I very nearly resorted to starving it of power but after a couple of attempts of doing that alt stuff, I've managed it - with a pose stolen from Amadeus. Yes. For which I am very very grateful. In fact, it's just as well Mozart was born or I might never have done it at all. No :)

I'm back this time because it may have slipped my mind to thank you both for your advice...?

You know how when a tune starts up in your head totally at random, it tends to get stuck there?

Well that's happened.

You know how when a tune starts up in your head totally at random, it tends to get stuck there?

Well that's happened.

There is only one thing that can dislodge a song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdmOVejUlI Another song.

There is only one thing that can dislodge a song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdmOVejUlI Another song.

Ohhhhhhh good one. Yes.

*filthy blink*

I was only being maddened a little bit before. Mostly, because I was wondering what the original lyrics of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrsNT8lx_cs were more than anything - so my head could get some variety. Now I don't care. Not even a teeny bit. No.

And as for that ten hour thing, I almost noticed that immediately after twenty minutes.

You know how when a tune starts up in your head totally at random, it tends to get stuck there?

Well that's happened.

Me too, my cousin introduced me to her friend Cecilia.

Only the 2nd one I have met, the other lived up to her initials C.Y.N. by getting a RC priest to give up his vows and marry her.

Me too, my cousin introduced me to her friend Cecilia.

That one works well. It's got that built in feature of flaunting your knowledge that there are other S&G songs to switch to - whilst encrypting all ability to access a single note or lyric from them the harder you try to. I'd say thank you if I felt like being polite, I really really would...

;)

Only the 2nd one I have met, the other lived up to her initials C.Y.N. by getting a RC priest to give up his vows and marry her.

...and marry her but not to someone else? That's quite an impressive achievement which I hope has made them both very happy :)

Only the 2nd one I have met, the other lived up to her initials C.Y.N. by getting a RC priest to give up his vows and marry her.

Seen something kind like that. The church I used to go to. The Baptist preacher got a women of "Jewish" faith to give it up to take up "Christianity" and believe in Jesus as her way to heaven.

Beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep, Holly "what's that beep?", beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep, me "it's the NAS", beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep.

Logging in on the NAS::Your volume has degraded, go to Storage Manager and click Repair.
Storage Manager - Drive Manager - Hard Drives. Ah, drive number two isn't recognized anymore and runs at 130 degrees centigrade!!
Uncouples drive from NAS. Cleans NAS on the inside and outside, cleans drives. Puts drive back into the NAS. That doesn't fix things.

So later today I'll drive to Breda to spend €130,- on a new Seagate IronWolf 4TB drive to replace this one.
Tuesday I'll RMA this drive to Seagate as I still have warranty on it. I cannot wait 14 days or more for the replacement drive to come back.
It'll mean we'll have to download some stuff for tonight, as all the stuff we wanted to see tonight is on the NAS and with the array degraded, it's inaccessible. Repairing the volume will take several days, I'm sure (5.8TB of data in RAID5 form.)

Oh well.

Hope your end-of-year-day runs better. :-)
Happy New Year, all.

Oh Poo Sticks :-(
Re-synching a 5Tb RAID will not be a quick operation, how slow really does depend on how it is configured and how good the software is......
Good luck - and it's good to see you back in you seat.

0.8% = 37h 30m
0.9% = ranging from 32h 08m to 36h 08m
1.0% reached in 15 minutes.

I see where this is going. In the region of 25 - 30 hours then.

Edit: by the way, big points for Zyxel, who made my NAS.
The last time I had a hard drive fail in the Shuttle NAS, we lost the whole array due to only being able to do RAID0 or RAID1.
Now at least with RAID5 we could lose a drive. Let's hope it's the only one, although all of the remaining Seagates are under warranty until October 2018.

Oh well.

Hope your end-of-year-day runs better. :-)
Happy New Year, all.

And to you and yours and all who wander by. :-)

My cat has broken and/or dislocated his leg :((

He suddenly, out of the blue, suffered a guilty conscience and fell off the top of the grill, or rather most of him did and there's a lot of that. The bit that didn't, slipped into a vent between the business part of the grill and the front anti-eyebrow-singing part, and instead of letting me assist him out of his predicament, he decided he was still going to try and make it look like he'd been nowhere near the scene of the crime - which is when things turned pear-shaped.

@Jord: has the thing that went wrong been resolved? I understood everything I really did - but only until the beeping ended. I do hope so.

Poor kitty-cat. When Wokkel falls, she'll also always try to be suave about it, you didn't know what you saw human, pictures or it didn't happen!
So now what? Is he to use a splint? And extra personnel to cater for all his wishes? :)

The NAS is still rebuilding the array, we're at 98.3%.
Seagate in the mean time has given me an RMA number, they agree that a drive showing at 111C/232F at room temp of 17.8C is broken. Even if all the rest of the tests say it isn't.

Well great. The RAID5 array has rebuilt itself, it shows as healthy, 5.8TB of 10.73TB in use. The only thing is, we only see the admin and music directories, none of the others are visible or can be approached. I've posted to the Zyxel forums for help on that and refuse to believe we've actually lost all that stuff on there. It's a good thing we're both down with severe head colds and loss of voice, appetite and just about anything. It's a bad thing as well, as now we don't have anything to watch.

Ouch. For the past several years, I've been contemplating raid but seeing yours as well as others issues with it, I prefer to continue as I am. 12x 2 bay NAS boxes with 2TB drives in each in JBOD mode. Only 4 boxes are powered up & connected to my network giving me 16TB for films & TV series. The other 8 are connected but not powered up. They are double backups of the 4 that are on.

As they are several years old, 2TB is the most they can handle so if the firmware fails on them, I'm stuffed as the Sumvision boxes are no longer made. The D-link models have been upgraded but they're fairly pricey, but saying that they have brought out a 4 bay model which is tempting :-)

Poor kitty-cat. When Wokkel falls, she'll also always try to be suave about it, you didn't know what you saw human, pictures or it didn't happen!
So now what? Is he to use a splint? And extra personnel to cater for all his wishes? :)

Yes - a splint for the break and a sort of bandage-sling thing for the joint. Fortunately he's the most laid-back pusscat I've ever come across... you know... the kind that wakes up just to roll over and reach a new exhaustion level deserving of another nap on their other side. He also loves curling around feet to purr a lot and having his tummy tickled, so he should be relatively easy to keep entertained whilst trussed up.

I think that's why they're keeping him in another night to be honest - because he'll purr for anyone, anytime :)

Are your head colds any better? I thought I was getting one but it just turned into a cough all by itself *demonstrate* like that one.

I'm glad you know what Jord is talking about, Sirius :) The more stuff that needs plugging in in order to watch something makes me inclined to not to and renders me mostly useless in these sort of crises.

Are your head colds any better?

Holly's without voice. I am with 39.2C fever.
We're getting by. :)

I broke the NAS some more, on purpose, so it's rebuilding again.
Eventually I'll try to log in with Linux, see if that can find some of the missing stuff. It would be nice to get all the films back.
I have backups of most of the series that are difficult to get. And the rest of the series, we just took a Netflix subscription for (the UHD one, as my TV is UHD and it has this big Netflix button. :)); login in was a bit awkward, but Netflix has now taken over our TV. :-)

Now I'll try to get rid of my present internet/TV/telephone subscription and just get Internet/telephone for that.

So while making room for possible backups, I found that someone had downloaded a bit of an illegal version of R-Studio 5 years ago onto the TV server, which I now installed and am scanning the NAS with. It's found lots and lots of file fragments and directories. Light may be glowing at the end of the tunnel. Sometimes it's good to have a flu, that way you don't drastically do stupid things like removing the Volume on the NAS. :)

We have made a decision on what's going back on there, though.
Since the first time with a NAS we lost all our data when a drive broke (RAID1) and now we're in dire straits after a drive broke (RAID5), I'll be going for 4 separate volumes on the flip side, make them network drives. If then one of those drives fails, we haven't lost all our data, just the data on that drive.

Plus since we have Netflix now, a lot of the films and series we had are on there, so we don't have to download those anymore. No longer doing Netflix through the TV, we're doing it through the computer next to the TV, as that's where the 5.1 sound system is connected to. Besides, at UHD format Netflix can put away 7GB of data per hour, our WIFI couldn't handle that. The computer is 1000 Mbit wired and thus better capable.

We have made a decision on what's going back on there, though.
Since the first time with a NAS we lost all our data when a drive broke (RAID1) and now we're in dire straits after a drive broke (RAID5), I'll be going for 4 separate volumes on the flip side, make them network drives. If then one of those drives fails, we haven't lost all our data, just the data on that drive.

What's the capacity of those 4 drives?

Just a suggestion:

For example, if they're 2tb & as NAS boxes are fairly expensive, Also, if within your finances, why not get 2 4tb & put then in external usb3 enclosures & back up all 4 drives.

What's the capacity of those 4 drives?

As I said, it had 5.8TB of 10.73TB in use. I also said that I would turn this into 4 separate volumes when we're redoing things. So a quick guess would've brought you at least 4TB per drive. ;-)
(and yes, the loss is that much in a RAID5, going from 16TB to a mere 10.73TB)

3 Seagate, one WD. All 4TB per.
I just got confirmation from Seagate that they've sent me a replacement drive for the one I sent them. A same one as I already put in there.
I think I'll go change out the WD then and make all drives in the NAS Seagate. Then it's two NAS drives (ST4000VN000) and two of the newer versions IronWolf (ST4000VN008). Those run cooler than their predecessors as well. The WD always ran hottest of all (50C under load), so I'lll move that one to my desk for backup purposes.

Also decided not to go do difficult and disconnect all my drives bar my Windows one, then connect all those drives and try and see if I can recover any data from it. I think it's easier to reformat and restart.