getting rather peeved at young girls offering me a seat on the buses or trains

Have you tried commuting with a happier face or the occasional smile?

*look down nose* You might appear younger to others if you didn't do this either...

;)

You can have our UK lot, gratis and post free. Just gimmee a PO box, and I'll send 'em over First Class signed for.

All that would do is put having an ebayer in the queue in front of me into perspective, Chris. In every other respect, I expect I'd lose it. Yes. Not to the extent I'd ever approve of trafficking of any age group of course... although I can't think of a nicer person to be trafficked too... ;)

Now, before I forget...

I have taken your most excellent advice, Jord :)

here *point down*

oh... I forgot to tick the add my signature to this post box...

so there *point down AGAIN*

:)

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To the person trying to reach us, and any other wondering the same:
We do not have a moderator email list such as they do at CPDN, Seti and Einstein. Our group isn't large enough to warrant such a list, we can easily do with the Apache reports and talk among ourselves via email.

This means that when you have a time-out on your account, you'll have to wait it out until you're allowed to post again. Once your banishment is over, feel free to click on any post's report icon and fill out your complaint/request to be heard. When doing so, please refrain from using any profanities, and cuss- and swear words.

If you want any of us to contact you back, but not through the forums, then leave your email address. When reporting through the report post function, we only see who reported, but not any privileged information. We could answer through PM, but that's then just one moderator who does so.

If you have a complaint about any of the moderators, me included, then contact David Anderson. His email address can be found at the bottom of the moderation page.

On a personal note, the administrator title that I have is used to delete spammer posts. I cannot delete accounts, as I have no access to the BOINC user database. If you want your account(s) deleted, please email David.

Considering the fact that not one but two versions of boinc for android that are broken have been released, and the latest that has issues identifying the processor (and is still the recommended version) what guarantee does anyone have that DA reads any e-mail? It's a pain in the arse updating "apps" one by one rather than "update all" without the fear of not being able to crunch.

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These polite youngsters (to whom I look older than Methuselah's cat!) pop up all over the BART car and offer me places to sit. I usually politely decline, as I'm only 53 and have no problem standing on a moving train, but still, it is nice to be asked.

I am 71 (feeling it) and am getting rather peeved at young girls offering me a seat on the buses or trains. For Gods sake I don't look my age even if I act like it!!

Grrrr

My God, people giving up their seats to their elders, what has the world become?...

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Considering the fact that not one but two versions of boinc for android that are broken have been released, and the latest that has issues identifying the processor (and is still the recommended version)

David doesn't do the Android releases, so not sure why that needed to be addressed here. Problems with that are best reported through the Github issues page (do check that no-one else before you went and did so), and/or the Android development group, whose address can be found through http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/AndroidBoincTesting.

what guarantee does anyone have that DA reads any e-mail?

He reads all, but whether he answers depends on what you write, how you write it and whether it's something he can do something about. In your Android case, he'll probably just forward it to the group, or ask you to email that group.

In case of account deletions, if asked courteously you'll get an answer. Be out of line, and forget it.

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Well, considering what Dr. A. COULD do to my account, I suppose I should consider myself lucky that my extensive case has been handled by the Setimods.

Meow.

I'm on the end of a very old pair of copper wires here. House was built in '54. All strung overhead except for the last 200 feet or so from the last pole underground to my house.
Over the last 37 years, I've had maybe 10 or 12 service calls for noise or unusable service. Usually after an extended rainy spell. The last call was a couple of years ago, and that time the service tech got real serious. He tracked down and fixed a half dozen dodgy connections between the main trunk connection and my demarcation box.
Bean fine since then....hope saying that is not a jinx....LOL.

We've been here over 30 years and this stretch of road has always had historic problems going way back. They really need to re-cable down here, but they prefer to patch it as and when :-( Short-sightedness.

I await the day when they upgrade anything here.....
The next step would be fibre optic, I suppose. But nothing in the works that I am aware of. My DSL speed is not blazingly fast, but acceptable enough. I could do better if I subscribed to ATT Uverse and had my internet over cable. But since I don't even own a television, that would be a waste of money.

I could do better if I subscribed to ATT Uverse and had my internet over cable. But since I don't even own a television, that would be a waste of money.

ATT UVerse does NOT uses COAX cable, although they consider it "cable TV". It uses your existing telephone line as a high speed data only line similar to DSL using a different type of modulation and modem/router.

Here in Texas (and possibly other parts of the USA), AT&T eliminated selling "legacy DSL" some years back and is attempting to force upgrade everyone still on the legacy product to their UVerse triple play (phone, internet & TV) package or UVerse Internet with DirecTV satellite package. Almost all their packages now have a AT&T cell phone instead of a "home land line".

In some markets AT&T offers their UVerse "DSL only" package for a higher speed internet connection & higher priced. The availability is dependent on the local office (exchange) configuration, your distance from that exchange and the condition of the phone line(s) in your neighborhood and residence.

I should have remembered that Uverse comes in on a copper pair, now that I think about it, since Lori has it in her house and I was there when the tech hooked it all up. You are correct. The coax is only after the Uverse box.

I suppose one of these days ATT is gonna jack me up one way or the other, but for now I'll just try to hang on to my land line/DSL package. My cell phone is also with ATT, but on a separate contract, not packaged with my home services. The last I checked, they did not bundle that unless the Uverse deal was included.

Guess I am one of the few people that sits in front of the computer all day instead of in front of a telly....LOL.

I could do better if I subscribed to ATT Uverse and had my internet over cable. But since I don't even own a television, that would be a waste of money.

ATT UVerse does NOT uses COAX cable, although they consider it "cable TV". It uses your existing telephone line as a high speed data only line similar to DSL using a different type of modulation and modem/router.

Here in Texas (and possibly other parts of the USA), AT&T eliminated selling "legacy DSL" some years back and is attempting to force upgrade everyone still on the legacy product to their UVerse triple play (phone, internet & TV) package or UVerse Internet with DirecTV satellite package. Almost all their packages now have a AT&T cell phone instead of a "home land line".

In some markets AT&T offers their UVerse "DSL only" package for a higher speed internet connection & higher priced. The availability is dependent on the local office (exchange) configuration, your distance from that exchange and the condition of the phone line(s) in your neighborhood and residence.

On U-Verse here in SF Bay Area. (City of Danville.) Our home was built in 1978 and was pre-installed with two phone lines, (Blue and Orange), and COAX for TV service.

In 95/96 dad remodeled the house; expanding it out the back 8 Ft. He upgraded the phone lines to Six Pair wire, and upgraded the COAX cabling. Unfortunately, due to slab construction, it was impossible to install Cat5e to all the rooms in the house.

When we first had U-Verse installed, it WAS over COAX with the old 2Wire Gateway. This stayed for many years, and we upgraded our internet from 6 Mb to 10, to 12, to 18. FINALLY, moving to 24, we were given a new Home Run from the West side of the house over to the garage, into the attic and into the room above the garage, (which I call "The Closet"), and then a new AT&T Branded Jack. Then they replaced the 2Wire Gateway with the Arris 589. (This is when our install was considered to be "Off COAX".) Then we moved the DVR to the Master Bedroom and had two Wireless Boxes installed downstairs - one in the Family Room, the other in the Guest Bedroom. This left one 1200 Wired Box and the DVR on COAX. The Arris 589 was then set to "Backfeed" through the COAX to get signal to the two wired boxes. (The new Home Run took the install off of our Phone Lines and dedicated the U-Verse run over Cat5e. This was due to a mis-read of a False Bridge Tap on one of the Line Pairs.)

Sometime after this, we upgraded to 45 Mb Internet. Our recent Gateway Upgrade has replaced the 589 with the latest Gateway which still backfeeds over COAX to the two wired boxes.

After ALL of this, we still experience pixelations on ALL TVs and recurring intermittent signal loss/box reboots from the 1200 box in my room and the Wireless in the Family Room. So, even "Off COAX" U-Verse still is NOT perfect... However; they beat COMCAST hands down!!!!!

Now that AT&T has bought out DirecTV Satellite service; they want to push us off U-Verse TV to DirecTV. Unfortunately, dad does NOT want a dish on the house! So, we're sticking with U300 on original U-Verse service.

Just wanted to detail all of this to show that U-Verse did install over COAX; and in RARE instances where Cat5e CANNOT be run to all the rooms in a home, they still are forced to use COAX and 2 Wire Gateways; OR, push DirecTV and the latest U-Verse Gateway for Internet.


TL

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Now that AT&T has bought out DirecTV Satellite service; they want to push us off U-Verse TV to DirecTV. Unfortunately, dad does NOT want a dish on the house! So, we're sticking with U300 on original U-Verse service.

Back in February I upgraded our AT&T land line and internet to U-Verse. They did a home run from the demarc on the side of the house, through the basement and terminating at a router which I use for three computers, all Ethernet connected in various parts of the house. I dropped Time Warner cable tv and went with DirecTv. Like your dad, I did not want a dish on the roof, mainly because I'd just paid for a new roof, and didn't want them drilling holes in it, but they were able to mount the dish in the backyard on a 3 foot pole, no big deal.

p.s. Our incoming AT&T phone line from the pole is copper, and then it's copper about another three blocks until it junctions with a fiber box.

p.p.s. Total monthly cost with tax for land line, 24 Mb internet, and satellite tv service is $128. No premium movie channels, but I'm quite happy with an overall savings of about $50 a month vs. our old setup.

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Just stopping in to say meow before I retire for the night.
As tomorrow the kitties are due to be released on Seti again.

Meow meow meow!

PS....
I have no doubt we shall meet here again one day.
Meow.

and in RARE instances where Cat5e CANNOT be run to all the rooms in a home

Cat 5E is fine for home use, Cat 6A is best for businesses.

Cabling

And, if worse comes to worse, the original Cat 3 can be used for short runs if new wiring cannot be run due to access issues ...

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I find cats of any CATegory running around the house to be delightful.
Of course, it does not do much for connectivity.

Meowsigh.

I find cats of any CATegory running around the house to be delightful.
Of course, it does not do much for connectivity.

Meowsigh.

Unless, of course, there are two, in which case you may be so lucky as to have a twisted pair!
Purrssss..

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Landlines can be a lifesaver during an electricity outage. I'm not sure what the battery back-up is for mobile base stations (cellphone masts), but the traditional landline was powered over copper from the telephone exchange, and I think either you or Bernie told me - even showed pictures - of the lead-acid battery stacks in one of your exchanges.

That raises a question over your statement about FFTC works. The Fibre cabinet is independently powered, but just from the local supply - I watched mine being installed, and I didn't see any UPS going in there. So broadband goes down during an outage - but your home router will do too, so that's no loss. But if voice calls are digitised in the cabinet and routed over optical - oops. My understanding was that in the standard British BT-style fibre ('Infinity') setup, the landline remained copper back to the exchange, but broadband was separated off at the cabinet and re-routed over the fibre.

I also advised small businesses about telecoms during my working days, and a surprising number of them were badly trained by their installer about what to do during a power outage. Small electronic PABXs were becoming affordable, and each had their own style of electronic 'featurefone' powered from the PABX. Without power, the PABX had - under the regulations of the time - to provide failover sockets providing a direct power and signal service back to the exchange. But the feature phones wouldn't work over a direct line, and nobody stressed the need to keep a POTS handset handy where they could find it if the lights went out.

Landlines can be a lifesaver during an electricity outage. I'm not sure what the battery back-up is for mobile base stations (cellphone masts), but the traditional landline was powered over copper from the telephone exchange, and I think either you or Bernie told me - even showed pictures - of the lead-acid battery stacks in one of your exchanges.

In most cases, we either put battery backup strings in, or small UPSs if the tower operator had generator backup, as many did.

That raises a question over your statement about FFTC works. The Fibre cabinet is independently powered, but just from the local supply - I watched mine being installed, and I didn't see any UPS going in there. So broadband goes down during an outage - but your home router will do too, so that's no loss. But if voice calls are digitised in the cabinet and routed over optical - oops. My understanding was that in the standard British BT-style fibre ('Infinity') setup, the landline remained copper back to the exchange, but broadband was separated off at the cabinet and re-routed over the fibre.

Again, typically UPS, though in some cases since there was copper coming in as well power might be supplied that way.

I also advised small businesses about telecoms during my working days, and a surprising number of them were badly trained by their installer about what to do during a power outage. Small electronic PABXs were becoming affordable, ... But the feature phones wouldn't work over a direct line, and nobody stressed the need to keep a POTS handset handy where they could find it if the lights went out.

Ah yes, the infamous "ground start" phones. That pretty much went away as CO circuits transitioned from copper to T-1 digital (or in your case I suppose E-1, as we remained somewhat retarded over here ...), where fail phones could not be supplied. The regulation in the US was probably not as stringent as the UK, if I had my guess.

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Cabinets and phone lines are powered from the exchanges by 50V separate from the mains.

Mine isn't - not the fibre cabinet, at any rate (the standard copper loom probably is)



That yellow electricity warning tape covers a T-splice into the local distribution cable.

I know that when my local power goes down, my landline is still good to go. That is why this old fart still maintains his good old pair o' copper service. Call me old fashioned, but I still do not trust cell phones for everything.

Meow.

Laugh of the century :-)

A new UK polymer £5.00 note sold for £80,100.

Serial No AK47 051207.

Just confirms that's there one born every minute :-)