Rosetta@home studies coronavirus

Message boards : News : Rosetta@home studies coronavirus
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

AuthorMessage
Profile David Anderson
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 10 Sep 05
Posts: 676
Message 96483 - Posted: 6 Mar 2020, 22:37:15 UTC

Rosetta@home, from the University of Washington, is using BOINC to model important coronavirus proteins.
ID: 96483 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Ray Lim

Send message
Joined: 2 Jan 20
Posts: 3
Message 96542 - Posted: 9 Mar 2020, 3:42:48 UTC - in response to Message 96483.  

Awesome!
ID: 96542 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
kreposuc

Send message
Joined: 22 Mar 20
Posts: 1
France
Message 96979 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 8:20:25 UTC - in response to Message 96483.  
Last modified: 22 Mar 2020, 8:32:45 UTC

Hi, I tried folding@home too yesterday and can't seem to start it again this morning. Do you know o the differences between these two projects ? They seem to pursue the same goal (protein folding) through the same sort of means : distributed computing. Why is folding@home not included in BOINC ? It would be more practical, as BOINC has more options and seems more effective. Thanks. [self-edit : Ok I see this question has been brought up recetly on the forum; sorry I am new here, started only yesterday ! you can delete my post if you like].
ID: 96979 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
anndel

Send message
Joined: 24 Mar 20
Posts: 1
United States
Message 97020 - Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 9:06:20 UTC - in response to Message 96979.  

Same here, there's been several days where I had no work units. A lot of entities are crunching for F@H which the research staff are grad students or volunteers and can't keep up with the demand for WUs. I deleted F@H and went back to BOINC, crunching only for Rosetta@home. I used to crunch for World Community Grid for 10 years but stopped as they're not supporting COVID-19 projects at this time.
ID: 97020 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Jord
Volunteer tester
Help desk expert
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Aug 05
Posts: 14232
Netherlands
Message 97023 - Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 11:23:32 UTC - in response to Message 97020.  

As far as I understood is that the sudden influx of computers, going from 30K sustained to 400-500K almost overnight, has swamped FAH's network connection. Their servers can cope, they just don't have the bandwidth to send out the work and receive the results back in a fashionable manner.
ID: 97023 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Cliff Harding
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Jun 14
Posts: 18
United States
Message 97025 - Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 12:36:01 UTC - in response to Message 96979.  

I tried folding@home when the news first came out about them and corvid-19, I gave up after it crashed my system 3 times in as many days crunching just GPU tasks even at the min. settings. Waked up in the morning and have to cycle the machine. NOT GOOD. I would have tried Rosetta@home, but it seems that it doesn't use GPUs. Does anyone know who within the BOINC world is running these types of studies that have GPUs as an option for processing?
ID: 97025 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Marky Boy

Send message
Joined: 31 Dec 17
Posts: 5
United Kingdom
Message 97045 - Posted: 25 Mar 2020, 10:35:41 UTC

I've suspended 3 out of 4 Projects and switched all 8 cores to Rosetta to help with the fight, number crunching fine.
ID: 97045 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Jim1348

Send message
Joined: 8 Nov 10
Posts: 250
United States
Message 97047 - Posted: 25 Mar 2020, 12:53:35 UTC

If you have a recent Nvidia card, you can run GPUGrid.
They will be getting some Covid-19 work units at some point.

But check the requirements.
http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=5002
ID: 97047 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
tgerzen

Send message
Joined: 26 Mar 20
Posts: 1
United States
Message 97086 - Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 19:23:35 UTC

Does anyone have any familiarity with running something like this from a virtual machine? I'm looking at setting up a VM and watching it to see how it performs.
ID: 97086 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile WeAreHugh

Send message
Joined: 19 Apr 20
Posts: 2
United States
Message 97868 - Posted: 19 Apr 2020, 21:38:36 UTC - in response to Message 97086.  
Last modified: 19 Apr 2020, 21:40:43 UTC

BOINC runs just fine on a VM, with or without Xwindows running (in the case of *nix). However, if you are using a VM from a VPS provider (Amazon, Linode, etc.), you will almost certainly be in violation of their terms of service, so please use BOINC only on a VM running on hardware you own.

There is not a huge benefit in running BOINC on a VM, because BOINC provides all the controls over system and resource usage that you might want to control by running it in a VM. Compared to not running in a VM, the VM will provide some overhead that isn't necessary.

My comments are based on having tried running BOINC on a server running CentOS configured with OpenVZ virtualization. In the end, I wound up running BOINC on the host OS over bare metal.
ID: 97868 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Sea Yellow 黄海

Send message
Joined: 21 Apr 20
Posts: 7
China
Message 97936 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 15:01:40 UTC - in response to Message 96483.  

I love this project but it's a pity it takes no GPU share. It runs on my Windows and Android producing a lot of heat making me sweaty.
ID: 97936 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
MissingLink

Send message
Joined: 20 Apr 18
Posts: 7
United States
Message 98050 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020, 18:21:33 UTC - in response to Message 97936.  

As far as I've been crunching for Rosetta@Home, they are not known for GPU -- only CPU. Same with World Community Grid (WCG). Every project can not be for everybody. There are many GPU projects you can support: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/GPU_computing -- I like support CPU only projects because it allows anyone with a CPU to contribute to science tasks without worrying about people with higher end GPUs hogging up work units or making your work units seem less significant. Everyone is on on the same common ground with CPU only tasks.
ID: 98050 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Ant Evans

Send message
Joined: 2 Mar 06
Posts: 11
Germany
Message 98326 - Posted: 4 May 2020, 15:53:10 UTC - in response to Message 97868.  

I'm running Rosetta. It likes new hardware. It doesn't like old hardware.

The BOINC project doesn't necessarily agree that you have to roll your own.
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/CloudServer

I've run BOINC in three clouds but I would recommend it mainly as a learning experience.

The BOINC client provides control best described as coarse. Modern OSs make up for most of that.
ID: 98326 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
ProDigit

Send message
Joined: 8 Nov 19
Posts: 549
United States
Message 99289 - Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 17:25:41 UTC

Rosetta and WCG (IBM) both do Covid19 batches.
Rosetta is one of the only ones (next to Universe@home) to run on Android 10 devices.
My Cellphone has been running non stop for almost a year, and both my older and newer phone now have blown up batteries.
I won't regret the usage of my phone though!
Newer phone hardware may be very interesting in the near future for Boinc projects!

FAH also doesn't give you COVID19 jobs. Only when they're available.
If they're not, you'll be getting other jobs.
ID: 99289 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Jord
Volunteer tester
Help desk expert
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Aug 05
Posts: 14232
Netherlands
Message 99291 - Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 18:21:59 UTC - in response to Message 99289.  

My Cellphone has been running non stop for almost a year, and both my older and newer phone now have blown up batteries.
There's a very simple solution for this and it's called a fan. My whole farm, 4 Android devices running Android 6 to 9, lie on top of a cabinet in my living room, next to a 120mm fan that blows cool air over them. The fan spins at 5V (half speed), which is enough to cool all the devices down and make sure the battery doesn't pop. The battery will only bulge and pop when it's getting too hot all the time. So active cool your devices and they'll survive.
ID: 99291 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Jord
Volunteer tester
Help desk expert
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Aug 05
Posts: 14232
Netherlands
Message 99294 - Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 23:21:53 UTC - in response to Message 99291.  

next to a 120mm fan that blows cool air over them.
It's a 230mm fan. See https://photos.app.goo.gl/wL8t7anUf7tqneXF6 for my setup.
ID: 99294 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Pierre A Renaud FCD @ team Car...
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 19 Jan 18
Posts: 65
Canada
Message 99525 - Posted: 28 Jun 2020, 7:25:49 UTC

@RosettaAtHome · Jun 25, 2020 · We have some BIG NEWS: Researchers @UWproteindesign have succeeded in creating antiviral proteins that neutralize the new coronavirus in the lab. (These experimental drugs are being optimized for animal trials now)[/quote] https://twitter.com/RosettaAtHome/status/1276324129390555136
ID: 99525 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
JBJNR

Send message
Joined: 14 Jul 20
Posts: 1
Message 99943 - Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 15:04:13 UTC - in response to Message 99289.  

I'm running an Intel i9 8-core, 16 CPU iMac with 40 GB of RAM and a decent GPU (AMD Radeon Pro Vega 48 with 8 GB HBM2 VRAM). Folding@Home only uses the CPUS. Any way for me to deploy my GPU as well, via a different service?
ID: 99943 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Falconet

Send message
Joined: 3 Oct 10
Posts: 28
Portugal
Message 99952 - Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 21:00:19 UTC - in response to Message 99943.  

I'm running an Intel i9 8-core, 16 CPU iMac with 40 GB of RAM and a decent GPU (AMD Radeon Pro Vega 48 with 8 GB HBM2 VRAM). Folding@Home only uses the CPUS. Any way for me to deploy my GPU as well, via a different service?


OPN1 (COVID-19) at WCG will have a GPU version. Folding@home should work with your GPU, I think.
ID: 99952 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote

Message boards : News : Rosetta@home studies coronavirus

Copyright © 2020 University of California. Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation.