she was trying to get high or drunk on the "alcohol" content.
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Message 102907 - Posted: 9 Feb 2021, 17:18:55 UTC - in response to Message 102904.  
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While it is the norm for these hand sanitising gels and solutions to use ethanol I don't believe there is an actual requirement that their alcohol content is ONLY ethanol. Methanol, and propanol are both more toxic than ethanol to various species of bugs (and life in general).

(btw methanol is not a very good material to use in automotive anti-freeze as it has quite a low boiling point - more commonly used are various glycols and other compounds which both lower the melting point and elevate the boiling point of the coolant)
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Message 102948 - Posted: 10 Feb 2021, 4:46:04 UTC - in response to Message 102913.  

This is typical of Americans, nothing is ever their own fault.
Like the past president.
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Message 102964 - Posted: 10 Feb 2021, 19:54:55 UTC - in response to Message 102960.  

This is typical of Americans, nothing is ever their own fault.
Like the past president.
That might be amusing if Trump had done anything wrong.


I struggle to think of much he has done that isn't wrong.
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Message 102968 - Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 0:29:20 UTC - in response to Message 102964.  

This is typical of Americans, nothing is ever their own fault.
Like the past president.
That might be amusing if Trump had done anything wrong.
I struggle to think of much he has done that isn't wrong.
All the way back to a zygote!
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Message 102969 - Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 5:47:16 UTC

Peter Hucker is having a one week break.

This should also give others here time to remember about staying on tropic, and not wandering into a version of The Neverending Story.
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Message 102970 - Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 7:55:31 UTC

Let me warn everyone that in the future flame baiting will get you the same vacation time as the person taking the bait. In other words, use the filter option on the forums or mentally ignore the other party, but we won't allow more flame fests as that have happened here.
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