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Message 31338 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 13:22:36 UTC

Hi, my problem is a little hard to explain.

My config :
boinc 6.10.18
win 7 64 bits
Core I7 920
projetcs : climate prdiction, WCG, Virtual Prairie, lhcathome, hydrogenathome

In fact this night, I had a power cut at the house.
This morning my boinc manager only shows me tasks from climate prediction only, instead of tasks from all my projects.
I checked in c:\programdata\boinc\ the boinc data directory and I still see a folder Climate prediction, word community grid, lhc@home, hydrogen@home etc.
Thoses folders ar not empty, we can see files from thoses projects.

Before the powercut, my lists of tasks in boinc manager was full of tasks from WCG and a few of climate prediction.
So why boinc needed this morning to donwload new tasks from climate prediction ? and not working anymore on the others projects ? WCG tasks just desapeared from the boinc manager.

For solution I tried to :
- put a cc_config.xml file with the full path of the boinc data folder and force to read the file in the boinc manager. No changes.
- I uninstall boinc and reinstall it.

Any idea how I can force boinc to check thoses folders to see if tasks are still in those ?

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Message 31339 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 13:38:36 UTC - in response to Message 31338.  

I checked in c:\programdata\boinc\ the boinc data directory

Is that really the (current) BOINC data directory as listed in the Messages tab of BOINC manager?

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Message 31340 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 14:17:26 UTC - in response to Message 31339.  

Yes it is
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Message 31342 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 15:19:38 UTC - in response to Message 31341.  

04/03/2010 16:08:12 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.18 for windows_x86_64
04/03/2010 16:08:12 log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Running under account sekaiji
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz [Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 4]
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Processor: 256.00 KB cache
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 pni
04/03/2010 16:08:12 OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, (06.01.7600.00)
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Memory: 5.99 GB physical, 11.98 GB virtual
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Disk: 59.62 GB total, 13.06 GB free
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Local time is UTC +1 hours
04/03/2010 16:08:12 ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD5700 series (Juniper) (CAL version 1.4.553, 1024MB, 1376 GFLOPS peak)
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Not using a proxy
04/03/2010 16:08:12 climateprediction.net URL http://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID 972510; resource share 25
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Hydrogen@Home URL http://hydrogenathome.org/; Computer ID 2164; resource share 15
04/03/2010 16:08:12 lhcathome URL http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/; Computer ID 9726452; resource share 10
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Virtual Prairie URL http://vcsc.cs.uh.edu/virtual-prairie/; Computer ID 9802; resource share 15
04/03/2010 16:08:12 World Community Grid URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 114953; resource share 35
04/03/2010 16:08:12 World Community Grid General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 25-May-2009 12:54:18)
04/03/2010 16:08:12 World Community Grid Host location: none
04/03/2010 16:08:12 World Community Grid General prefs: using your defaults
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Reading preferences override file
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Preferences limit memory usage when active to 6134.11MB
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 6134.11MB
04/03/2010 16:08:12 Preferences limit disk usage to 18.86GB
04/03/2010 16:08:12 climateprediction.net Restarting task hadam3p_mtc0_1985_2_1006529874_4 using hadam3p version 614
04/03/2010 16:08:12 climateprediction.net Restarting task hadam3p_mtby_1969_2_1006529872_5 using hadam3p version 614
04/03/2010 16:08:12 climateprediction.net Restarting task hadam3p_mtdr_1994_2_1006529937_4 using hadam3p version 614
04/03/2010 16:08:12 climateprediction.net Restarting task hadam3p_mtq5_1978_2_1006530383_5 using hadam3p version 614
04/03/2010 16:08:12 climateprediction.net Restarting task hadam3p_mt92_1960_2_1006529768_5 using hadam3p version 614
04/03/2010 16:08:12 climateprediction.net Restarting task hadam3p_mtch_1966_2_1006529891_3 using hadam3p version 614
04/03/2010 16:08:12 climateprediction.net Restarting task hadam3p_mtxs_1971_2_1006530658_5 using hadam3p version 614
04/03/2010 16:08:12 climateprediction.net Restarting task hadam3p_mtcb_1996_2_1006529885_3 using hadam3p version 614

I see my projects on boinc manager, but no tasks exept the new ones from climate prediction.
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Message 31343 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 15:50:30 UTC - in response to Message 31342.  

I reseted my projects, and it works now.
I don't know why I lost my previous tasks, if you have an idea, please give it.

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Message 31344 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 16:09:37 UTC - in response to Message 31343.  

The science apps don't like having the "plug pulled" unexpectedly. BOINC needs a small amount of time to shut down gracefully, and a power failure doesn't allow for that.
It's the same if you just turn off the computer without first closing BOINC.
CRASH! No tasks left. (Especially with climate models.)

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Message 31346 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 16:26:49 UTC - in response to Message 31345.  

Climate models, for instance, use dozens of files. If some of these are being written to at the time of the failure, then it doesn't matter what's in either of the client state files. Even worse when the app is creating one of the upload zip files.

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Message 31348 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 16:49:21 UTC - in response to Message 31345.  
Last modified: 4 Mar 2010, 16:52:59 UTC

The plug pull cases whilst the client_state.xml write had not finished I thought were covered by restoring the client_state_prev.xml. If not, then what's the point of BOINC making backups?

I just exited BOINC, removed my client_state.xml file and restarted BOINC. It picked up on the client_state_prev.xml file and made a new copy, naming that one client_state.xml

So that works.

BOINC checks the start and end contents of the CS file, not anything in between. Still, to lose all work for all projects must've meant that all those were written to at the time of the power outage. A little unbelievable, although not impossible on an 8 core CPU (OK, 4 core, with hyperthreading ;-)).

@sekaiji, could you please check in Windows Event Log if Windows did a chkdsk upon restart?
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Message 31351 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 17:17:00 UTC - in response to Message 31350.  

Considering CPDN is on board, venture to think there were more tasks in the Tasks window then there were cores to handle them. sekaiji will surely confirm this one way or the other.

Or memory. Les, how much does one Hadam3p version 614 take up?
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Message 31352 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 18:03:57 UTC - in response to Message 31351.  

I'm not sure about that; I'll have to ask.
Vague guess - 500-700 Megs? Plus more for graphics if they were open at the time.
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Message 31353 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 18:58:02 UTC - in response to Message 31352.  

I've got two on the go at the moment. About 100MB on disk in the project directory, 300MB - 350MB for each model in their own subdirectory.

Each using about 215MB of RAM while running, graphics not possible on this Vista32 host.

Ah - got one on XP too. About 25MB RAM for graphics.
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Message 31354 - Posted: 4 Mar 2010, 19:30:49 UTC

Obvious, of course. Just download one and see.
Similar to Richard - 222MB; graphics jumping between 18.4MB and 34.2MB.

So about 250Megs of ram with graphics.

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