Go on then, there is plenty of need for it. Go have your discussions about the new man in the White House, in Germany, In The Netherlands, in Wherever.
This thread will not be moderated, so if you're having an all-out hair tearing competition, be my guest.

For the times I do read through the thread:
- No swearing whatsoever.
- No name calling the other guy you're in discussion with.
- No denigrating comments about other posters.
- Keep it civil.
- Want my devoted attention because you feel something does need to be taken out? Press the report post function (the red X) and let me know what's your problem with the post you report.

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Since many are looking but none are posting...
Let me start off by saying that I do hope that the Russians do not have any material to blackmail the new man in the White House. But say that they did, what would the options be to not have him in the White House in the first place? Or can you also impeach an president elect?

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Thank you, Jord! I do enjoy a good barge into politics from time to time and will watch my manners - almost all the time I'm not blinking ;)

I'm in the nervously-watching-from-the-sidelines section of the arena - if anyone needs me...

:)

edit: it might have helped if I'd mentioned on what precisely. Trump's imminent presidency is what

:)

IMHO BIG mistake, but it is yours to make :-)

Haven't a clue if the specific sex acts mentioned in the leak happened, that may be the over the top part.
BUT
Only a total idiot would not realize that the FSB has cameras and recording devices in every luxury hotel room in the country. Very likely as part of some business deal negotiation he was provided with a bribe in the form of services provided by female FSB agents. This is how Russia operates.

If verified, hopefully not by being posted on youtube, he should be denied access to any classified material. Unfortunately the 25th can't be used, and I don't know if a romp with a FSB agent qualifies as a high crime for impeachment. I just wonder how all the bible thumpers who supported him are going to react?

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Only a total idiot would not realize that the FSB has cameras and recording devices in every luxury hotel room in the country. Very likely as part of some business deal negotiation he was provided with a bribe in the form of services provided by female FSB agents. This is how Russia operates.

Is that any different from the C.I.A , M.I.6 , Mossad ( Mordici Vanunu ) etc operate in the world ? Doubt it very much , they all use the same tactics coz they are proven to work and get the results they want.
I've got the papers downloaded just ain't read them yet but could be very "interesting" if they are true

Well, regardless of what is going on over the pond, 2017 will be a great year if Geert Wilders win :-)

Even if he wins, he will never get enough seats in Parliament to rule. Polls have him at 35 seats at best, he'll need 76 to rule. Besides, we know that polls cannot be trusted, not after the US elections.

As for those shambles:

How to remove Trump from office

Donald Trump is a one-man basket of deplorables. He is a braggart and a liar. He is a bully and a demagogue. He is an ignoramus and a deadbeat, a chiseler and either a sincere racist or an insincere one, and his love for himself is matched only by my loathing of him. He is about to be president of the United States. A constitutional coup may be in the offing.

... It is folly to think that (Trump's) aides ... are going to be able to moderate Trump. They are enablers, emptying their consciences and stuffing their egos, and it is even sillier to think that Trump himself will change. He is 70, into the years of ossification, and his political triumph has only convinced him of his inerrant correctness. He thinks he is infallible, a kind of secular pope. Things will go from bad to worse.

... Under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution, the vice president, together with a “majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide” can remove the president for being “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.”

... But it is plain that the 25th Amendment does give a role to Cabinet members that is not generally considered when they are up for confirmation. This time, however, they should all be asked whether they are aware of the 25th Amendment and, if need be, whether they would be willing to implement it. Some would say that they do not respond to hypotheticals, but a willingness to abide by the Constitution is not a hypothetical. It is, instead, a grave duty.

(Source)

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I know that Jord but I want to see the pillocks in the EU/EC shaken, then stirred, then washed down the nearest sewer.

And the next installment from the Meryl Streep fan club is.....................

Don't know about that but, exciting times ahead

Don't know about that but, exciting times ahead

Well, if you want to watch a self serving elitist snob carrying on, talking like she and her actor friends are speaking for the entire USA, google Meryl Streep Golden Globe speech.
You'd think she was Daenerys Targaryen speaking down to the unsullied masses from on high as their redeemer.

I've seen it. I never listen to anything political coming out of Hollywood. All I want to hear or see from them are good films.

I've seen it. I never listen to anything political coming out of Hollywood. All I want to hear or see from them are good films.

And that is exactly what Meryl Streep should have stuck to. She is a talented actress.

Donald Trump, European populists are a 'profound threat' to human rights, Human Rights Watch reports

The election of Donald Trump as president of the United States and the rise of populist leaders in Europe poses a "profound threat" to human rights, the US-based Human Rights Watch has warned in its annual global report.

The 687-page report reviews human rights practices in more than 90 countries.

"Trump and various politicians in Europe seek power through appeals to racism, xenophobia, misogyny and nativism," Ken Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch, said.

"The rise of populism poses a profound threat to human rights.

I've seen it. I never listen to anything political coming out of Hollywood. All I want to hear or see from them are good films.

Unfortunately most of their product is HollyCRAP. Wouldn't dream of taking any advice from a pair liar, er actor. But I don't herd well.
<ed>Also don't to self aggrandizement shows.

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They do some good ones like "The Martian".

Any chance NASA can send:
Obama
Trump
Clintons
Merkel
Schauble
Juncker
Tusk
Hollande
Putin

To Mars & have the landing craft blow up after they've build a habitat for themselves?

You forgot Blair in your list there surely he has earned a place alongside the others but baby Bush would have to go to coz Blairs head was so far up his ar#e

You forgot Blair in your list there surely he has earned a place alongside the others but baby Bush would have to go to coz Blairs head was so far up his ar#e

Naw, he's been earmarked for a permanent position in the "London Dungeons". :-)

Naw, he's been earmarked for a permanent position in the "London Dungeons". :-)

Ok then what about Comrade Corbyn and Tim Fallon , do know nobody has heard of the last name there ;-)