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Message 93160 - Posted: 10 Oct 2019, 15:11:14 UTC
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Version 7.16.3 updated from the Google Play store today.

This thread for comments, bug reports, questions, etc.
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Message 93161 - Posted: 10 Oct 2019, 16:23:52 UTC - in response to Message 93160.  

The event log looks nicer. This is from an LG Tribute Dynasty (SP200) that isn't running anything due to rare WiFi connection:

Client Messages

Oct 10, 2019 11:18:27 AM||
   3804 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

Oct 10, 2019 11:18:27 AM||
   1398 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU

Oct 10, 2019 11:18:27 AM||
   Number of CPUs: 4

Oct 10, 2019 11:18:27 AM||
Benchmark results:

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:58 AM||
Resuming network activity

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Suspending network activity - not connected to WiFi network

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Running CPU benchmarks

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Checking presence of 0 project files

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Setting up GUI RPC socket

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM|WUProp@Home|
URL https://wuprop.boinc-af.org/; Computer ID 153823; resource share 100

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Checking active tasks

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Setting up project and slot directories

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
   (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
   don't use GPU while active

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
   don't compute while active

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
   max CPUs used: 4

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
   max disk usage: 5.20 GB

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
   max memory usage when idle: 1867.13 MB

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
   max memory usage when active: 933.57 MB

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Preferences:

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Reading preferences override file

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Config: report completed tasks immediately

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Local time is UTC -5 hours

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Disk: 9.19 GB total, 5.69 GB free

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Memory: 1.82 GB physical, 930.78 MB virtual

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
OS: Android: 3.18.35

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Processor features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt vfpd32 lpae evtstrm aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Using 4 CPUs

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Processor: 8 ARM ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) [Impl 0x41 Arch 7 Variant 0x0 Part 0xd03 Rev 2]

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Host name: android_203b6a60

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Version change (7.14.1 -> 7.16.3)

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
OpenCL: Mali-T860 0: Mali-T860 (driver version 1.2, device version OpenCL 1.2 v1.r12p0-04rel0.44f2946824bb8739781564bffe2110c9, 1861MB, 1861MB available, 0 GFLOPS peak)

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Data directory: /data/data/edu.berkeley.boinc/client

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Running as a daemon

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Libraries: libcurl/7.62.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2q

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task

Oct 10, 2019 11:17:56 AM||
Starting BOINC client version 7.16.3 for arm-android-linux-gnu


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Message 93172 - Posted: 12 Oct 2019, 18:17:20 UTC - in response to Message 93160.  

Version 7.16.3 updated from the Google Play store today.

Only if you're a beta tester, as this is a beta version. It's not available for main and probably wise as well as I have one Lenovo tab 4 on which it crashes immediately.
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Message 93201 - Posted: 14 Oct 2019, 21:09:03 UTC - in response to Message 93172.  

Version 7.16.3 updated from the Google Play store today.

Only if you're a beta tester, as this is a beta version


Also my S6 automaticaly update the client.
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Message 93203 - Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 4:45:06 UTC - in response to Message 93201.  

Only when you're a beta tester. When you go to the Play Store and search for BOINC you'll see you're a beta tester.

I am not at the moment and when I go to the Play Store I see:

Beta version is still installed. You might want to uninstall and reinstall this app.

New to 7.4.53

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Message 93209 - Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 15:19:55 UTC - in response to Message 93203.  

Only when you're a beta tester

A little bug.
I'm crunching Rosetta@Home on my smartphone and when i click the dropdown botton (arrow on the right) for wu properties, i cannot "reseal" it.
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Message 93212 - Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 16:07:27 UTC - in response to Message 93209.  

A little bug.
I'm crunching Rosetta@Home on my smartphone and when i click the dropdown botton (arrow on the right) for wu properties, i cannot "reseal" it.

I am also running Beta on Android with same experience for all tasks.

I can collapse expanded tasks list only by going to a different menu and back to tasks list again.
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Message 93213 - Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 16:09:37 UTC - in response to Message 93209.  

Sorry, wrong place to report that. Instead report it to the BOINC alpha email list (*) or report it on GitHub.

I doubt very much that the developer(s?) is reading these forums.
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Message 93224 - Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 23:21:03 UTC

Just to comment... I'm having no trouble with expand/collapse.
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Message 93225 - Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 0:08:26 UTC - in response to Message 93224.  

Just to comment... I'm having no trouble with expand/collapse.


... nevermind....
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Message 93827 - Posted: 22 Nov 2019, 10:24:35 UTC - in response to Message 93225.  

Expand collapse not working for me. More seriously though I installed the latest beta version on an Android 8.1 Go version Tablet and it stopped working after a few seconds. Rebooting didn't make any difference so I quit the Beta project and installed the stable version. I then rejoined the Beta project and installed the latest version on a few different Androids...Versions 4.4, 6.0, 8.0 and 9.0 and apart from the collapse/expand problem they all worked just fine. Then, a few days ago I discovered that 7.16.3 had installed itself without my permission on another of my 8.1 Go version Androids and this too had stopped working and several days of work were lost. Then just this morning I discovered another install without permission on an Android 7.0 device...luckily this install is working O.K. So to sum up Android 8.1 Go version failed on 2 of my machines (one an Alco, the other a Lenovo) and somehow or other it has installed itself on 2 of my machines without me going on to Play Store!! I have temporarily left the Beta project until the problem with 8.1 is sorted.

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Message 93839 - Posted: 22 Nov 2019, 14:08:50 UTC - in response to Message 93827.  

... and somehow or other it has installed itself on 2 of my machines without me going on to Play Store!! .
That's called auto-update applications, a function in Android's Play Store. I have it set off, so I can choose which applications to update and when. But otherwise you will be getting the newest applications automatically, and since you're a beta tester at BOINC, that includes the beta BOINC.
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Message 93848 - Posted: 22 Nov 2019, 19:22:00 UTC

O.K, Thanks for the explanation, I do have it turned off on all of my older Androids but neglected to do so on the ones I purchased recently, lesson learned. Another thing, while it's a nice touch to be able to adjust the amount of work (in days) to pick up it can lead to Boinc showing Zero tasks if the number of tasks is too high. I reckon the figure is around the 50 mark. While the tasks proceed O.K you are working blind until the figure drops to 50 or so. I set my 8 core Android to 3 days and picked up 140 Einstein tasks!!

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Message 93853 - Posted: 22 Nov 2019, 19:58:16 UTC - in response to Message 93848.  
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Where do you set how much work to pick up? I ask because the Android version of BOINC has no such option in its preferences, while the preferences from the website don't work on Android BOINC. It only uses the local preferences.

And do know that the Android devices with 8 cores and more have what are called Little and BIG cores. The Little cores are used all the low latency programs and BOINC, while the BIG cores are used by Android itself only. If you set BOINC to use 8 cores on an 8 core device, it'll load two tasks on all four of the Little cores. It won't use the BIG cores.

Best here to run BOINC on half the cores only.
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Message 93879 - Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 11:08:29 UTC - in response to Message 93853.  

If you go into advanced preferences and scroll down there are 2 new options introduced in the latest beta version. Under "Other", there are 2 options, first says "Work unit buffer",store at least x days of work and the second option is "Additional work unit buffer", store up to an additional x days of work.

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Message 93880 - Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 12:21:55 UTC

What you are referring to are the cache settings.
Crudely, the first says how big the cache is, and the second how often BOINC checks to see if you need more work. It is fairly pointless in most situations to have the second figure bigger than a fraction of a day (say 0.1).
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Message 93881 - Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 12:57:11 UTC - in response to Message 93879.  

That beta hasn't run stable enough on any of my devices for me to be able to get anywhere near preferences. It crashes immediately. So I didn't even know they added that.
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Message 94563 - Posted: 27 Dec 2019, 11:21:51 UTC
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How are you guys getting this latest from the Google Play store? The latest that I see is version 7.4.53 from 2016.

I had to download the app off apkmirror to get 7.16.3.

I'm hoping that an issue I have with the android client is resolved.. I plug the phone in on airplane mode at night, and when the battery reaches its charge, the client won't start and begin work. I really don't want to have to micromanage the thing...
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Message 94564 - Posted: 27 Dec 2019, 12:10:37 UTC - in response to Message 94563.  

How are you guys getting this latest from the Google Play store? The latest that I see is version 7.4.53 from 2016.
Sign up as a beta tester and you'll get 7.16.3
It's not a release version, and considering the amount of bugs it has I hope they don't make it one.

I'm hoping that an issue I have with the android client is resolved.. I plug the phone in on airplane mode at night, and when the battery reaches its charge, the client won't start and begin work. I really don't want to have to micromanage the thing...
When you put the phone in Airplane mode it disables WiFi and data. The client requires either data or WiFi for communications. Without either I'm about sure it won't work. And since the 7.4.53 client doesn't have a cache preference setting (like 7.16 does), you can't pre-cache work either for the science apps to work on. Only one task per CPU (core).
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Message 94582 - Posted: 28 Dec 2019, 20:08:13 UTC - in response to Message 94564.  

Well, I've got 4 tasks that are being worked on.. the old client got it to 30% for 3 tasks, and 25% for the last one (all on airplane mode.. i downloaded the workload beforehand).
Last night I started up boinc, put the phone on airplane mode, and went to sleep... in the morning, although the phone was fully charged, boinc literally only completed 0.1% more on all 4 tasks.

They've got to get this thing working right.
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