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Message 64944 - Posted: 18 Oct 2015, 21:30:58 UTC

Recently, I put a comment (as below, in between two lines of "=======") in a thread and I was told to put it in a separate thread, so here it is:-

Some years ago, I bought a Samsung N220 laptop, with Windows 7 (Home version) on it, for general use - I updated it to 2048 MB RAM, the maximum allowed. I added some BOINC programs to it and everything seemed fine.

Recently I updated the laptop to Windows 10 and found that without BOINC even installed, the laptop was running at 60% of memory. With BOINC (latest version) installed it was using 95%. Other than BOINC nothing else should be running, other than background tasks, but looking at the laptop's Task Manager a lot of stuff seems to be running. I suppose my solution would be to buy a larger memory-sized laptop (any good ones around?), or to go back to Windows 7 - any suggestions?

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Would be interested in a solution to this Windows 10 problem.

As currently using a Laptop (Samsung N220), Max RAM 2048MB, which is installed. BOINC worked perfectly ok with Windows 7, now with Windows 10, it uses 95% of RAM & sometimes hangs up.

Maybe it would be easiest if you started a new topic for that problem, as it seems quite different from the "always in use" problem here.

Then, plenty of additional information of your system would be needed also. Do you want to completely dedicate that laptop for BOINC usage? If so... the computer could be setup in a bit different way. Maybe there is useless things running at the background at the moment. Maybe something there could be cleaned up or stopped from wasting CPU time and eating memory.
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Message 64945 - Posted: 18 Oct 2015, 22:53:18 UTC

Some additional questions...

1. What projects and which applications exactly would you like that laptop to run? What projects and applications was it running while it still had Windows 7 ? Different applications require different amounts of RAM. I'm sure there is some "light" work available that your laptop would be able to run much more easily than some "heavy" applications.

You said "looking at the laptop's Task Manager a lot of stuff seems to be running.".

2. Would you be able to upload pictures that show all the running processes? A view from the Task Manager... or Process Explorer (https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx) would do fine. That would help to judge what is using the RAM. Maybe there is some useless bloatware running and we could turn them off. That would help that laptop to breathe.

3. Do you need that laptop also for "general use" at the moment? If not, then there might be a chance to use a heavier hand for disabling or cleaning up Windows settings and other than BOINC-related processes.
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Message 65088 - Posted: 26 Oct 2015, 18:21:27 UTC - in response to Message 64945.  

Thanks for your reply, I did download the link you sent me, which was useful.

I think most of the rise in memory use, I will have to live with. However, the main problem seems to be with the Einstein Home Screensaver, as can be seen in this link - http://www.johnfairweather42.webspace.virginmedia.com/Einstein_ScreenSaver.jpg

Somehow it seems to have been corrupted, after I installed Windows 10, not sure why.
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Message 65089 - Posted: 26 Oct 2015, 18:38:52 UTC - in response to Message 64944.  
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Some years ago, I bought a Samsung N220 laptop, with Windows 7 (Home version) on it, for general use - I updated it to 2048 MB RAM, the maximum allowed. I added some BOINC programs to it and everything seemed fine.

For clarification, a Samsung N220 isn't a Laptop, But a Netbook, powered by an Intel Atom N450 processor, I have one myself, It is hardly the speediest thing out there.

26/10/2015 18:31:31 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86
26/10/2015 18:31:32 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
26/10/2015 18:31:32 Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
26/10/2015 18:31:32 Running under account Stephen
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N450 @ 1.66GHz [Family 6 Model 28 Stepping 10]
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Processor: 512.00 KB cache
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 nx lm tm2 movebe pbe
26/10/2015 18:31:33 OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Starter x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Memory: 1.99 GB physical, 3.98 GB virtual
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Disk: 108.89 GB total, 41.67 GB free
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Local time is UTC +0 hours


Please post your Boinc startup from the Event Log.

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Message 65090 - Posted: 26 Oct 2015, 18:59:42 UTC - in response to Message 65089.  

Currently, I can't see it - which log file, should I expect to see the details?

(Well, I bought the Netbook in 2010, it probably needs updating now?)

Some years ago, I bought a Samsung N220 laptop, with Windows 7 (Home version) on it, for general use - I updated it to 2048 MB RAM, the maximum allowed. I added some BOINC programs to it and everything seemed fine.

For clarification, a Samsung N220 isn't a Laptop, But a Netbook, powered by an Intel Atom N450 processor, I have one myself, It is hardly the speediest thing out there.

26/10/2015 18:31:31 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86
26/10/2015 18:31:32 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
26/10/2015 18:31:32 Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
26/10/2015 18:31:32 Running under account Stephen
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N450 @ 1.66GHz [Family 6 Model 28 Stepping 10]
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Processor: 512.00 KB cache
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 nx lm tm2 movebe pbe
26/10/2015 18:31:33 OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Starter x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Memory: 1.99 GB physical, 3.98 GB virtual
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Disk: 108.89 GB total, 41.67 GB free
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Local time is UTC +0 hours


Please post your Boinc startup from the Event Log.

Claggy

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Message 65091 - Posted: 26 Oct 2015, 21:02:16 UTC - in response to Message 65090.  

Currently, I can't see it - which log file, should I expect to see the details?

Ctrl+Shift+E or Tools > Event Log.

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Message 65092 - Posted: 26 Oct 2015, 21:31:16 UTC - in response to Message 65090.  

Was looking in the wrong place originally -
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26/10/2015 21:22:04 | | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
26/10/2015 21:22:05 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.9 for windows_intelx86
26/10/2015 21:22:05 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
26/10/2015 21:22:05 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.39.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2a zlib/1.2.8
26/10/2015 21:22:05 | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
26/10/2015 21:22:05 | | Running under account User
26/10/2015 21:22:06 | | No usable GPUs found
26/10/2015 21:22:06 | | Host name: User-PC
26/10/2015 21:22:06 | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N450 @ 1.66GHz [Family 6 Model 28 Stepping 10]
26/10/2015 21:22:06 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 movebe nx lm tm2 pbe
26/10/2015 21:22:06 | | OS: Microsoft Windows 10: Core x86 Edition, (10.00.10240.00)
26/10/2015 21:22:06 | | Memory: 1.99 GB physical, 5.61 GB virtual
26/10/2015 21:22:06 | | Disk: 458.20 GB total, 407.21 GB free
26/10/2015 21:22:06 | | Local time is UTC +0 hours
26/10/2015 21:22:06 | | VirtualBox version: 4.3.12
26/10/2015 21:22:06 | Asteroids@home | URL http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/; Computer ID 66728; resource share 100
26/10/2015 21:22:06 | climateprediction.net | URL http://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID 1317540; resource share 100

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Currently, I can't see it - which log file, should I expect to see the details?

(Well, I bought the Netbook in 2010, it probably needs updating now?)

Some years ago, I bought a Samsung N220 laptop, with Windows 7 (Home version) on it, for general use - I updated it to 2048 MB RAM, the maximum allowed. I added some BOINC programs to it and everything seemed fine.

For clarification, a Samsung N220 isn't a Laptop, But a Netbook, powered by an Intel Atom N450 processor, I have one myself, It is hardly the speediest thing out there.

26/10/2015 18:31:31 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86
26/10/2015 18:31:32 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
26/10/2015 18:31:32 Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
26/10/2015 18:31:32 Running under account Stephen
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N450 @ 1.66GHz [Family 6 Model 28 Stepping 10]
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Processor: 512.00 KB cache
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 nx lm tm2 movebe pbe
26/10/2015 18:31:33 OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Starter x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Memory: 1.99 GB physical, 3.98 GB virtual
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Disk: 108.89 GB total, 41.67 GB free
26/10/2015 18:31:33 Local time is UTC +0 hours


Please post your Boinc startup from the Event Log.

Claggy

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Message 65128 - Posted: 28 Oct 2015, 21:03:58 UTC - in response to Message 65088.  

I think most of the rise in memory use, I will have to live with. However, the main problem seems to be with the Einstein Home Screensaver, as can be seen in this link - http://www.johnfairweather42.webspace.virginmedia.com/Einstein_ScreenSaver.jpg

Somehow it seems to have been corrupted, after I installed Windows 10, not sure why.

That happens a lot on my Windows 7 machine as well. It hasn't seemed to affect any of the results, however; they are still completed and validated without incident.
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