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BOINC Manager :
Connection Problems
(Message 2107)
Posted 20 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: BOINC-FR (Help in French). |
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BOINC Manager :
Pete [blckw9228@aol.com)
(Message 2071)
Posted 19 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: If you suspect a communication problem there is advice in the BOINC-Wiki. But do check the SETI board for current news. As you are running Einstein, BOINC itself seems to be OK. |
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BOINC Manager :
Switch Application on completion of Work Unit?
(Message 2047)
Posted 18 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: While I don't see this whole thing as a problem, it _is_ irritating to see a result at 99% or even 100% that is switched out, not to finally be finished for several hours (running several projects...) THAT is the part that I would be most interested in having fixed; "if % done > 98, don't switch unless something else is in deadline trouble". I remember a debate on a CPDN board, back in the BOINC beta days when some of us were wondering how this multi project thing was going to work, when precisely this problem came up. It seemed to me then one of the biggest objections to time slicing. Strange to think that was only back in 2004 :) The whole business of project switching has proved to be every bit as difficult as we thought. |
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BOINC Manager :
2 copies of BOINC manager on startup?!
(Message 2039)
Posted 17 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: There is a thread on this same problem here. Have a look and please come back to the board when you have eliminated the possibilities described there. It would be helpful to identify the cause for the benefit of others. |
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BOINC Manager :
When screensaver starts, BOINC shows suspended.
(Message 2011)
Posted 16 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: There is one thing to check first. Under 'general preferences' in your account (you will need to go to a project site for these) do you have 'do work whilst computer is in use' set to 'no'? If that is the case, compare that with the delay before the screensaver kicks in. For example, if you had the BOINC delay set to 6 minutes, and the screensaver to 5 minutes, then you would get this. |
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BOINC Manager :
BOINC doesn't work
(Message 1951)
Posted 15 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: To Andrew. What project board? All I see on the BOINC page is the BOINC message boards on the lower left, and then this one is the first in the list. OK. BOINC can be confusing when you meet it for the first time, and perhaps there is a need to explain more clearly where to go for help. The projects are listed at the top of the BOINC home page, and you will find that each of them have Question and Problem boards not unlike this. I didn't point to any particular one because I wasn't sure which project you were trying to join. I'm sorry if you didn't find the SETI one much help - it suffers sometimes from its own success, so there are a lot of different questions and arguments all the time. The other place to go for guidance is the BOINC-Wiki, but the drawback is that if you can't make head or tail of that either there is no-one to shout for help to there. But there are some walk throughs. |
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BOINC Manager :
Boinc Manager loads twice on Windows start
(Message 1945)
Posted 15 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: Windows does this sometimes. The reason may be that there are usually at least two startup folders. One for 'all users', the other for your personal account. Another might be that you have it installed as a service as well as it being in a startup folder. If you would like someone to walk you through it, ask and some kind soul will probably oblige :) |
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BOINC Manager :
BOINC doesn't work
(Message 1935)
Posted 15 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: The other piece of advice I can offer is to try the project boards first when in doubt. This board can be intimidating because it is concerned with technical issues to do with particular parts of the software. Using the project boards has several advantages. One is that you don't need to know which bit is going wrong - describe your problem and let others worry about that. Another is that on the project boards other people can look at some details of your account, such as what sort of computer and operating system you have, and whether there are any application errors logged by the server. A third is that there are more people around, some of whom will have had the same difficulties, and you may find the answers there already. |
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BOINC Manager :
My Boinc is dead !
(Message 1810)
Posted 12 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: This can be frustrating. But the message from other people has been that it often solves itself unexpectedly, and is probably happening because another device is using the port BOINC is trying to use. My suggestion is to try removing the 'load on startup' option, disable the modem if you have one while you are starting BOINC, try another reboot. And if it is still not working, wait a few days and see if they have released a new version with a fix for the problem. |
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BOINC Manager :
Xbox 360 BOINC
(Message 1712)
Posted 9 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: Even if the hardware were up to it, Climateprediction certainly would not go down that path because of the size and complexity of their program. Other projects would have to judge whether it was worth the effort of trying. Only then would it be worth adapting the BOINC client. If MS happened to have spare programmers with nothing else to do, and wanted to use them for an altruistic purpose because I don't see it stacking up commercially, then perhaps it would be something to explore. But even then, I suspect that the projects would think of other ways to use the help. The projects are usually struggling for help and resources as it is. |
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BOINC Manager :
Admin rights
(Message 1689)
Posted 8 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: I sympathise, but this isn't really a BOINC, or even Windows, issue alone. If it is your own computer, there isn't a problem. If it is somebody else's, they have a right to restrict what use you make of it. They (usually your employers) may be unreasonable, irrational, bureaucratic, oppressive, and everything else, but that is the way it is. The conditions for installing BOINC, and for attaching to some or all of the projects, are that you respect that. As for what happened under SETI classic, this was one of the weaknesses that BOINC had to address. |
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BOINC Manager :
Mysterious error 500 still with me
(Message 1685)
Posted 8 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: One of the things that David Anderson did when designing BOINC, from his experience with SETI@H classic, was to make it much more tolerant of times when the servers were down. Another was to make it multi-project, so that there should always be at least one able to supply work. From memory there is a problem if BOINC has been unable to upload work after two weeks of trying, but the software may have been amended since then. At any rate, if you check the SETI site from time to time you will be told the situation, and there is no point in worrying about it. |
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BOINC Manager :
Help starting up
(Message 1677)
Posted 8 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: I'm sure we'll be able to sort out whatever is troubling you. The same goes for any project. To point out the obvious to everyone else, newcomers often come here when they would be much better off on the project BOINC message boards. This is for several reasons: 1. Other people can see some details of your account and computers (unless you hide them). That often makes it much easier to offer advice (for example you cannot use Win98/ME with climateprediction, so people can diagnose that problem immediately). 2. Some problems and solutions are project specific. 3. There tend to be more people around able to help. You may also find the answer to your problem already, saving you the trouble of posting. |
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BOINC client :
OS X, BOINC v4.43 and dylib loading problems
(Message 1588)
Posted 6 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: It would be as well to post in Mac Q&P of the climateprediction board. The team have just released a new version of the application for Macs but I note one user reports continued problems. The need for a library install is posted on the site in various places, including the downloads section, and it was a news item in September. But not everyone will have seen these. |
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BOINC Manager :
explanation of 'credit'
(Message 1545)
Posted 5 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: Another approach to getting a different project is climateprediction. Those workunits take a very long time - well over 1,000 hours however fast your machine. So it is not sensible if you don't want to dedicate much machine time to the project, though you can spend a year, or even more, completing it. But the advantage is that you will not run out of work, so that you will always have something your computer can be doing even if your internet connection, or the project server, is down. Credits don't have to wait for you to complete the workunit, or validation, or any of the other things that worry SETI users, and are granted on the regular 'trickles' your computer sends to the server. |
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BOINC Manager :
where do I get my account key from?
(Message 1544)
Posted 5 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: The best place to look for help on all aspects of BOINC is the BOINC-Wiki. For example, this page explains how to get the account key which will be in an email from the project. For further help on anything you don't understand it is usually best to go to the boards for that project. But by all means post here if there are general questions about BOINC which you still cannot resolve. |
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BOINC Manager :
Insufficient disk space?
(Message 1508)
Posted 4 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: The write to disk interval is a bit misleading anyway, as this BOINC-Wiki article on checkpointing explains. |
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BOINC Manager :
Preempted projects
(Message 1507)
Posted 4 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: I agree with Bill about this. What people may not understand, but relates to this, is that if you do not want to leave applications in memory you really must opt to spend a fairly long time on each application. Preferably much more than an hour, and certainly longer than the few minutes that some prefer. The reason for that is that applications have fixed save points or none at all. Sometimes you can defer them, so that you save less often, but you cannot tell the application to save to disk at the point you have got to when you switch. Only leaving the application in memory can let you carry on from there, so removing from memory will almost always mean some loss of work. The only way to reduce that is to swap less often. People who do have a problem leaving several applications in memory might like to consider doing no more than two projects at a time. The BOINC Manager offers easy ways of of controlling this - especially setting a project to get no more work, to run down the cache, and using the suspend button to determine which projects will be active. So you can still be participating in several projects, but not every day, and it may well be that leaving the application in memory will not then be a problem. |
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BOINC Manager :
Connection Fails at PC startup - No BOINC Retry
(Message 1489)
Posted 3 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: (this is boinc version 5.2.8) I'd definitely try an upgrade. It may still not work, but there were some fixes applied after that version. |
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BOINC client :
Resource share not regarded when requesting new work?
(Message 1478)
Posted 2 Dec 2005 by Andrew Hingston Post: Well, maybe I haven't understood but it looks good to me. I approach this from the perspective of a climateprediction user, and every project has different imperatives. We are hoping for a boost to BOINC in the UK in February in association with a television programme about climate change, and that will bring people who know nothing of SETI or of running multi-project. Complex options, or kludges designed to stop people overloading the Berkeley server, will baffle them. So far as climateprediction is concerned, caches are looking more and more irrelevant. At present the project is not offering the basic slab models that some impatient people with faster machines were managing to polish off in under three weeks, and some of us with the most powerful processors are currently doing work on WUs that will finish in March or April. Even the others have been given WUs that require well over 1,000 hours on any machine. The point there is that the issue is not keeping the computer fed with work, but determining when BOINC should report on progress. For those with an always on connection, we don't want it to wait but do so without fuss, whether that is every hour or less often. For dial-up users, on the other hand, so long as the user checks in every month or so to say that the WU is still live, it does not really matter that there are progress files waiting to upload. What the user wants and needs is for BOINC to be able to upload when they are online, and to keep quiet when they are not. The exception is at the end of a run. There is a problem there, because the user does need a prompt that the work is coming to an end and more is needed, but it might also be helpful after the run is complete and the final results are waiting to upload. If we forget the latter, the question 'how many days work do you want?' isn't very helpful or useful. Whatever the answer, the user will get lots. But I've no better idea. |
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