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Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5129 |
I can't answer that question directly - but I have in front of me a 1976 certified copy of my mother's 1930 birth certificate. Her first name is spelled 'Jennifer', when she'd been known as 'Jenifer' for the previous 45 years. That certainly worried her - she had them go back and check it. And I had to make sure that all variants were listed on her death certificate, just in case somebody refused to pay up on an insurance policy or something. So she has three names on her death certificate: "Jenifer ... otherwise Jennifer ... formerly known as Haselgrove". The only suggestion I have for your problem is that you can always get a certified, pukka, copy of a birth certificate, which is accepted wherever a birth certificate is needed. Unless you were born in a country with a less well established, or less accessible, public records service than the UK... The copy UK certificate issued under the 1953 Act (which still seems to be the way of doing things here) says on the back that an additional name (such as one given in Christian baptism) can be added to the register, and hence to the certificate, if the certificate of baptism or naming is dated less than 12 months after the birth was registered. |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15569 |
The civil servant doesn't have the apprehension to deduce that when your father and mother share that surname, that that's yours as well? |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5129 |
On my mother's certificate, there are two first names, and no surname - "me me them", as you suggest. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 14 Posts: 656 |
Accessibility is on the far awayish side of the equator, Richard - but there is a high commission in Kensington. How embassies feel about their official documents being rubbished would be interesting to find out I think... ;) On my mother's certificate, there are two first names, and no surname - "me me them", as you suggest.And no one ever tossed it aside and demanded to see her adoption papers? Or got shirty with her for blinking blankly at them while they growled about enrolled deedpolls at some Royal Court or other ? I'm going to take a flying leap now and guess your answer is no. .-^ " " * \ no Deedpolling myself to fit the certificate might not be necessary then...Thank you! :) I don't think they liked that suggestion much anyway. The civil servant doesn't have the apprehension to deduce that when your father and mother share that surname, that that's yours as well?The monotonous regularity with which these people rear up out of the woodwork and set about taking an egg beater to my brain, is more than a mere curse can explain, Jord. I think. Yes. :) edit: thank you for the replies |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5129 |
Since I've had to go through all this recently, and I've still got the box of papers handy... Both my father's January 1953 copy certificate, and my stepfather's August 1926 original certificate - issued under Acts of 1836 to 1874 - only show the 'given' names (two, in each case). Leaving the surname to be deduced from the current names of their respective fathers and mothers (the same in both cases, as it happens): former surnames of the women are also listed. So, it all seems very standardised, as you might expect. Oh, I should have answered. No. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 14 Posts: 656 |
Since I've had to go through all this recently, and I've still got the box of papers handy...That really is so kind of you to do :) Thank you. Oh, I should have answered. No.:)) I probably should have apologised for suggesting your mum ever blinked blankly at anyone... ;) |
Send message Joined: 30 Dec 05 Posts: 470 |
If you were not married at the time of the birth, the mother can register the birth alone but the father’s details will not be recorded. Is that absolute? I would think not. I could check with my cousin's youngest, who now lives down under. She was born after her father died in a road accident, I would find it very odd if his name was not on her birth certificate. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 14 Posts: 656 |
So everybody knows what to expect, I'll link it like this: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/12/penguin-catastrophe-leads-to-demands-for-protection-in-east-antarctica A colony of about 40,000 Adélie penguins in Antarctica has suffered a “catastrophic breeding event” – all but two chicks have died of starvation this year. It is the second time in just four years that such devastation – not previously seen in more than 50 years of observation – has been wrought on the population. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/13/penguins-starving-death-something-very-wrong-antarctic Over the next year we have the opportunity to create an Antarctic Ocean Sanctuary – the largest protected area on Earth – which would put the waters off-limits to the industrial fishing vessels currently sucking up the tiny shrimp-like krill, on which all Antarctic life relies.We should do that - definitely. Yes. |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15569 |
Hold on to your hats, Irish & English people, there's going to be a big whoosh coming. Her name is Ophelia. Her wrath may be violent. @The Penguins, send all your (canned) fish to them. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2106 |
"A Met Office spokeswoman said: “The east side of the country certainly benefiting from some warmer temperatures into the weekend and at the start of next week.”" Got my sunglasses handy :-) |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15569 |
Just heard on the radio, Morrissey's new song Spent the day in bed. Looking at the lyrics, it's not as down as you'd normally expect of Morrissey songs. |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5129 |
The good news was that London and the SE missed all the bad weather. The even better news is that The State pension is going up next year.Yes. Only Tory-voting pensioners are protected from having to pay the bankers back for their misdemeanours. |
Send message Joined: 23 Feb 08 Posts: 2495 |
So how come these Johnny come lately light weights get more than I do for less work??? Kick the can down the road. Serious. They have no idea how to pay them but they had to promise it to get them to work at all. Pensions are the ultimate ponzi scheme. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2106 |
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Send message Joined: 30 Dec 05 Posts: 470 |
even though for local people it changes their personal lives. What local people, there were no local people, well very few, before Heathrow was built. They all moved there because of Heathrow. |
Send message Joined: 30 Dec 05 Posts: 470 |
Yes I know that Nick, I mean the local people NOW. My first recollection of Heathrow was was flying into Heathrow on a BAOC Britannia, before Comet flights were common, was all the reservoirs near Staines. Must have been about six at that time. |
Send message Joined: 25 May 09 Posts: 1301 |
I can still remember being in a Trident as it it groped its way in through the fog to a near perfect three-pointer, then had to wait for an escort vehicle as the flight crew couldn't see the taxiway lights. And seeing Concorde depart on a misty November evening at full re-heat |
Send message Joined: 4 Dec 15 Posts: 147 |
Dramatic plunge in insect numbersA matter of interest perhaps more appreciated in the seti cafe's bug thread, Tami. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. With your permission, I will repost there. |
Send message Joined: 4 Dec 15 Posts: 147 |
Try Einstein. Nice crowd. :-) |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5129 |
The local regional airport is about 10 miles east of my house, and because of the same prevailing winds, most of the regular fare of holiday charter jets heads directly towards me. Most take a left turn and head south towards the sun, some continue straight on (to Dublin, perhaps?) and pass near enough directly overhead. In its later years, when it was clear that Concorde wouldn't be expanding its route list of scheduled passenger services, the spare planes were used for those short excursion flights and regularly visited LBA. They were the only planes I could ever hear from my downstairs workroom, rush along the corridor and up the stairs, and still be in time to see fly overhead and off towards the Irish Sea. They were beautiful, but boy were they loud. |
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