No I didn't!!!

Well you didn't mention it in ya post did ya Chris hehe ;-)

Back to politics.

Sport is now political. Forgot your bragging about standing up for the Union Jack during the Olympics boyo?

Sport is now political

Sport's always been used for political ends ain't it Hitler when the Germans held the Olympics before WW2 ,off the top of my head . Polititions will use anything they can if they think they will get a advantage over another one way or another

Polititions will use anything they can if they think they will get a advantage over another one way or another

And the moment they think that way their schwartz needs to come off with a rusty light saber.

Yep, shame some people don't stop & think before posting :-)

Confirmation that sport is political

Well what can be expected from someone that equates Cricket with the Open :-)

tsk tsk tsk
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/29/europe/mark-garnier-uk-trade-minister-allegations/index.html

London (CNN)British Prime Minister Theresa May has ordered an investigation into an international trade minister, Mark Garnier, who reportedly admitted to asking his personal assistant to buy sex toys and used a sexual slur against her.

A blast from the past post (aka: I'm-a bit-behind-in-this-thread)

Girls have been tomboys ever since Enid Blytons' Famous 5 in the early 1940's with George. ...

Rly? ;) The term originated hundreds of years before that I thought, first to mean a rude boy, then, a little afterwards, an "untameable" or "unruly" girl, even a "strumpet or immodest woman". It's always been an insult when applied to the female of the species, however it's been erm... dressed up ;) It's also carried racial undertones in the past apparently :( which I didn't know - but now I do, surprises me I didn't :/

Oh so we can forget Doris day in Calamity Jane, and Elizabeth Taylor in National Velvet then? All young girls go through a tomboy stage it's all part of growing up. Or it was until the burn your bra brigade banned it :-(

:(( Where did I say any of that? You said there have been tomboys since the 1940's. If you would stop and think for a moment before getting angry with me. The term denotes divergence from society's "default" expectation of a girl's behaviour. There are equivalent terms that have been used for boys which are just "as wrong" when a boy diverges from "expectations". It's a word that's been in the English language for something like 500 years and never been questioned as to whether it's just as normal for a girl to come in from play covered in bruises or scratches from scrambling up trees and tumbling down steep hillsides as it is for a boy to come in from play as neat and tidy as he went out - to use one banal example. The day an English woman put her leg over a horse instead of sitting there perched in a spine-twistingly uncomfortable position, half the country probably fainted dead away, men and women. So pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese don't take offence, again, okay? I have no personal problem with the word. It is though - what it is - and times do change. As the history of its usage was meant to demonstrate.

And yes... I know exactly what real world politics is, and is it any wonder North Korea is preparing for war?

General Franco's ghost is enjoying a few good chuckles

Naw, use the old landlord trick, paper over them :-)

Further proof that politics should stay out of sport

That should not require a request to European muppets!

Now that could be as good as the original Tinker, Tailor couldn't it ;-)

Now that could be as good as the original Tinker, Tailor couldn't it ;-)

& they could do the sequel in 2020, "Trump's People" :-)

.... me gently. At least we're on the same page on that. So you agree with my original comment - politics should stay the hell out of sport.

What many may not know is that in WWI the 3rd black man to play professional football & for Tottenham Hotspur, enlisted, promoted to Captain & all his men thought highly of him. Sadly he was K.I.A. Walter Tull Therefore, please be a lot more respectful of other nationalities that reside in the UK. You do not know of their family history.

Many more sportsmen joined & few returned.

...even he cannot uniaterally order a nuclear strike single handedly on N Korea.

Sadly, I don't think that's true. Two quotes from this Boston Globe article dated 08 August this year (I'm quoting because there is limited public access before the paywall kicks in):

Trump has “unchecked authority to order the use of conventional or nuclear weapons against North Korea,” Bruce G. Blair, a nuclear security expert at Princeton University’s Program on Science and Global Security, said in an e-mail. “I believe that both options are being prepared right now.”

“Trump can order a nuclear strike,” Alex Wellerstein, an assistant professor of nuclear weapons at the Stevens Institute of Technology in New Jersey, said in an e-mail. “The US system of nuclear chain of command is very clear that the President, and only the President, is in the position of authorizing a nuclear strike.”

The position seems to be that Trump can issue the order by himself, with no checks and balances whatsoever. But he can't fly the aeroplane, or press the launch button, or whatever, by himself.

So, the question becomes - will anybody lower down the chain of consequences refuse to obey the order? Will anybody risk what is almost certainly a career-ending, court martial, act? Will the sort of servicemen (or women) selected for positions in that chain of command have the mindset to over-rule their Commander-in-Chief?

We know Stanislav Petrov did something like that from the other side, although there was no direct order. How do you think the US service personnel will react?

Well in theory he can, but he would have to overrule senior advisors and senior military people to do so.

From what I've seen and read afraid you're wrong there the President of the USA can order a nuke strike whenever he wants , like the sign on President Truman's desk said " The buck stops here " .
Put money when the latest incumbent of that position took office they reset the codes to "000000000000000" coz that's what the launch codes were ( now it's probably "123456abcdefg" ;-)

Trump has “unchecked authority to order the use of conventional or nuclear weapons against North Korea,” Bruce G. Blair, a nuclear security expert at Princeton University’s Program on Science and Global Security, said in an e-mail. “I believe that both options are being prepared right now.”
“Trump can order a nuclear strike,” Alex Wellerstein, an assistant professor of nuclear weapons at the Stevens Institute of Technology in New Jersey, said in an e-mail. “The US system of nuclear chain of command is very clear that the President, and only the President, is in the position of authorizing a nuclear strike.”
So, the question becomes - will anybody lower down the chain of consequences refuse to obey the order? Will anybody risk what is almost certainly a career-ending, court martial, act? Will the sort of servicemen (or women) selected for positions in that chain of command have the mindset to over-rule their Commander-in-Chief?
We knowSo, the question becomes - will anybody lower down the chain of consequences refuse to obey the order? Will anybody risk what is almost certainly a career-ending, court martial, act? Will the sort of servicemen (or women) selected for positions in that chain of command have the mindset to over-rule their Commander-in-Chief?

We know Stanislav Petrov did something like that from the other side, although there was no direct order. How do you think the US service personnel will react?
did something like that from the other side, although there was no direct order. How do you think the US service personnel will react?

Those personel who " work " in them silo control rooms are drilled that if the " go" came through they would obay it without question .
Stanislav Petrov He was the person who over rode " Dead Hand " wen't he ? That's Dr Strangelove in real life and nobody is sure if that system is still operational but don't nuke Russia just in case ;-)[/quote]

The Vice President could invoke the 25th Amendment.

The missiles don't have a self destruct. Too late by then.

The guy with the football could pull out his sidearm however and that may be the only thing preventing it today.

Because of the high tension level the silo guys will obey orders if they aren't too high to turn the keys.

Anyone fancy watching " Threads " or " The day after " by any chance ???

Oh so we can forget Doris day in Calamity Jane,

Did the tomboy "survive" or conform, Mr S? Sexist, racist escapism may have passed for light entertainment then, and still do now, but that does not make such aspects defensible, Sir.

and Elizabeth Taylor in National Velvet then?

A better example. I will endeavour to keep the explanation simple for you. ;-)The "tomboy" stayed a "tomboy", Sir.

All young girls go through a tomboy stage

No they do not. Neither is tomboy "a stage".

it's all part of growing up. Or it was until the burn your bra brigade banned it :-(

The "burn your bra brigade", Mr S -are people not unlike yourself. Or have you forgotten?

@Anniet

And yes... I know exactly what real world politics is,

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The side saddle phenomenon...? ;-)

is it any wonder North Korea is preparing for war?

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