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Message 96265 - Posted: 2 Mar 2020, 11:02:50 UTC
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David Anderson wrote:
On March 31, the volunteer computing part of SETI@home will stop distributing work and will go into hibernation.

We're doing this for two reasons:

1) Scientifically, we're at the point of diminishing returns; basically, we've analyzed all the data we need for now.

2) It's a lot of work for us to manage the distributed processing of data. We need to focus on completing the back-end analysis of the results we already have, and writing this up in a scientific journal paper.

However, SETI@home is not disappearing. The web site and the message boards will continue to operate. We hope that other UC Berkeley astronomers will find uses for the huge computing capabilities of SETI@home for SETI or related areas like cosmology and pulsar research. If this happens, SETI@home will start distributing work again. We'll keep you posted about this.

If you're currently running SETI@home on your computer, we encourage you to attach to other BOINC-based projects as well. Or use Science United and sign up to do astronomy. You can stay attached to SETI@home, of course, but you won't get any jobs until we find new applications.

We're extremely grateful to all of our volunteers for supporting us in many ways during the past 20 years. Without you there would be no SETI@home. We're excited to finish up our original science project, and we look forward to what comes next.
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Message 96300 - Posted: 3 Mar 2020, 1:20:06 UTC - in response to Message 96265.  

Great news. They have wasted enough electrical energy on an impossible goal, as I have posted in their forum a few times.
But they have good signal processing capability, if some astronomers can figure out how to make use of it.
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Message 96714 - Posted: 12 Mar 2020, 20:34:10 UTC

When Seti@Home goes away at the end of the month, can we continue to use it as a screen saver?
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Message 96732 - Posted: 13 Mar 2020, 8:24:11 UTC - in response to Message 96714.  

When Seti@Home goes away at the end of the month, can we continue to use it as a screen saver?


As the screensaver is a visual representation of the work being processed, I am afraid not. With no work the screensaver will not start.
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Message 96757 - Posted: 14 Mar 2020, 0:26:57 UTC - in response to Message 96732.  

When Seti@Home goes away at the end of the month, can we continue to use it as a screen saver?


As the screensaver is a visual representation of the work being processed, I am afraid not. With no work the screensaver will not start.

Amplifying, BOINC is the screen saver, and the O/S will launch it. Without work it will just display the BOINC logo.

There are other projects you can run under BOINC and some have screen savers.
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Message 96983 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 13:58:02 UTC

Given SETI@Home will be phased out, I have a suggestion.

Why not take advantage of the existing distributed processing power and unite efforts with the Folding@Home project to fight CoronaVirus?

I am making an assumption, that it is not too much difficult to couple things together, but I know nothing about the subject.
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Message 96984 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 14:10:37 UTC - in response to Message 96983.  

Please read https://boinc.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=13513
Also keep in mind that everyone in California is at this moment in "Shelter-in-place" modus, meaning no one can leave their homes, they're essentially locked down.
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Message 96994 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 1:53:58 UTC - in response to Message 96300.  

Great news. They have wasted enough electrical energy on an impossible goal, as I have posted in their forum a few times.
But they have good signal processing capability, if some astronomers can figure out how to make use of it.

SETI has done more than looking for aliens.
A lot of their data helped other astronomy research.
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Message 98983 - Posted: 1 Jun 2020, 11:02:08 UTC - in response to Message 96994.  
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Great news. They have wasted enough electrical energy on an impossible goal, as I have posted in their forum a few times.
But they have good signal processing capability, if some astronomers can figure out how to make use of it.

SETI has done more than looking for aliens.
A lot of their data helped other astronomy research.

I doubt it. I have looked for that on their forum for years, and even asked about it, with no response.

But, they did have a great value. They developed BOINC, and introduced a whole army of people to distributed computing. That capability can now be used for a wide variety of purposes, including the current virus. I think Dave Anderson pulled the plug at just the right time. It was not a religion with him, just a science and technology, which is its proper place.
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Message 98990 - Posted: 1 Jun 2020, 13:53:52 UTC - in response to Message 98983.  

Great news. They have wasted enough electrical energy on an impossible goal, as I have posted in their forum a few times.
But they have good signal processing capability, if some astronomers can figure out how to make use of it.

SETI has done more than looking for aliens.
A lot of their data helped other astronomy research.

I doubt it. I have looked for that on their forum for years, and even asked about it, with no response.
Did you look in the scientific literature?
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Message 98992 - Posted: 1 Jun 2020, 14:27:52 UTC - in response to Message 98990.  

Did you look in the scientific literature?

I think you are trying to imply that there is something there. Go ahead and cite it. We will all be interested, I am sure.
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Message 99055 - Posted: 3 Jun 2020, 13:55:20 UTC - in response to Message 98992.  

Did you look in the scientific literature?

I think you are trying to imply that there is something there. Go ahead and cite it. We will all be interested, I am sure.

Do your own search. Google will search scholarly publications if you read the manual. Try by author and use the project scientists names.
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Message 99063 - Posted: 3 Jun 2020, 15:58:56 UTC - in response to Message 99055.  
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I thought you were trying to show they had achieved scientific results.
I have reached my conclusions, as stated before.

Otherwise, I am not interested in doing your research, any more than continuing a futile attempt to look for aliens. That was the whole point.

But at a time when you should be glad that the resources devoted to SETI are now freed up for other uses, you are beating a dead horse. Do it yourself.
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Message 99080 - Posted: 4 Jun 2020, 4:37:43 UTC - in response to Message 99063.  

I thought you were trying to show they had achieved scientific results.

They have. Do the search and read the many papers on various results. Or in your case is "science" limited to finding ET?
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Message 99082 - Posted: 4 Jun 2020, 6:41:40 UTC - in response to Message 99080.  

Now, I am with Jim on this. He asked on the forums, didn't get an answer. You then dangle a worm in front of him, but when asked to give evidence you tell him to do a search? Come on. You're the one claiming to have the knowledge, so then spill that by giving a link.

Else for any next question you have for these forums anyone can legitimately call you out to do a search yourself.

So stop baiting. Either fess up or shut up.
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Message 99091 - Posted: 4 Jun 2020, 17:09:34 UTC

https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=new_articles&hl=en&imq=Eric+Korpela#

https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=new_articles&hl=en&imq=David+P.+Anderson#

https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=new_articles&hl=en&imq=Dan+Werthimer#

https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=new_articles&hl=en&imq=Jeff+Cobb#

https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=new_articles&hl=en&imq=Matt+Lebofsky#

https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=new_articles&hl=en&imq=Andrew+Siemion#

Yes, I told him to search. There are in the hundreds of published papers for him to read. I however get the feeling, from his dismissive attitude, his only idea of a result is the detection of ET.
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Message 99598 - Posted: 3 Jul 2020, 1:51:07 UTC - in response to Message 96265.  

VERY annoyed that SETI 'pulled the plug' as I had been running SETI via BOINC for decades. Has SETI got a legit reason or did they have too much data????

Is there any chance of SETI doming 'home' or have they given up
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Message 99603 - Posted: 3 Jul 2020, 7:08:08 UTC - in response to Message 99598.  
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Read the very first post in this thread as that gives the answer and a link to the official post on SETI from SETI
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