But I can't see why anyone would think proprietary things are good. Compatibility is always good.

Peter when used properly Cuda is more efficient than open CL.

Compatibility is always slow?

Richard IIRC wasn't that part of the Raistmer/Jason Gee blow up some years ago?

AMD had their own, it was called CAL. But they threw it out in favour of OpenCL, so there wasn't need for developing two different programming languages. Nvidia chose to develop their CUDA heavily and left OpenCL at a standstill, which is why even today some of their top models only have OpenCL 1.2 support, while OpenCL is at version 2.2

But none of that matters, because OpenCL (and OpenGL) is at the end of its lifetime, we're all going to use Vulkan next. And that has nothing to do with Start Trek.

I never said it was faster, although it's leaner than OpenGL as far as I understand it. As for the Wikipedia page, you read the first sentence, right? "Vulkan is a low-overhead, cross-platform 3D graphics and computing API", with computing pointing to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compute_kernel, the exact stuff our GPUs are doing under CUDA, OpenCL (and in some extent DirectCompute from Microsoft). And read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulkan_(API)#Planned_features

So leaner means? Less RAM usage?

Mostly lower overhead so, but also less bloatedness, as the video card drivers don't need AND OpenCL AND OpenGL components, but can just do with Vulkan.

So leaner means? Less RAM usage?

Mostly lower overhead so, but also less bloatedness, as the video card drivers don't need AND OpenCL AND OpenGL components, but can just do with Vulkan.

But will Vulcan run games which require OpenGL? If not, the driver will still need that present.

VulKan, (NOT VulCan), is/will be used in Windows and Linux.

Apple has developed "Metal" and "Metal2" for MacOS. Vulkan WILL NOT run on MacOS.... (Even though the PC Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX-580 Card and the Mac Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX-580 Card are PHYSICALLY Identical.)

IF one has Dual Boot on a Mac, (both Windows and MacOS), the GPU under Windows would use Vulkan and under MacOS use Metal/Metal2.
The only caveat for MacOS is the High Sierra 10.13.x Operating System under which one MAY choose to use NVIDIA Pascal Cards,
(10x0 Models), and in High Sierra the Pascal Cards CAN make use of CUDA, (under the 418.163 NVIDIA CUDA Driver), or OpenCL
under the NVIDIA Web Driver - the Latest is 387.10.10.10.40.135. Pascal Cards DO NOT function under Mojave NOR Catalina. So,
IF one, on MacOS, wants the Latest OS AND a modern PCI-e GPU or e-GPU then one MUST use AMD/ATI Cards.

The functionality, (as I understand it), of Vulkan and Metal/Metal2 are equivalent. Vulkan is PC and Metal/Metal2 is MacOS.

[EDIT:]

OpenCL, and OpenGL WILL still function for Games. As Jord said; however, these protocols are near or at End-Of-Life. Apple under MacOS has already
deprecated OpenCL though it still functions under Mojave and Catalina.

As Vulkan and Metal/Metal2 become more prevalent and mainstream, OpenCL and OpenGL will go from being just deprecated to UNUSED/Killed Off.


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Join Calm Chaos
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All preparations for the move done. I'm way ahead of schedule. Moving the 14th, now everything is boxed already.
Tuesday I get the keys.
Thursday they'll put the floor in.
Can't wait.

Only my floor.. I'm laying everything else myself, including all cabling for all my devices. And been packing up for the past week and a half, all alone. All those so called friends who always said they would help.... haven't seen anyone.

Well, there is a floor in my new apartment, but it's just a raw concrete floor. So I'll have someone lay a nice laminate floor into it. Walks a little better.

I hate laminate. Carpet is softer to walk on.

Carpet and computers don't mix. Static electricity up the whazoo.

And you can fit laminate yourself, you're so lazy :-P

Actually, I cannot. I tried in a room in this apartment and the result isn't nice, it took me 3 days to do that room and it's just 8 square meters. I'm not going to do a whole 54 square meter apartment as then the floor won't be ready when the movers come.

And would you believe it, I actually managed to get a post deleted from in here! The chat forum!

Congrats. Now you belong to the club (of bad bad people). :P

I put something called deluxe vinyl flooring in my kitchen. It is a tongue and groove cork wood. It looks and feels like the real thing and is more durable, 30yr warranty for residential, 15yrs for commercial.