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Message 85359 - Posted: 21 Mar 2018, 0:42:26 UTC

The DENIS@Home project, based at San Jorge University, Zaragoza, Spain, is back online.
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Message 85371 - Posted: 22 Mar 2018, 6:54:51 UTC - in response to Message 85359.  

Great news. Please, insert it in the list of available projects in boinc manager.
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Message 85372 - Posted: 22 Mar 2018, 7:47:38 UTC - in response to Message 85371.  

Great news. Please, insert it in the list of available projects in boinc manager.
It's on https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php already: your computer should pick it up automatically within two weeks (unless you've politely declined to pester Google every time your internet connection goes down).
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Message 85387 - Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 11:41:32 UTC - in response to Message 85372.  

(unless you've politely declined to pester Google every time your internet connection goes down).


What does it means?
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Message 85388 - Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 12:17:53 UTC - in response to Message 85387.  

(unless you've politely declined to pester Google every time your internet connection goes down).
What does it means?
There is an option in Client configuration (cc_config.xml) which says:

<dont_contact_ref_site>0|1</dont_contact_ref_site>
To determine if a physical network connection exists, the client occasionally contacts a highly-available web site (google.com). If this flag is set, this behavior is suppressed. This flag also suppresses a periodic fetch of a project list from boinc.berkeley.edu.
That procedure was written into BOINC many years ago, when dial-up internet connections were unreliable. I now have a robust fibre-optic internet connection, and I don't need to rely on BOINC to tell me about the rare occasions when it goes down - I usually know about the problem before BOINC does. So, I choose not to let BOINC contact Google for this purpose.

I did ask recently why these two seemingly unrelated features were combined under a single configuration option, and I was told that it was for the benefit of large corporate users of BOINC (or individual users of BOINC within a large corporate environment), where the internet traffic management of the organisation wish to lock down all internet access to 'authorised traffic/destinations only'. I'm not sure I'm convinced by that argument, but it's not worth going to the barricades over.

Back to the original point - I was wrong. DENIS@Home won't re-appear in the 'attach to project' wizard quite yet - it's only been partially reinstated to just one of the BOINC lists. Users will need to look up the manual-attach url via https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php - which turns out to be difficult, because the project itself tells you to use the 'attach' wizard, and doesn't display the url directly.

I pulled this out of the home page:

<!--<scheduler>https://denis.usj.es/denisathome_cgi/cgi</scheduler> -->
<link rel="boinc_scheduler" href="https://denis.usj.es/denisathome_cgi/cgi">
but I can't find a master url anywhere. You might have to ask at their forums: http://denis.usj.es/denisathome/forum_index.php
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Message 85389 - Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 12:35:05 UTC - in response to Message 85388.  

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Message 85409 - Posted: 24 Mar 2018, 18:19:50 UTC

If you're using BAM! (BOINCStats), it was never delisted there.
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Message 85621 - Posted: 2 Apr 2018, 15:16:51 UTC - in response to Message 85389.  
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It's just https://denis.usj.es
Hmmm. Found it in an fresh 14-day download today, and that says it's http://denis.usj.es/denisathome/, complete with keywords 9 1003 1012

In for a penny, in for a pound - I'll try attaching.

Well, that gave me a clean attach, no error messages - but no tasks available, either.

Edit - looks like the proper way to get the current XML version is to visit https://boinc.berkeley.edu/project_list.php, not any other of the urls I've tried in the past (although they all generated/displayed XML of various vintages)
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Message 85675 - Posted: 3 Apr 2018, 18:55:11 UTC

On Mar 23 I tried attaching to both
https://denis.usj.es/denisathome/
and
https://denis.usj.es/

No errors on attach, work was downloaded and I didn't see anything strange or re-directed in the logs for either URL.
Project admin confirmed that both URL's are valid, and that http versions are re-directed to https.

https://denis.usj.es/denisathome/forum_thread.php?id=160&postid=1387
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