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Message 85228 - Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 13:35:54 UTC

Well that about says it all!!!

Words fail me

I withdraw trying to have any further discussion with someone as blinkered as you.
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Message 85229 - Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 13:38:14 UTC

Wow, Donald Trump himself couldn't have said it better.
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Message 85230 - Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 13:38:32 UTC - in response to Message 85227.  

I'll stop when it suits me not when it suits you.
How does that chime with

SPOT ON 100% !!! When in Rome you do as the Romans do.
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Message 85231 - Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 13:46:14 UTC - in response to Message 85226.  
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It depends upon how you define mind control.

One of the best known examples of mind control would be the " Manchurian candidate " wouldn't it , C.I.A mainly and certain American Uni's were involved with that " little " project Even Berkerly was involved fairly heavily back in the 50's,60's and 70's ( maybe even they are today ) so the Uni that hosts this site has " blood on it's hands " and the info is out on the web from different sorces coz it's very easy to Google it for yourselfs .But nowadays it's progressed / diversified into many separate " projects . And I know it weren't just the USA , USSR was involved and also Gt Britain so our hands ain't clean either.
SPOT ON 100% !!! When in Rome you do as the Romans do.
That is exactly the problem. Want to build a C of E or Catholic church in Asia? No chance for permission. The UK has 1,750 mosques and counting. Ethnic no go areas in our own country, who would have thought it possible, many of them flouting the law. And yet remember the influx of West Indians in the 1950's? lovely people, they virtually ran London Transport, no problems there.

I can see your point there but you don't really know unless you have tried to , I always believed in this country you are free to practice whatever religion you belong to , I ain't got any problem with Mosques , Temples so people who follow that religion have a place they can go and freely practice it , the problem comes as I said when you try to force your beliefs onto other people who don't believe as they do .
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Personally I believe ALL Religions exist so a few people can " control " the masses and EVERY religion can and is " twisted " and used for peoples own ends , examples ISIS ,KKK and there's plenty more I'm sure just a couple that popped into me braincell as I typed this post just now
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Manchurian candidate and that really belongs in your " conspiracy theories " thread Chris just said coz you posted about mind control
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Message 85232 - Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 14:00:41 UTC - in response to Message 85227.  

Once I have swopped all my kit over, that will be it.
Just set NNT crunch all remaining WU's then bye bye.
Don't slam the door on your way out.

It's in your psyche. You are not capable of keeping your word. Last "walkabout" totalled 74 days but you posted 10 times within that period, that equals an average of 1 post per week. So based on that, you will not refrain from posting. The longer the absence, the longer your frustration.

You're been stalked? Really? How many times have you posted crunchers post count per hour on the boards? Annoying isn't it when your own tactics are used against you.

FYI KenzieB was a male porn photographer & a superb story teller - how many years did he fool everyone?

As for no-go areas being Asian, have you forgotten Brixton Toxteth & Tottenham?
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Message 85238 - Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 15:46:48 UTC - in response to Message 85235.  

Ever tried chatting to a JW?
Ever tried chatting to a xenophobic bigot?

Oh just to clarify a specific point: One can be a BHL without having to be a member of any political party :-)
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Message 85241 - Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 17:32:17 UTC - in response to Message 85235.  

Ever tried chatting to a JW??

Yea I have Chris and you can have fun specialy when your sitting on your front doorstep with a couple of cans of Stella and proceed to roll up a nice fat blunt and light it in front of them , surprisingly they soon disappear , that was a few years ago not just after I got out of hospital after having my leg amputated ( they gave me some funny looks , probably 4t it was my fault ) , but the best one was the NF candidate at the last election " door knocking " he soon got told to " fornicate with himself " but he didn't understand so I told in in plain language :-) and you know I'm very capable at that hehe :-)
Oh I have. Every year the local South Korean community take over a local pub garden and put on a food festival. I went 2 years ago. About 10 stalls all cooking whatever it was. I went round each one and asked what the food was. All I got was "me no speakee english". Finally found some guy that had pidgin english and told him i wasn't eating what I didn't know it was. He just shrugged his shoulders. It's well advertised but it's only for themselves really.

That ain't exactly the same as trying to build a church in say Saudi Arabia or China really is it , like Richard said there's good and bad people everywhere bit unfair to base a whole community one a small selection of people belonging to that " culture " in't it
KKK isn't religious, they just support black slavery, and are the same as the NF in the UK

Yea you're probably right bout the KKK but sure I saw a doco on the beeb maybe last year or the year before where a reporter " went inside " a " klan " meeting and seamed to me the KKK was fairly " into " the Bible , think it was on BBC 3 but can't be 100% sure where I saw this program or it's name
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Message 85243 - Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 17:37:23 UTC - in response to Message 85241.  

Doesn't the KKK believe that "all men are created equal" as nothing but B/S? There are many in the world that think the same way, so can we safely assume that they're KKK?
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Message 85253 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 5:16:29 UTC

The only reason you got made a mod was because of the Kenziegate affair.

Bernie was invited to consider accepting a mod-ship at s@h because he is a thoughtful, rational and kind person. Opinions he holds are nuanced. He makes decisions slowly and carefully. He is able to see issues from multiple vantage points and he thinks before he types.
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Message 85254 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 5:30:09 UTC - in response to Message 85253.  

The only reason you got made a mod was because of the Kenziegate affair.

Bernie was invited to consider accepting a mod-ship at s@h because he is a thoughtful, rational and kind person. Opinions he holds are nuanced. He makes decisions slowly and carefully. He is able to see issues from multiple vantage points and he thinks before he types.

Angela, you did not need to reply to the scurrilous accusations hurled at Seti. Seti should be above the gutter where such filth grows and festers.
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Message 85256 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 5:47:18 UTC - in response to Message 85253.  

Bernie was invited to consider accepting a mod-ship at s@h because he is a thoughtful, rational and kind person. Opinions he holds are nuanced. He makes decisions slowly and carefully. He is able to see issues from multiple vantage points and he thinks before he types.

Seaming Chris brort this up and you replied I'll say this
That might be the case " we " only have your word for that Angela although you're in a " unique " situation to know , but the fact remains to a LOT of people at SETI believe Bernie got " rewarded " for grassing . What I think is irrelevant but that's a fact that can't be disputed by anyone !!!!
I ain't " sticking " up for Chris here and I would happily say the same to your , Chrises , Bernie's or anyones face
I know the " mod / gods " don't think that much of me but then again having the " volunteer moderator " tag means F/A to me like with anything respect is earned NOT a given , but then again I don't think that much of BHLL
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Message 85257 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 6:38:22 UTC

but the fact remains to a LOT of people at SETI believe Bernie got " rewarded " for grassing


Well thank you for that vote of confidence , and I am sorry that I have not treated you fairly since I became a moderator.

I will say that Chris is aware I thought long and hard about revealing what I knew. When I sent the information to SETI@Home I was asked what I thought should happen.

I suggested that Darryl Wilson should be approached privately and told what had been discovered and asked to leave SETI@Home and not return.

However the powers that be thought it was more important and that people should know what had been going on. So it was never my wish to have it brought into the open as it happened.

I then decided to say it was myself who discovered the duplicity so that the I could answer any questions as to what I had discovered and try to keep any discussions on to the facts as I had reported them.

As you may know even with me to answer questions many many false rumours were started.

So I had no wish for the affair to become public in the way it did and I am sorry that you think letting people know they had been duped for years is "grassing". Quite a surprise to me.
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Message 85259 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 7:30:53 UTC - in response to Message 85253.  

Bernie was invited to consider accepting a mod-ship at s@h because he is a thoughtful, rational and kind person. Opinions he holds are nuanced. He makes decisions slowly and carefully. He is able to see issues from multiple vantage points and he thinks before he types.

thank you Angela for your post,
I wish we had more people in the world like Bernie and all the mods here and at sah,
there is soo much ... greed, cruelty, meanness, xenophobia in the world today ...
but I think I am just a looser ......... so what do i know?

the leader of the socialist party in my country Canada wrote the following:

My friends, love is better than anger,
Hope is better than fear,
Optimism is better than despair,
So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic,
And we’ll change the world.

Best Wishes to you all,
Byron.

also i like John Lenon song imagine ...

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today... Aha-ah...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace... You...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world... You...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

... John Lenon

... maybe one day ............................... ????????????????

Best Wishes to you all,
Byron.
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Message 85261 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 8:19:10 UTC - in response to Message 85257.  

but the fact remains to a LOT of people at SETI believe Bernie got " rewarded " for grassing
Well thank you for that vote of confidence , and I am sorry that I have not treated you fairly since I became a moderator.


Since when did I say that when you have modded me it was not fairly Bernie ??(and you're the mod that 9 / 10 times does , probably coz were in the same country eg same time zone and you can respond quickest ).
Please tell me where I said that coz as far as I can remember I AIN'T said that at all so don't you dare " start putting words in my mouth " matey !!!!
All my post says is what a lot of people think , sorry if you don't like it but that ain't my problem , as far as I'm concerned you do " ok " as a mod , least you ain't so bleeding left wing liberal and don't bring personal views into your mod actions as I've seen happen on the boards .
Was going to p.m you this but I'm replying to your post so best " out in the open " , and at least I'll say what a lot of people wont or are too two faced to say
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Message 85262 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 9:13:53 UTC

Chris and others might like to think there was a girl, but what he and the others don't know is, that the only photos are of a professional porn model. The mark that is on them is Darryl's as the same mark is on some of the hardcore BDSM photos on a paysite a birdie dropped a couple years before Kenzie existed on the boards. Hardcore BDSM is frowned on in Canada which may play into this. I strongly suspect it was Darryl all along. The photos you saw were likely what is called TFP in the business. Trade for prints, or shoot my portfolio and I'll do your project for free. He likely was using "Kenzie" as practice so he could sell letters and personally "used" items to other dupes. He was good. I suspect the gig was up when enough of his customers wanted cam girl sessions and he couldn't fake those. Without profit he didn't pay the registration on the private site. Then SETI people started sniffing around. At one point there was someone who found out who the professional model was and threatened to drag lawyers into the mess. It would have been terrible for Seti, likely shut them down, and they did nothing wrong.

It you still want a fantasy that at some point Kenzie was a girl, then the only possibility is Kenzie and Darryl were shacking up for a while and it turned sour. Oh and Professional BDSM Porn models aren't likely to be into SETI where as geeky photographers are. YMMV.
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Message 85263 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 9:48:26 UTC
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Chris and others might like to think there was a girl, but what he and the others don't know is, that the only photos are of a professional porn model


Before this get out of hand, there were 6 models that Darryl used in photos of Kenzie and her niece and there is no proof any of them were porn models.

And yes Chris was fully aware of the whole of my investigation and its results.

Other pictures on various sites taken by Darryl were possibly of a pornographic nature but he didn't use any of them as Kenzie.

The photos you saw were likely what is called TFP in the business. Trade for prints, or shoot my portfolio and I'll do your project for free.


I can confirm from my investigation that this is exactly what they were and as such the photographer retains the right to use the pictures any way they see fit.

So please remember as far as I can tell Darryl did nothing illegal, amoral perhaps.

As this is the "politics" thread can I suggest that if people wish to continue with this please PM me and I can answer any question you may have.
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Message 85268 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 13:13:40 UTC - in response to Message 85266.  

However his extensive knowledge of BDSM, the porn industry, sleazy photographers, "personal used items" for sale

You don't need to be " involved " to know that you can just google it and it's there if you want to " visit " those types of site but you're more likely to pick up a virus ;-);-);-);-);-);-);-);-);-)
And before anyone says yea but 100% of males are wankers just a few admit to the fact :-):-):-):-):-):-) and no one can say I'm wrong there .
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Message 85269 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 13:18:57 UTC
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All skeletons in one closet. Any posts I missed? Please flag so a moderator can move it over.
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Message 85271 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 16:41:00 UTC

A fascinating read.
Darryl acting as Kenzie spun a very plausible story and took many people in. Indeed I was one of them. It was not until the 'niece' turned up and Kenzie vanish did I suspect there was anything amiss.
Not knowing the whole back story or the rationale behind the actions of those involved I am prepared to say "let it die and be laid to rest". I don't think brining it up here, or at SETI, serves any good purpose and may indeed cause hurt to some of those involved.
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Message 85272 - Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 16:49:09 UTC - in response to Message 85263.  

All I can tell you Bernie I saw photos of one of the Kenzie's or a model who was her twin, naked in foot and hand stocks with sex toys, on one of the alt.binaries groups some time ago and before I had seen any of the Kenzie's. At some point IIRC Canada changed their laws on BSDM porn and DW may have removed the photos as a result. Asked Kenzie if there were nudes of her on the net and the coy reply was they were out there.
As you say no laws broken, just trust.
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