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Message 27549 - Posted: 23 Sep 2009, 20:07:05 UTC

Just installed 6.10.7. It connect to the client okay, but shows 0 cpus availabe. Nothing is running, it is all in waiting to run and seems to be cycling thru the same projects over and over. Will let it run a while to see if there is any changes, if not will go back to 6.6.36



9/23/2009 1:34:06 PM Unrecognized tag in cc_config.xml: <measurement_debug>
9/23/2009 1:34:06 PM Unrecognized tag in cc_config.xml: <work_request_factor>
9/23/2009 1:34:06 PM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.7 for windows_intelx86
9/23/2009 1:34:06 PM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
9/23/2009 1:34:06 PM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8k zlib/1.2.3
9/23/2009 1:34:06 PM Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
9/23/2009 1:34:06 PM Running under account Owner
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9]
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Home x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 5.85 GB virtual
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Disk: 74.53 GB total, 30.39 GB free
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Local time is UTC -6 hours
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM cuInit() returned 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM No ATI Libraries found.
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM No coprocessors
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Not using a proxy
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Version change (6.6.36 -> 6.10.7)
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM http://193.144.240.190/nnsimu/ URL http://193.144.240.190/nnsimu/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM ABC@home URL http://abcathome.com/; Computer ID 89148; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM http://arcoboinc.unex.es/rnd/ URL http://arcoboinc.unex.es/rnd/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM CPDN Seasonal Attribution Project URL http://attribution.cpdn.org/; Computer ID 20571; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM wanless2 URL http://bearnol.is-a-geek.com/wanless2/; Computer ID 10254; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM BelgianBeerAtHome URL http://bebeer.dyndns.org:2222/bebeer/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM proteins@home URL http://biology.polytechnique.fr/proteinsathome/; Computer ID 24523; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM AlmereGrid Boinc Grid URL http://boinc.almeregrid.nl/; Computer ID 3194; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM boincsimap URL http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/; Computer ID 71351; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM malaria URL http://boinc.cs.uct.ac.za/malaria/; Computer ID 823; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM DrugDiscovery URL http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/; Computer ID 217; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM DistrRTgen URL http://boinc.freerainbowtables.com/distrrtgen/; Computer ID 3324; resource share 50
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Leiden Classical URL http://boinc.gorlaeus.net/; Computer ID 63263; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM SHA-1 Collision Search Graz URL http://boinc.iaik.tugraz.at/sha1_coll_search/; Computer ID 58404; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Riesel Sieve Project URL http://boinc.rieselsieve.com/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM The Lattice Project URL http://boinc.umiacs.umd.edu/; Computer ID 630; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Test@Home URL http://boogie.lpds.sztaki.hu/test/; Computer ID 13; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM BURP URL http://burp.renderfarming.net/; Computer ID 44364; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM superlinkattechnion URL http://cbl-boinc-server2.cs.technion.ac.il/superlinkattechnion/; Computer ID 738; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Cels@Home URL http://cels-at-home-dev.dyndns.org/cels/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM test1 URL http://dawn.ynet.sk/test1/; Computer ID 3113; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM sudoku URL http://dist2.ist.tugraz.at/sudoku/; Computer ID 11487; resource share 100
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9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM http://edges-local-devbnc-srv.ceta-ciemat.es/DSP_Show2/ URL http://edges-local-devbnc-srv.ceta-ciemat.es/DSP_Show2/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
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9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM gerasim@home URL http://gerasim.boinc.ru/gerasim/; Computer ID 4965; resource share 50
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM http://goldbach.pl/ URL http://goldbach.pl/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM NCSSM Grid URL http://grid.ncssm.edu/ncssm_grid/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Hydrogen@Home URL http://hydrogenathome.org/; Computer ID 189; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM MindModeling@Beta URL http://MindModeling.org/beta/; Computer ID 1430; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM MindModeling@RPI URL http://MindModeling.org/rpi/; Computer ID 735; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM http://neuron.mine.nu/neuron/ URL http://neuron.mine.nu/neuron/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM NQueens@Home Project URL http://nqueens.ing.udec.cl/; Computer ID 237; resource share 100
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9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM malariacontrol.net URL http://www.malariacontrol.net/; Computer ID 41798; resource share 100
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9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM uFluids URL http://www.ufluids.net/; Computer ID 48840; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM World Community Grid URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 386135; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM http://xw01.lri.fr:4320/ URL http://xw01.lri.fr:4320/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM General prefs: from http://boinc.picevolvr.com/picevolvr/ (last modified 21-Sep-2009 12:33:37)
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Host location: none
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM General prefs: using your defaults
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Reading preferences override file
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1842.06MB
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2046.73MB
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit disk usage to 32.28GB
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit # CPUs to 0
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Running CPU benchmarks
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Suspending computation - running CPU benchmarks
9/23/2009 1:34:39 PM [error] Benchmark: FP unexpectedly zero; ignoring
9/23/2009 1:34:39 PM [error] Benchmark: int unexpectedly zero; ignoring
9/23/2009 1:34:39 PM Benchmark results:
9/23/2009 1:34:39 PM Number of CPUs: 0
9/23/2009 1:34:39 PM 1381 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
9/23/2009 1:34:39 PM 2833 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
9/23/2009 1:34:43 PM NFS@Home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/23/2009 1:34:43 PM NFS@Home Not reporting or requesting tasks
9/23/2009 1:34:48 PM NFS@Home Scheduler request completed
9/23/2009 1:34:53 PM ralph@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/23/2009 1:34:53 PM ralph@home Not reporting or requesting tasks
9/23/2009 1:34:58 PM ralph@home Scheduler request completed

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Message 27550 - Posted: 23 Sep 2009, 20:32:59 UTC - in response to Message 27549.  

9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Reading preferences override file
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1842.06MB
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2046.73MB
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit disk usage to 32.28GB
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit # CPUs to 0

Is there something in your global_prefs_override.xml file (or in cc_config.xml (<ncpus>)) that could cause that message?

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Message 27551 - Posted: 23 Sep 2009, 20:53:39 UTC - in response to Message 27550.  
Last modified: 23 Sep 2009, 20:59:45 UTC

No. in the global file the max CPU is set to 100 and in the cc file the debug cpu parameters are turn off. Going back to 6.6.36 and everything is correct. It has to have something to do with how is does its benchmarks.


I do not have any ATI or GPU boards.

think maybe its getting confused some how.

You can see what I run in the messages attached to my previous message.

Thanks for you suggestion.

Here is what I get when I go back to 6.6.36.

Host Project Date Message
ELEMENTS --- 9/23/2009 2:40:12 PM Number of CPUs: 2
ELEMENTS --- 9/23/2009 2:40:12 PM 1356 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
ELEMENTS --- 9/23/2009 2:40:12 PM 2808 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
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Message 27552 - Posted: 23 Sep 2009, 21:27:14 UTC - in response to Message 27550.  

9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Reading preferences override file
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1842.06MB
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2046.73MB
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit disk usage to 32.28GB
9/23/2009 1:34:07 PM Preferences limit # CPUs to 0

Is there something in your global_prefs_override.xml file (or in cc_config.xml (<ncpus>)) that could cause that message?

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Double-check <ncpus> in cc_config.xml.

Back in the day, 0 meant 'ignore me, use whatever the OS tells you'.

Now, 0 means zero, and you have to use -1 for 'whatever the OS says'.
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Message 27553 - Posted: 23 Sep 2009, 21:28:13 UTC

The original post indicated the presence of a config file.
9/23/2009 1:34:06 PM Unrecognized tag in cc_config.xml: <measurement_debug>
9/23/2009 1:34:06 PM Unrecognized tag in cc_config.xml: <work_request_factor>

Did you try deleting it and restarting Boinc?

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Message 27554 - Posted: 23 Sep 2009, 23:37:17 UTC
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Will change the parameters in cc to -1 as suggested and reload 6.10.7.

This worked, now have tasks running and the correct CPUs showed up as well as the floating points.

Are there any other parameters that should be changed from 0 to -1?


Is this new with this version?
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Message 27556 - Posted: 24 Sep 2009, 9:10:25 UTC - in response to Message 27554.  

Will change the parameters in cc to -1 as suggested and reload 6.10.7.

This worked, now have tasks running and the correct CPUs showed up as well as the floating points.

Are there any other parameters that should be changed from 0 to -1?

Is this new with this version?

To be honest, I thought the change came into effect quite some time ago, and I'm surprised v6.6.36 worked.

The full list is at Client configuration. There are several new(ish) tags, but I think ncpus is the only one where the default value has been changed to mean something completely catastrophic.

But unless you have an explicit need to use a non-standard setting, just delete the whole file. BOINC doesn't actually need any of it.
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Message 27557 - Posted: 24 Sep 2009, 10:55:07 UTC - in response to Message 27554.  

Is this new with this version?

Since ever and always since this option was available it has said (in my FAQs at least) in the description of the flag:

<ncpus>
Act as if there were N CPUs: run N tasks at once. This is for debugging, i.e. to simulate 2 CPUs on a machine that has only 1. Don't use it to limit the number of CPUs used by BOINC; use general preferences instead.

For use with CUDA: When you want to do CUDA only, not use the CPUs at all, set <ncpus>0</ncpus>
If you want to use all CPUs, either omit using this option, or set <ncpus>-1</ncpus>


Now, of course you don't have to read what each option does, but perhaps for future reference it would be prudent if you did.

9/23/2009 1:34:06 PM Unrecognized tag in cc_config.xml: <measurement_debug>
9/23/2009 1:34:06 PM Unrecognized tag in cc_config.xml: <work_request_factor>

These are added by an add-on application, like BoincView or similar. The flags in question are no longer used and long since been replaced by other, stronger flags.

Last thing on the agenda, you're running an alpha product. You willingly installed it despite the warning that you're running a development product.

Are you a registered Alpha tester, as in, did you register yourself to the Alpha email list to follow posts on there and add in your bit if you find trouble of your own? If you did, then why do you ignore the warning at the top of every alpha release that we told about on these forums, through this thread?

You know... the bit you probably skip by now:
This is a development version of BOINC. Do not use it if you do not plan to use it for Alpha or Beta testing. Expect parts of it to be broken, or in the least to work in a different way than you are used to.

REMINDER TO ALL ALPHA TESTERS:
It's far easier for us to fix problems if you send message logs with the appropriate flags set. The main flags are:

<cpu_sched_debug>: problems involving the choice of applications to run.
<work_fetch_debug>: problems involving work fetch (which projects are asked for work, and how much).
<rr_simulation>: problems involving jobs being run in high-priority mode.

Use these flags from the cc_config.xml file.

Report any problems you get with it to the Alpha email list. This list needs registration. Reporting about it on these forums does not make any sense as the developers HARDLY read these forums.


Being an Alpha tester comes with a certain responsibility of knowing what you set (last month, last week, yesterday, 2 hours ago) and else put everything back to default settings before you raise a (panicked) warning.

Of course that leaves the question, if you're not an Alpha tester, then why are you running the software in the first place? But alas. Comme ci, comme ça.
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Message 27559 - Posted: 24 Sep 2009, 11:40:07 UTC - in response to Message 27557.  
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Hello everyone, long time no see...

Is this new with this version?

Since ever and always since this option was available it has said (in my FAQs at least) in the description of the flag: [...]

I've experienced exactly this same problems some 2-3 days ago (interestingly, nCi project QCN continued to crunch :-) and solved it yesterday. My previous version was 6.6.36 and I've also used the same
<ncpus>0</ncpus>
for years...

Peter

PS: According to the Client configuration's history, the <ncpus> official description apparently changed on 16:18, 9 February 2009.

BTW, I do like the new forum editor ;-)
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Message 27560 - Posted: 24 Sep 2009, 12:08:09 UTC - in response to Message 27557.  
Last modified: 24 Sep 2009, 12:09:16 UTC

The <ncpus> flag (debug purposes only) has been available for longer than any of us needs to worry about.

As Pepo says, the description in the Wiki was changed by Dave A on 9 February 2009, which was fairly early in the intensive CUDA fine-tuning that led to the functional v6.6.20 and later clients.

The Wiki note reflects changeset [trac]changeset:17160[/trac] from four days earlier, which is where the underlying function was changed:

- client: if ncpus is zero in cc_config.xml, honor it.

Unfortunately, this is yet another of the changesets which never got copied into the boinc_core_release_6_6a stable branch, which perhaps explains why v6.6.36 doesn't behave as described in the Wiki.....

Perhaps the lead check-in note explains why Rom overlooked it:

- web: add another team stats link
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