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![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 1873 ![]() |
I'm beginning to think the Sci-Fi documentaries on Sony Movies were wrong. I actually watched one the other day where a hole in the ozone layer caused really cold air to appear and instantly freeze people solid.Sounds like Artic Blast with Bruce Davison & Michael Shanks, a 2010 movie rather than a documentary. |
![]() Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 14938 ![]() |
Bye bye SN11. Total failure. |
![]() Send message Joined: 30 Mar 20 Posts: 130 ![]() |
Yup, that didn't go well at all..... Another SN failure, ending with a Kaboom. |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 1316 ![]() |
Since humans are composed primarily of water, and so is lake Utah, one cannot freeze the other. If the lake was cold enough to do that, it would have been solid ice so he couldn't have "fallen into it".Speaking about frozen people.Good news: New research shows that we won't be killed by this giant asteroid for another 100 years.I'm beginning to think the Sci-Fi documentaries on Sony Movies were wrong. I actually watched one the other day where a hole in the ozone layer caused really cold air to appear and instantly freeze people solid. |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 1316 ![]() |
Correct. I wrongly assumed something with Michael Shanks in it would have more of an element of truth, since he was a major character in Stargate.I'm beginning to think the Sci-Fi documentaries on Sony Movies were wrong. I actually watched one the other day where a hole in the ozone layer caused really cold air to appear and instantly freeze people solid.Sounds like Artic Blast with Bruce Davison & Michael Shanks, a 2010 movie rather than a documentary. I know it's a movie, didn't you realise I was joking when I said "Sci-Fi documentaries on Sony Movies"? No such thing as a Sci-Fi documentary. And Sony Movies shows.... Movies! If you've already watched that, be worried that you're more like me than you want to be. If you googled it, you're a bloody cheat. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Feb 08 Posts: 2327 ![]() |
Since humans are composed primarily of water, and so is lake Utah, one cannot freeze the other. If the lake was cold enough to do that, it would have been solid ice so he couldn't have "fallen into it". Where logic meets physics. Try the First Law. Also observe the freezing point changes with dissolved salts. Include the temperature of air and the dew point. Things are never as simple as you wish. |
![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 1873 ![]() |
If you've already watched that, be worried that you're more like me than you want to be.Nope. If you googled it, you're a bloody cheat.Nope Computer/Films(J)/Artic Blast (2010). Along with several thousands more of all genres. As for the film itself, not too bad, but in my opinion, could've got a better actress to play his daughter. |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 1316 ![]() |
I don't have to look anything up to know that something at 0C cannot cool something at 37C down to 0C for a very long time, and it will never cool it to below 0C unless there's evaporation. So, no instant freezing.Since humans are composed primarily of water, and so is lake Utah, one cannot freeze the other. If the lake was cold enough to do that, it would have been solid ice so he couldn't have "fallen into it". |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 1316 ![]() |
If you've already watched that, be worried that you're more like me than you want to be.Nope.If you googled it, you're a bloody cheat.Nope You haven't watched it, but you have it on your computer? In that case you are like me and are running a pirate film server. As for the film itself, the inaccuracies annoyed me too much. |
![]() Send message Joined: 28 Jun 10 Posts: 1683 ![]() |
I don't have to look anything up to know that something at 0C cannot cool something at 37C down to 0C for a very long time, and it will never cool it to below 0C unless there's evaporation. So, no instant freezing. However water with dissolved salts in it can be liquid below 0C and so freeze something else. |
Send message Joined: 25 May 09 Posts: 1050 ![]() |
Oh dear, you are so, so so lacking in the basics of how refrigeration works. I could freeze you into a solid block of ice using water at 4C in an airflow of about 10m/s. Given enough water, or a higher air speed it might take a minute or so. (This is how some meat chilling systems work) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Feb 08 Posts: 2327 ![]() |
Obviously never made ice cream or seen why roads are salted. |
![]() Send message Joined: 12 Mar 20 Posts: 17 |
This is starting to become a bit of a rant. Perhaps it's time to end it. |
Send message Joined: 18 Oct 14 Posts: 1440 ![]() |
Oh dear, you are so, so so lacking in the basics of how refrigeration works. I could freeze you into a solid block of ice using water at 4C in an airflow of about 10m/s. Given enough water, or a higher air speed it might take a minute or so. (This is how some meat chilling systems work) This just comtinues a long established trend. |
![]() Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 14938 ![]() |
I was watching a video about "The Secret of Synchronization" last night and in it they show how ice forms. Watch it from https://youtu.be/t-_VPRCtiUg?t=549, although watching the whole thing is really interesting. As are all videos of Veritasium. Anyway, ice forms not gradually, but goes from water, water, water changing to ice almost instantly. |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 1316 ![]() |
This is starting to become a bit of a rant.This is the thread for rants. The thread you move things to when you don't like them elsewhere, now you don't like them here. There's no pleasing some people. |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 1316 ![]() |
Oh dear, you are so, so so lacking in the basics of how refrigeration works. I could freeze you into a solid block of ice using water at 4C in an airflow of about 10m/s. Given enough water, or a higher air speed it might take a minute or so. (This is how some meat chilling systems work)What air is flowing inside a lake? Salt lake is it? And seawater actually freezes at about -2.5C, not low enough to freeze a person. Lewis Pugh has swum in it.I don't have to look anything up to know that something at 0C cannot cool something at 37C down to 0C for a very long time, and it will never cool it to below 0C unless there's evaporation. So, no instant freezing. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Feb 08 Posts: 2327 ![]() |
What air is flowing inside a lake?People and ice float. Then again if he hit play he might have more information ... |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 1316 ![]() |
So 95% of him was in 0C water. That won't freeze him. 5% of him (not a lot) is damp and exposed to very cold air, too cold to cause evaporation. Where exactly is all that body heat moving to?What air is flowing inside a lake?People and ice float. Then again if he hit play he might have more information ... |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Feb 08 Posts: 2327 ![]() |
Then again if hit play he might have more information.So 95% of him was in 0C water. That won't freeze him. 5% of him (not a lot) is damp and exposed to very cold air, too cold to cause evaporation. Where exactly is all that body heat moving to?What air is flowing inside a lake?People and ice float. Then again if he hit play he might have more information ... |
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