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Message 102299 - Posted: 21 Dec 2020, 21:58:21 UTC - in response to Message 102294.  

Uhm Brussels doesn't tell us which vaccines to use, the individual countries can decide that by themselves. Most countries will start vaccinations before the end of the year, only we in the Netherlands must wait until January. But even then, it'll be August before gross of the people are allowed to get it. So we wait anyway

All the searches I have made say the EU in Brussels has ordered all the vaccines for use within the EU and is also the only authority to say which are safe and can be used.
Apparently the EU has ordered vaccines in bulk at about two euros per shot and the Americans are not happy they are reported to be paying $30 and more for the same vaccine.
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Message 102300 - Posted: 21 Dec 2020, 23:04:07 UTC - in response to Message 102298.  

In the big Coles I went to yesterday, all of the toilet paper had disappeared again.

Sydney still hasn't been locked down, so there's hope.


I knew there was going to be some announcement by Johnson on Friday morning where at the organic box scheme where I earn some pin money three times a week, sales of loo paper had gone up by a lot.
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Message 102303 - Posted: 22 Dec 2020, 8:09:38 UTC

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Message 102307 - Posted: 22 Dec 2020, 19:37:55 UTC

So, there is a reason the UK spotted this latest Covid-19 variant.
Covid: New variant found ‘due to hard work of UK scientists’
A new variant of the virus causing Covid-19, first spotted in Kent, could already be circulating - or have originated from - outside the UK.

But it was spotted here because of the strength of the UK's surveillance system, scientists have said.

The Covid-19 Genomics Consortium (Cog-UK) has tracked the genetic history of more than 150,000 samples of Sars-Cov-2 virus.

That equates to about half the world's genetic sequencing of coronavirus.

And so much for our historical enemies actions, he could have found it if it had bit on the b__, he hasn't set up enough labs.
For example, Public Health Wales sequenced about 4,000 genomes in the past week, more than the whole of France since the beginning of the pandemic.

This point was emphasised by Prof Ravi Gupta at the University of Cambridge, who pointed out it was "no coincidence" that an "interesting" multiple mutation had also been seen in South Africa, another country which does a lot of genomic sequencing.

Other European countries which were very quick to pick up notable mutations, Denmark and the Netherlands, also have strong surveillance systems.
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Message 102312 - Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 12:08:23 UTC

Grumbles: of the 49 mourning letters I sent out last Thursday only those local and one in another town in our province were delivered. The rest? Poof. Gone. So when we found out about that on Sunday we've been sending out these things by email so everyone still got theirs in time for the funeral yesterday (Tuesday). PostNL did pick up on my complaint and have looked for an answer. Thus far nothing found. So they did the only other thing they could, reimburse us for the lost letters and stamps (glory).

Grumble: mom's bank. I've never been treated so rudely as I have just been in the local branch of ABN AMRO. Now I had mom's death certificate, I wanted to let the bank know of her passing so they could temporarily stop the account and anything going off. Well, I shouldn't have come to the local branch without making an appointment first. They were just with two people and very, very busy (neither was doing anything when I got in and waited for several minutes). No, "sorry" but I should've made an appointment, or called them or have done this via internet banking. Sorry, where's the empathy, the warmth, the human touch here?
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Message 102334 - Posted: 25 Dec 2020, 14:44:15 UTC

Congrats Brits with the Brexit Deal. Now everything will be better. ;-)
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Message 102336 - Posted: 25 Dec 2020, 20:55:43 UTC - in response to Message 102334.  

Congrats Brits with the Brexit Deal. Now everything will be better. ;-)


Better than no deal but IMHO nowhere near as good as what we had, bu then I live in an area that had I think the second highest remain vote in the country so my humble opinion is not a reliable picture of the country.
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Message 102365 - Posted: 30 Dec 2020, 7:41:19 UTC

The Oxford vaccine has been approved.
And it only needs ordinary fridge temps.

Covid-19: Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine approved for use in UK
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Message 102415 - Posted: 4 Jan 2021, 21:36:24 UTC

England going into six week lockdown. Yet again our esteemed prime minister follows the science at a considerable distance.
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Message 102586 - Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 18:03:43 UTC - in response to Message 102415.  

And now all travellers to UK from anywhere in the world must have a -veCovid test up to 72 hours before arrival and quarantine for 10 days.
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Message 102587 - Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 18:12:50 UTC - in response to Message 102586.  
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You need that for here as well, but it's hardly being enforced at customs on Schiphol. The requirement for quarantine is also not checked up on. So you can just get through customs, of course after leaving your ham sandwiches, without further ado. Have fun infecting everyone here.

Gotta wonder, is it still quarantine if it's only 10 days? Isn't that diecitine? (The word quarantine comes from quarantena, meaning "forty days", used in 14th–15th-century Venetian. It followed the trentino, or thirty-day isolation period, first imposed in 1347 in the Republic of Ragusa, Dalmatia)
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Message 102617 - Posted: 19 Jan 2021, 2:42:44 UTC

What will they try next to keep workers 6 feet (approx 2 Meters) apart?
High Decibel 'Dog Collars' Deployed on French Factory Workers to Enforce Social Distancing
Employees at the French manufacturing facility of Essity, a Swedish company that makes hygiene and health products, have been told to wear a device worn around the neck that emits a high decibel sound if employees are too close to each other

... The company said the devices are only being tested in France, as they are in the Netherlands, but are already used in Britain.
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Message 102618 - Posted: 19 Jan 2021, 7:17:08 UTC - in response to Message 102617.  

A friend's son works in a place where they have sashes that start flashing if people get too close. I guess the next stage will be electric shocks like the collars they have for cattle to keep them in a defined GPS area instead of using an electric fence.
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Message 102619 - Posted: 19 Jan 2021, 10:08:16 UTC
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Either of them is an upstage to the neck band in Wedlock... With explosives. 😈

Meanwhile here it'll be decided if we're going for social exclusion (a total ban on having visitors) or a curfew from 8pm till 4am from Thursday until the end of days.
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Message 102623 - Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 8:31:33 UTC

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Message 102625 - Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 14:42:14 UTC

We're getting our curfew. Most of the population is against. Most political parties are against. But our demissionary cabinet pushes it through anyway. It'll start Friday or Saturday or Sunday (here, they can't even give a definitive start day) until at least the 9th of February, and will last from 8:30pm to 04:30am. It's to stop the English variant of the virus, which thus far hasn't been stopped yet by any of the earlier measures. And by the 9th of February there will be 14 other variants so they can force the curfew onto us for the rest of the year.

Passenger travel from South-Africa, South America and the United Kingdom is no longer allowed. You can land in Belgium or Germany and then travel here by train or car, no problem as the rest of our borders are open to everyone.
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Message 102626 - Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 14:51:37 UTC

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I would have thought that if our variant had a watch, I would have heard about it over here by now.
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Message 102627 - Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 15:04:57 UTC - in response to Message 102626.  

it doesn't? Then how does it know that it cannot infect a person 0-12 years old, but can infect them the moment they turn 13?
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Message 102634 - Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 23:06:15 UTC

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The UK's BrewDog pubs want to offer you a vaccine - and a commemorative beer

Want a pint with your vaccine? BrewDog, a Scottish craft beer brewer and pub chain, is offering its closed outlets across the United Kingdom to the government to use as COVID-19 vaccination centres, and those vaccinated could walk away with a ‘special commemorative beer’. James Watt, BrewDog’s CEO and co-founder, put a call out on social media asking for followers to help name the beer.
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Message 102638 - Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 15:37:59 UTC - in response to Message 102634.  

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The UK's BrewDog pubs want to offer you a vaccine - and a commemorative beer

Want a pint with your vaccine? BrewDog, a Scottish craft beer brewer and pub chain, is offering its closed outlets across the United Kingdom to the government to use as COVID-19 vaccination centres, and those vaccinated could walk away with a ‘special commemorative beer’. James Watt, BrewDog’s CEO and co-founder, put a call out on social media asking for followers to help name the beer.



Corona? Oh wait...
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