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Message 100990 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 5:53:43 UTC

Sounds like it is time to shut the rigs off.
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Message 100991 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 6:28:52 UTC - in response to Message 100990.  

Sounds like it is time to shut the rigs off.
I don't think we should punish the projects' science for David's loss of direction. But maybe we could ask the projects for their collective opinion?
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Message 100992 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 8:39:32 UTC - in response to Message 100990.  

My initial reaction was also to take flight, but it's not BOINC that's at fault here. BOINC will still be needed even when the whole outside is Science United. On its own Science United is nothing, it requires BOINC as well. So that won't change.

And I don't think he'll be able to force SU on everyone, that it's the only available option to do science for the projects. The other AM maintainers would scream bloody murder, and rightly so.
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Message 100993 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 9:48:28 UTC

It looks to be an attempt to increase the SU population of volunteers due to the apparent lack of take-up - make it hard to find the "real" BOINC on the download page and hope everyone will be suckered into SU.
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Message 100994 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 9:58:05 UTC - in response to Message 100993.  

It looks to be an attempt to increase the SU population of volunteers due to the apparent lack of take-up - make it hard to find the "real" BOINC on the download page and hope everyone will be suckered into SU.

I shall do my bit by posting the, "real" download page in various places then.

I wonder if this topic needs its own thread?
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Message 100995 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 11:04:38 UTC - in response to Message 100994.  

I wonder if this topic needs its own thread?

There is one in the News forum... ;-)
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Message 100996 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 11:57:32 UTC - in response to Message 100994.  

They really have made it difficult to find the downloads page if you don't know where it is. I can't see a way to navigate to it through links on the home page.
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Message 100998 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 13:01:59 UTC - in response to Message 100996.  

There's that large Science United button and then underneath that is a small link stating "Or download BOINC and choose specific projects." with a link under download BOINC. I see the front page has changed again as last night the Science United button was much larger and the Start Computing section was for me on the left. I find it a wonder the download BOINC line isn't hyper small.
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Message 100999 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 13:09:43 UTC - in response to Message 100998.  

That download BOINC button at least from my Linux computer goes to 7.4 which seems a bit old. Not sure what happens under Windows.
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Message 101000 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 13:19:25 UTC - in response to Message 100999.  
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But that's correct because the release manager of BOINC doesn't package new BOINC versions anymore, that's done by the package maintainers of the various distros and other builders. So when you look in https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php, you'll see that the recommended version for Linux is 7.4.22 and the beta version 7.16.6
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Message 101002 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 14:47:15 UTC - in response to Message 101000.  

Still smacks of Big Brother knows best syndrome, not going to the page where you have a choice.
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Message 101003 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 14:48:38 UTC
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Why would I hand over control over what particular project I want to crunch for, to something like Science United?
The the day I crunch via Science United, is the day it's time to carry me out feet first.
(which may not be that far away anyhow :-) )
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Message 101004 - Posted: 8 Oct 2020, 15:05:35 UTC - in response to Message 101003.  

It's way more comfortable to go into the ambulance head first, less chance to travel sickness. 😂
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Message 101021 - Posted: 9 Oct 2020, 7:23:24 UTC

Welcome to the magic roundabout.
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Message 101022 - Posted: 9 Oct 2020, 9:43:11 UTC - in response to Message 101004.  

True, but I knew who would always put potential PV patients in feet first as there would then be a smaller area to be cleaned out when the inevitable happened....
(They also hang a large open bag under the head end.....)
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Message 101110 - Posted: 15 Oct 2020, 15:45:58 UTC

NL went into a new lockdown yesterday, not a total one but still more restrictions all over the place. With the climbing numbers of infections it's not weird, if this continues this way we'll have 10,000 a day this weekend. And then a complete lockdown next week.

Now, meanwhiles the Gov released the CoronaMelder app, an app that will warn you when you've been within reach of a person infected with corona.

But... it won't do this automatically. The app can't detect if you have corona. When you have symptoms, you have to have a test (3-5 days of seclusion while you wait for your test date and time, and afterwards for the outcome), and when you've tested positive you have the choice if you want to broadcast that fact to others. The app on your phone contacts the central server multiple times a day and sends random numbered values that are stored there. When someone else who chose to tell the world he was infected has his app broadcast that fact, his random numbers are compared to those on the server. If your phone has been in the neighborhood of the other's phone for a certain time and distance, you will get a warning from the app. And then you get advice on what to do. No obligation.

The app works with Bluetooth, sapping your phone. It'll constantly broadcast its presence to other phones and devices.
I'm not interested in it, luckily it's not adamant yet to have it on your phone. Some 2 million people can't even install it as it uses technology too new for their hardware or OS. Backward compatibility? Nah.
The app also doesn't work with foreign apps. If you do manage to go abroad, you have to install the local version. Well done, Europe!

And now I read that our telecom providers are forced to share telecom data, mobile location data, with the RIVM (National Institute for Public Health and the Environment) because then they can check per hour which phone is where, for how long, where they came from, and where they're going. Mass surveillance. NL is getting creepy. Don't come here.
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Message 101111 - Posted: 15 Oct 2020, 16:08:45 UTC - in response to Message 101110.  

In the UK, with the second iteration of our app (the first didn't work), apparently you get an alert from Android that you've been close to an infected person, followed by a second alert from the app to say you weren't close enough for long enough to catch anything, and to ignore the first alert. I haven't installed it either.
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Message 101112 - Posted: 15 Oct 2020, 16:42:14 UTC

Glory: Star Trek Discovery season 3 started.
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Message 101213 - Posted: 22 Oct 2020, 11:16:34 UTC

Grumble:
sudo do-release-upgrade
Checking for a new Ubuntu release
No new release found.

xubuntu.org states Groovy has been released. Based on previous occasions with xubuntu I may need need to wait another day or two.
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Message 101228 - Posted: 23 Oct 2020, 10:09:10 UTC - in response to Message 101213.  
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Grumble:
sudo do-release-upgrade
Checking for a new Ubuntu release
No new release found.

xubuntu.org states Groovy has been released. Based on previous occasions with xubuntu I may need need to wait another day or two.


Glory: Groovy now running and (touch wood) so far nothing seems broken anything while upgrading.

Edit:Posted link to Simon & Garfunkel, "Feeling Groovy" on Facebook and despite five comments on post, not one has any clue as to why I posted it!
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