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Message 55132 - Posted: 29 Jul 2014, 21:22:53 UTC

Where did that project go? Couldn't access their website or my project account today. Well, I just joined this project and I'm sure there's nothing dramatic going on. Maybe it's even normal the site is offline from time to time.

For me, it just feels nice to give some amateur helping hand with testing things under development, even if there's not always WU's available.
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Message 55133 - Posted: 29 Jul 2014, 21:52:14 UTC - in response to Message 55132.  

Well, they have been threatening to update/upgrade to their new Drupal pages for ages now, perhaps that they finally done so and it broke things?

Although Einstein got a security update, perhaps that Albert did as well, and that broke things. I asked about it in that thread.
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Message 55135 - Posted: 29 Jul 2014, 22:04:24 UTC - in response to Message 55133.  
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Yes, it was pre-announced that the long-delayed Drupal conversion would be taking place this week - but unfortunately it was only pre-announced on the pages you can't now see. They did say that they would try to keep the underlying BOINC processes running throughout the upgrade - after all, the Drupal layer is only a GUI - but I've taken my personal load off the server, so I can't confirm how well they've succeeded.

Edit - found this in the notice feed on one of my machines:

Here we go again: Drupal migration now scheduled for July 28th
Hi everyone,

After ironing out all kinks caused by the server code upgrade aftermath, we think that we're now finally in a position to migrate our website (albert) to Drupal. The original announcement can be found in this thread (it's still applicable).

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Ugh. Why couldn't I simply copy and paste that from the BOINC Manager display?
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Message 55136 - Posted: 29 Jul 2014, 22:24:21 UTC - in response to Message 55135.  

Ugh. Why couldn't I simply copy and paste that from the BOINC Manager display?

So now you 'simply' copied and pasted it from \BOINC\notices\archive_albert.phys.uwm.edu_rss_main.php.xml, then you slightly adjusted it for phpBB code, right? :)

(hopes you didn't type it all over...)
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Message 55137 - Posted: 29 Jul 2014, 22:33:20 UTC - in response to Message 55135.  

Ok. Thanks for all that info!

They did say that they would try to keep the underlying BOINC processes running throughout the upgrade


I'm not sure if I understood right, but if you ment WU's running at the moment... it seems that completed work can't be uploaded at the moment. And scheduler isn't sending any work in either.
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Message 55138 - Posted: 29 Jul 2014, 22:49:54 UTC - in response to Message 55136.  

Ugh. Why couldn't I simply copy and paste that from the BOINC Manager display?

So now you 'simply' copied and pasted it from \BOINC\notices\archive_albert.phys.uwm.edu_rss_main.php.xml, then you slightly adjusted it for phpBB code, right? :)

(hopes you didn't type it all over...)

Yup, something like that.

Unfortunately, the 'archive' file doesn't contain the previous announcement from thread 9009. What sort of an archive is that?
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Message 55139 - Posted: 29 Jul 2014, 23:04:07 UTC - in response to Message 55138.  

Unfortunately, the 'archive' file doesn't contain the previous announcement from thread 9009. What sort of an archive is that?

As far as I know, these files only store past messages of up to 30 days ago.
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Message 55140 - Posted: 29 Jul 2014, 23:06:02 UTC - in response to Message 55137.  

... it seems that completed work can't be uploaded at the moment. And scheduler isn't sending any work in either.

No, the project is effectively down. And since it's the middle of the night in Hanover, I wouldn't expect it to be back until some time tomorrow, at the least. Depends on what problems they've run into.
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Message 55146 - Posted: 30 Jul 2014, 6:42:46 UTC

Albert@Home is down due to the conversion to Drupal. Unfortunately we found that we couldn't keep the web server running during conversion, affecting not only the web pages, but also scheduler, upload etc. Albert@Home doesn't have a dedicated DB server, we need basically all resources on that machine for converting the BOINC DB (user, forums) tables to the Drupal DB. If all goes well this time, Albert@Home will be back up later today; however we already had a few unsuccessful conversion attempts (each taking ~12h). More likely it will take until tomorrow.

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Message 55224 - Posted: 5 Aug 2014, 1:12:36 UTC

Is there any update? Still unreachable. Not authorized to access.
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Message 55228 - Posted: 5 Aug 2014, 15:58:44 UTC

Oliver Bock wrote:
Hi guys,

In short: we're very close!

Sorry, for the longer downtime of Albert. Despite careful upfront testing and planning we ran into a few issues during the migration. Would it have been Einstein, we'd have scrapped the migration attempt after two days already. Given that this is Albert though we took the freedom to ride out the storm and fix the issues right away. The biggest challenge are the different time zones (CEST and EST) which cause extra delays in communication.

Anyhow, we're currently running another, hopefully final data import after we fixed the last known show-stoppers. So, fingers crossed, we might in fact be able to bring the site back up online today or tomorrow morning at the latest.

Again, sorry for the long downtime - we think it was worth it.

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Message 55243 - Posted: 6 Aug 2014, 14:11:46 UTC
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It's back. http://albertathome.org/

I still do not like their forums, though. No indication on who started which thread, or who posted (last) in it. Something fundamental that is available on all other forums, but when I asked about it in early testing at Albert, I got the reply that Oliver didn't think it was necessary, and as such it isn't included. Oh, OK, good reason then for me to never visit those forums again. Guess what happens when they put it like this on the Einstein project?

Edit: The admins have taken the site off line to check up on the report I made that email addresses of everyone were visible to all. I have edited my text here to take out what I wrote first.

Site off-line
Albert@Home is currently under maintenance. We should be back shortly. Thank you for your patience.

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Message 55256 - Posted: 7 Aug 2014, 20:26:05 UTC - in response to Message 55243.  

It's back. http://albertathome.org/
But not for long. It's requiring a login for all pages, and isn't accepting mine anywhere.

Possibly(?) related to reason given in this thread.

http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=10839
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