These are the BOINC forums, you can post about anything about the client, the manager (GUI), any of the tools, problems with supported account managers, problems with directories or the registry entries. But when you have problems with grcpool, we ask you to take your question directly to its makers. We do not support grcpool and have no help about it on these forums.

Grcpool is the account manager for Gridcoin, and they've taken the Account Manager concept, stripped it of anything they didn't want, and that's what you have to work with to enter their pool.

We understand that you come to these forums to ask for help about it, but that's something we cannot give. We do not support Gridcoin or any of its tools.
We respectfully request that you take problems with these to their website, forums or other means of communication.

With thanks,
The BOINC team.

You are absolutely correct about grcpool as I found out by asking some simple questions at their form and not getting any answers.

I joined 2 weeks ago and am 1/2 way to my 2000 coin minimum before I can get out and go back to boincstats and do solo mining. In the mean time I have been helping newbies like myself at their forum but it seems I am the only one interested in helping.

Thought I would show how badly things can get screwed up. First of all, grcpool has no forum of their own. The closest forum I can find is gridcoin's forum but they (moderators) do not provide help for grcpool as it is a different entity.

Here is an example of a screw-up by grcpool. I am going to show gpugrid's "request" and "reply" but the problem is the same on all projects, not just gpugrid. AFAICT the problem is grcpool.

From "sched_request_www.gpugrid.net.xml"

<global_preferences>
<source_project>https://grcpool.com/</source_project>
<mod_time>0.000000</mod_time>
<battery_charge_min_pct>90.000000</battery_charge_min_pct>

From "sched_reply_www.gpugrid.net.xml"

<source_project>http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/</source_project>
<source_scheduler>https://scheduler.worldcommunitygrid.org/boinc/wcg_cgi/fcgi</source_scheduler>
<mod_time>1503442910</mod_time>
<run_on_batteries>0</run_on_batteries>

On every service request, from every project, the reply from grcpool provides parameter info from "world community grid" instead of the actual project !!!

OTH, grcpool is the only pool available for uses who cannot afford to buy (with real USD$ ) into gridcoin mining. It does provide a needed function for boinc users to get started who do not have cash to make the initial investment.

[EDIT] For what it is worth, I am not running WCG on any of my systems since switching to grcpool from BAM!

How did you get so many coins in two weeks on the pool? I have 8 GPUs going, and I have nowhere near that in almost a month worth of crunching!

Hi,

I am always getting

4/4/2018 3:32:37 PM | grcpool.com | Message from account manager: Authorization Failed

error.

Help required.

Regards .

Tanvir

BeemerBiker:

Is that message between BOINC and grcpool that you show there? If so, what did you do to get them?

Thanks

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Thank you for the headsup.

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Well I am learning some issues with grcpool that are leaving me perplexed.
I have seen you other places BeemerBiker and maybe it was on cryptocurrencytalk or somewhere else.

I'm trying to get a headless Linux Ubuntu to work properly with the pool and I'm on day 4 of trial and error.

I have tasks running now...as of today... when they complete I will know if I get credit for them or not.....

If I do, I'll add an additional 40 processors to the pool so I can up my coin count....

I have 2 windows machines working there now as well.....

Well I am learning some issues with grcpool that are leaving me perplexed.
I have seen you other places BeemerBiker and maybe it was on cryptocurrencytalk or somewhere else.

I'm trying to get a headless Linux Ubuntu to work properly with the pool and I'm on day 4 of trial and error.

I have tasks running now...as of today... when they complete I will know if I get credit for them or not.....

If I do, I'll add an additional 40 processors to the pool so I can up my coin count....

I have 2 windows machines working there now as well.....

This looks very much like a personal problem you are having between you, Grcpool and or Beemerbiker and you should address these problems directly to the project concerned via their Forum and a PM to Beemerbiker. I doubt you will get much response here. I would hate to turn this Boinc Forum into a GrcPool Forum.

"Grcpool is the account manager for Gridcoin, and they've taken the Account Manager concept, stripped it of anything they didn't want, and that's what you have to work with to enter their pool."
"We understand that you come to these forums to ask for help about it, but that's something we cannot give. We do not support Gridcoin or any of its tools.
We respectfully request that you take problems with these to their website, forums or other means of communication."

"With thanks,
The BOINC team."

Thank you for Posting this here "Jord is on Vacation" about this issue.
Back to the Drawing Board.

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Crunching@EVGA The Number One Team in the BOINC Community. Folding@EVGA The Number One Team in the Folding@Home Community.

I would like to add that Gridcoin or Grcpool is not recognized by BOINC or any Boinc Stats, therefore your only choice is to ask help from your own forum.

I've found numerous hosts at various projects that I can only assume the Anon host is from Gridcoin that fail all or nearly all tasks like you mentioned. (The % of users/hosts that are Gridcoin vs others makes it highly like many of bad hosts are Gridcoin). Some of the work gets wasted when 2+ wingmen are bad hosts. About the only thing users can do is see if admins can ban bad hosts or if they could implement some sort of tasks limits to those hosts. Some of the pool owners respond to messages at projects if they aren't Anon.

Even though many of the bad hosts are from Gridcoin they're probably still a benefit to BOINC and the projects that the system is around. A necessary evil of sorts. Getting paid attracts a lot of users that otherwise would not crunch.

I'm betting they're a bunch of Trumplings, naturopaths, scientologists, flat-earthers, etc.

You could have just not written that last sentence, that's beneath everyone's dignity.

Gridcoin does not require anything shady with the BOINC client and neither "installing software that turns your rig into a useless lump of crap". We do not even modify it or distribute our own version like charityengine does.
I can only explain this to me that they choose incompatible projects for their hosts or something like this.

Was with grcpool for a while but as my main project (CPDN) isn't whitelisted I have stopped using it. It made no difference to how any of my computers ran tasks on any of the projects I was signed up to. Of course CPDN doesn't have wingment in the same sense that many other projects do.

About the only thing users can do is see if admins can ban bad hosts or if they could implement some sort of tasks limits to those hosts. Some of the pool owners respond to messages at projects if they aren't Anon.

CPDN will set Maximum daily WU quota per CPU on computers failing virtually everything to -1. This means it will not receive any new tasks. It will then message them that there is a problem they need to sort out. However that relies on other users spotting the problem and reporting it on a dedicated thread on the CPDN forums. I don't know if any other projects have anything similar. I don't think them being anon stops the admins from being able to message them once they have the computer id for the project.

While I and others think there are problems with grcpool, actually those behind it are interested in encouraging more people to crunch for science I don't believe your accusations stand up, indeed to me they go against the posting rules to the left of where I am typing.[/quote]

Was with grcpool for a while but as my main project (CPDN) isn't whitelisted I have stopped using it. It made no difference to how any of my computers ran tasks on any of the projects I was signed up to. Of course CPDN doesn't have wingment in the same sense that many other projects do.

About the only thing users can do is see if admins can ban bad hosts or if they could implement some sort of tasks limits to those hosts. Some of the pool owners respond to messages at projects if they aren't Anon.

CPDN will set Maximum daily WU quota per CPU on computers failing virtually everything to -1. This means it will not receive any new tasks. It will then message them that there is a problem they need to sort out. However that relies on other users spotting the problem and reporting it on a dedicated thread on the CPDN forums. I don't know if any other projects have anything similar. I don't think them being anon stops the admins from being able to message them once they have the computer id for the project.

While I and others think there are problems with grcpool, actually those behind it are interested in encouraging more people to crunch for science I don't believe your accusations stand up, indeed to me they go against the posting rules to the left of where I am typing.

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I've seen that thread at CPDN. Some project owners do not respond to forum questions or respond to bad host threads. Its good to see admins take those steps and the Collatz admin went to extraordinary lengths to stop bad hosts.

I didn't know about the auto message part but I know Amicable #s does ban bad hosts pretty quickly. Some others have systems to reduces their quota eventually getting down to -1.

I didn't know about the auto message part but I know Amicable #s does ban bad hosts pretty quickly. Some others have systems to reduces their quota eventually getting down to -1.

BOINC has an automatic mechanism which should bring the quota down to (+) 1 - though there is some debate as to how effective it is.

A value of -1 is considered a blacklisting of the host: it is normally only applied manually, as at CPDN.

How did you get so many coins in two weeks on the pool? I have 8 GPUs going, and I have nowhere near that in almost a month worth of crunching!

just saw this post.

Had several HD7950 & S9000 radeon systems most liquid cooled running milkyway. Gave them away recently as older systems need a lot of baby sitting to keep running plus I got interested in other things that dont involve baby sitting computers. Have a few mostly gtx1070 systems running gpugrid now.

Gridcoin used to be 21 cents just a few years ago but now only .005 (1/2 a cent)

Switched to solo mining after I hit 2000 and am now at 31000. Most of that came from milkyway and gpugrid. Look me up here