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Message 50447 - Posted: 11 Sep 2013, 12:02:54 UTC

I am running win 8 64-bit.

This began happening a few weeks ago. When trying to escape from the screensaver, boinc would release to the desktop, then immediately go back to running the screensaver. At that time, I was able to CTRL-ALT-DEL and get it to release and let me proceed. Then, a few days ago, even that would not work, and I would have to shut down to get it to release. I installed the latest boinc release to see if this would help, but it did not.

I am running SETI and Einstein on my boinc client. I have tried shutting down one of these to see if that helped, but it did not.

I am now running boinc with a "blank" screensaver, but I miss seeing the graphics run when it is in screensaver mode.

Does anyone have a solutions for this issue.

Also, as an aside, I see that the msi issue is still out there. It happened to me on the install of the latest boinc, but I was able to recover with an older version of boinc and then get the latest version to install.
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Message 50448 - Posted: 11 Sep 2013, 12:23:05 UTC - in response to Message 50447.  

Please post your Boinc startup from the Event Log.

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Message 50453 - Posted: 11 Sep 2013, 23:34:12 UTC - in response to Message 50448.  

Thank you for answering my post.

Will you please give me some instruction on what you want - I am afraid I do not know where to look for Boinc startup or Event log.

Thank you.

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Message 50454 - Posted: 11 Sep 2013, 23:38:11 UTC - in response to Message 50453.  

Exit BOINC completely (if you don't know, here's a FAQ).
Next restart it (Start->All Programs->BOINC->BOINC Manager)
Next open BOINC Manager and then open the Event Log (Advanced view->Advanced->Event Log, or press CTRL+SHIFT+E at the same time).

Then select the first 40 or so lines and click Copy Selected.
Next paste those lines in a post here.
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Message 50463 - Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 11:25:08 UTC - in response to Message 50454.  

Thank you for the instruction - here is the text from the Event Log

9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | No config file found - using defaults
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.64 for windows_x86_64
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | Running under account ceetiger
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3330 CPU @ 3.00GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9]
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes syscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 8: Core x64 Edition, (06.02.9200.00)
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | Memory: 7.96 GB physical, 15.96 GB virtual
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | Disk: 905.25 GB total, 827.43 GB free
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | Local time is UTC -4 hours
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7700 series (Cape Verde) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 1024MB, 984MB available, 2048 GFLOPS peak)
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7700 series (Cape Verde) (driver version 1124.2 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1124.2), 1024MB, 984MB available, 2048 GFLOPS peak)
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | Einstein@Home | URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 6952695; resource share 100
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 6960054; resource share 100
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 19-Mar-2005 10:23:16)
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | SETI@home | Computer location: home
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | Preferences:
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | max memory usage when active: 4074.81MB
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 7334.66MB
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | max CPUs used: 2
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | don't use GPU while active
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | max download rate: 40000 bytes/sec
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | max upload rate: 40000 bytes/sec
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | Not using a proxy
9/12/2013 7:23:26 AM | | Suspending GPU computation - computer is in use
9/12/2013 7:23:26 AM | SETI@home | Restarting task ap_12mr08af_B6_P0_00363_20130911_06027.wu_1 using astropulse_v6 version 601 in slot 0
9/12/2013 7:23:26 AM | SETI@home | Restarting task 28au08ad.30794.194824.7.12.97.vlar_1 using setiathome_v7 version 700 in slot 4
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Message 50465 - Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 13:06:39 UTC - in response to Message 50463.  

9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7700 series (Cape Verde) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 1024MB, 984MB available, 2048 GFLOPS peak)
9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7700 series (Cape Verde) (driver version 1124.2 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1124.2), 1024MB, 984MB available, 2048 GFLOPS peak)

9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | Einstein@Home | URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 6952695; resource share 100

9/12/2013 7:23:23 AM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 6960054; resource share 100

9/12/2013 7:23:26 AM | | Suspending GPU computation - computer is in use

All right, your computer has a videocard with GPU that is being used to do calculations with on the Einstein and Seti project. While the Einstein project has optimized its graphics applications to be capable of running at the same time as calculations are done on the GPU, Seti has not done so.

When you check, you will see that the Astropulse opencl_ati_100 executable and the Seti v7.03 opencl_ati_cat132 executable are without added graphics application. Only your Seti v7.00 CPU executable will have a graphics application.

The graphics applications run on the GPU on the same streaming multiprocessors as the calculations do, simultaneously. This can cause problems, artifacts and hang-ups (of the graphics, the screen saver and the computer). Therefore, with those projects that did not optimize their graphics applications to be capable to run with OpenCL or CUDA, it's advised to not run the graphics or screen saver at the same time as calculations are done on the GPU.

This means that your options of action are:
1. Either to set your Windows screen saver to None.
2. Or to a Windows own screen saver, at least anything but BOINC. These two also mean that you can't see Einstein's graphics anymore.
3. Or that you use Seti optimized third party applications. These come without graphics applications.
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Message 50478 - Posted: 13 Sep 2013, 0:37:43 UTC - in response to Message 50465.  

OK - so it has something to do with my graphics card. But why did it just start happening a couple of weeks ago? I have been using this computer with boinc/einstein/seti running for several months now, and the problem just now cropped up. And does this also answer my unasked question - why einstein was hogging all of the applications, and not letting seti run at all ? How can I get seti to have at least equal access ?

I will set the screensaver to none, but I sure would like to have the boinc graphics displayed ?

Thank you for your help.

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