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Message 82405 - Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 12:46:25 UTC - in response to Message 82403.  

Thought that was pretty obvious from the report.
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Message 82490 - Posted: 1 Nov 2017, 10:42:27 UTC - in response to Message 82483.  

Simply make more parts?

Donate more Taxes.
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Message 82547 - Posted: 3 Nov 2017, 8:09:30 UTC

A1 - People driving through the night, working at night, have an attack of the munchies and find the fridge is empty....

A2 - Americans.
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Message 82552 - Posted: 3 Nov 2017, 9:17:08 UTC

Q1 What sort of country is it where people go to fast food joints at 3.30am in the morning?


Er well the UK actually

Back in 2006 McDonald’s had nine restaurants open 24 hours a day. Now it is 567, as demand for early breakfasts and late meals from shift workers has increased.


That was 2015, apparently it is now 600 open 24 hours, just under half.
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Message 82559 - Posted: 3 Nov 2017, 13:09:21 UTC - in response to Message 82555.  
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Q1 What sort of country is it where people go to fast food joints at 3.30am in the morning?

Er well the UK actually

McDonnalds was the only place open at 3 / 4 am in the morning when I used to weld up hospital beds , it might be crap food but believe me there weren't any left when whoever did the " run " got back to the workshop :-) . Might be crap but least it was hot .
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Message 82560 - Posted: 3 Nov 2017, 13:32:48 UTC - in response to Message 82547.  

A2 - Americans.
No too inclusive, just the subset that have to keep hours to match some home office in Europe.
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Message 82565 - Posted: 3 Nov 2017, 16:26:51 UTC - in response to Message 82549.  

Do people working through the night get time off work to go to a drive thru?
You ever hear of a "little" thing called Lunch/Meal break boyo?
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Message 82568 - Posted: 3 Nov 2017, 18:09:23 UTC

When I was on the road, years ago, I could tell you which service stations were open, which one served the best (most effective) coffee, which one had the cleanest loos and where most of the groups would be at any time of a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday night.
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Message 82571 - Posted: 3 Nov 2017, 19:20:10 UTC
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I won't use them as a matter of principle because of who they are [...] Apart from being corporate bastards they they(sic) are also tax dodgers.
Remind me again... who are the tax haven twins, and what do they peddle that you drink from? ;)

There was at least one 24 hour Mcdonald's in the eighties, which, If I'd just missed the 4am-ish night bus home after work, was sooooooo much better to scurry to than freezing to death for at least an hour until the next one might turn up, and safer. By which time it would be better to just wait a bit longer for the first train from Victoria because it got me home before the 5am-ish bus would. It wasn't a drive-thru, but it had seats, and when you've been on your feet solidly, from 3pm the previous afternoon... being a judge from the position of a principle maintained, but untested, is only marginally less hypocritical than it is uninformed, don't you think? ;)

That's what I think anyway ;)
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Message 82665 - Posted: 5 Nov 2017, 22:30:25 UTC

Well, it's finally happened. After 16 years, my email account has finally been hacked - I must have been saying something interesting, to someone in Kazakhstan. Ignore any emails with links in the last two hours, if you're boring enough to be on my contacts list.
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Message 82667 - Posted: 5 Nov 2017, 22:52:19 UTC - in response to Message 82588.  
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being a judge from the position of a principle maintained, but untested, is only marginally less hypocritical than it is uninformed, don't you think? ;)
Then I am happy to be called an uninformed hypocrite ...
I don't remember saying you were.

I remember asking you what you thought ...

And you nailing yourself to a mast when you did.

Happily.



I've never heard the Barclay Brothers referred to as that before.
I expect you knew about their tax and rotten-boroughing though, because both have been covered quite extensively before. Probably not in the Telegraph mind.

No.

But terms coined for twins linger in my head a lot longer than in yours I expect :) Perfectly understandable. I wouldn't worry about that, not while you've got other things on your mind.

Perhaps you didn't realise I'd already read that from the link you'd posted (here I think it was), but thank you for reiterating your point yet again :) I'm not sure I can be bothered to repeat what I said, I am interested in which categories your general suspicions have put me in though. Specifically.



@Richard: I'm sorry to hear that :(
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Message 82669 - Posted: 6 Nov 2017, 0:02:27 UTC - in response to Message 82665.  

Richard, unless they are in your imap outbox your account may have simply been spoofed. But take all appropriate scrubbing actions because something got your contacts list.
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Message 82670 - Posted: 6 Nov 2017, 0:11:57 UTC - in response to Message 82669.  

Richard, unless they are in your imap outbox your account may have simply been spoofed. But take all appropriate scrubbing actions because something got your contacts list.
They're not in my outbox. Because I use webmail, the contact list is stored on the server, and is accessible by anyone with access to the hacked password. A warning for anyone who uses a cloud email service.
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Message 82709 - Posted: 6 Nov 2017, 15:02:13 UTC - in response to Message 82676.  

If someone like Richard can get their email hacked it just shows you how careful you have to be these days.
Just password protection isn't safe anymore. Two Factor Authentication is, where you'll be sent a second form of authentication next to your username & password, before you're allowed to log in. The second thing sent is usually sent to your phone.

Most of my passwords are now 15 characters long and more. Consisting of not just letters and numbers, but other characters as well. And then there are sites (usually banks!) that still don't allow more than 8 characters and only allow letters and numbers. As soon as I come to such sites, I don't register anymore, but instead write them a complaint mail.

Just one password is only 5 characters long: my Hotmail account (and thus Windows Live login).
Here I am waiting when Microsoft is going to tell me my password is inadequate. Thus far they haven't.
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Message 82711 - Posted: 6 Nov 2017, 15:27:21 UTC

One well respected security consultant has suggested that the trend to more and more complex password requirements is actually counter productive as most people have no hope of remembering complex passwords and end up writing them down or use some form of password manager, which is somewhat counter productive.
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Message 82712 - Posted: 6 Nov 2017, 15:36:31 UTC - in response to Message 82711.  

Long, complicated, passwords are probably helpful against an extended dictionary attack (i.e. automated guesswork). But they provide no protection at all against a stolen password file. Which do you think was more likely to be used to obtain access to a Yahoo account for use as a spam sender?
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Message 82714 - Posted: 6 Nov 2017, 16:27:53 UTC - in response to Message 82712.  

Long, complicated, passwords are probably helpful against an extended dictionary attack (i.e. automated guesswork). But they provide no protection at all against a stolen password file. Which do you think was more likely to be used to obtain access to a Yahoo account for use as a spam sender?

IIRC Yahell forced me to change all my Yhell PWs after that stolen file. Also wasn't that file only of the hashed PW's? If someone has a de-hash function, that is frightening.
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Message 82728 - Posted: 7 Nov 2017, 7:53:29 UTC - in response to Message 82676.  
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I've always prided myself on being prepared to stand fup or what I believe in. Also in having no hidden agendas.
Indeed - none. ;-)))))

I expect you knew about their tax and rotten-boroughing though, because both have been covered quite extensively before. Probably not in the Telegraph mind.
Yes I did, and no they haven't!!
As I recall, during those "awkward periods" the Telegraph ran editorials justifying the removal of tax burdens on the wealthy .

Oft times - it is the news an outlet omits that informs one more.
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Message 82743 - Posted: 7 Nov 2017, 14:48:36 UTC - in response to Message 82676.  

I've always prided myself on being prepared to stand fup or what I believe in. Also in having no hidden agendas.
Aye, how many petabytes of private mail spool could be released if everyone didn't have hidden agenda's?
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