I know you guys have your reasons for doing this - I've read the sticky - but I see no good reason whatsoever for not giving people a choice in the matter. Because I for one choose not to surrender control of my computer to you, nor to go through the hassle of remembering to change settings, or to shut BOINC down, every time I need to do some processor intensive work myself. I've always started BOINC manually as an application when my computer is not busy in the past, and that's the way I still need to do it in the future. But thank you very much, anyway.

And note - Your 'Protected Application' shutdown instructions still leaves boinctray.exe running in my computers memory - and using up 3.6mb of it. And unchecking Protected Application during installation changes nothing regarding autostart, either.

If anyone has any workarounds for running BOINC as an application again, I'll check back here in a day or so. Thanks for any help. And after just building a new computer that is overclocked and Prime95 Orthos (beyond 12 hours) and Memtest86+ stable, I'm also a little puzzled (and brokenhearted) as to why BOINC is blue screening on me within minutes. At least when using my oveclocked settings. Is this my computers fault, or just a buggy new BOINC client?

The upcoming BOINC 6.4 has a choice of whether or not you want to start BOINC Manager at Windows startup. The problem is, it'll only do this after you've installed BOINC and can be regulated through the Advanced view->Options section, it isn't a choice in the installer as we requested it to be.

The upcoming BOINC 6.4 will also not install as a service (protected application execution) by default.

Your workaround is to not install as the protected application execution, found under the advanced button in the installer (take the check off if you didn't do so already), then after the install is done and you probably did your mandatory reboot, to go to the Windows Startup folder (Start->Programs->Startup) and remove the link to BOINC Manager.

Boinctray.exe starts from the registry, at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

Do know that Boinctray.exe will not restart when you restart BOINC, so if you use any "only process when idle" preferences, you will have to restart this executable by hand, as all it does is poll the mouse and keyboard for 'movements'. (And to be honest, it takes up 3.6 megabytes... you think your system will topple over because of that?)

What does the BSOD say? Does it happen as soon as BOINC starts or after BOINC started crunching away at whatever project you are attached to? Which project(s)? Do know that the applications that run under BOINC put your CPU under extreme load, so an overclock can cause your system to topple over. Not BOINC's fault, not so much the computer's, but more that of the person doing the overclocking.

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Thanks for the reply Ageless. I've bookmarked it and your sticky for reference. Although I did try removing boinc.exe from my 'All Users' Start folder as you suggested (I had already unchecked 'Protected' during my second install), and I'm still getting an autostart. And it looks like a new folder has now been created in my Documents and Settings folder called 'boinc_master'? Anyway, perhaps I'm having this trouble because I did leave my main BOINC folder intact after doing my first uninstall. Because I didn't want to dump my already downloaded work units.

The upcoming BOINC 6.4 has a choice of whether or not you want to start BOINC Manager at Windows startup...will also not install as a service (protected application execution) by default.

This phrase in your reply seems to directly contradict your sticky, and the phrasing I was upset about. I.E. "Come BOINC 6, BOINC will install as a service by default.... at the moment you have the choice...it is planned to remove this option...then BOINC will only install as a service."

And to be honest, it takes up 3.6 megabytes... you think your system will topple over because of that?

No I don't. But just taking a look a few minutes ago at the Start folder of my new OS reinstall, it's already loaded up with bloatware I simply don't need or want loaded all the time. And this junk does add up, and I'm forced to take hours out my life trying to deal with it. It sometimes does seem to me like every software designer out there thinks his own program is gods gift to the world, and that we're all too stupid to double click an icon when we really want or need to use something.

Not BOINC's fault, not so much the computer's, but more that of the person doing the overclocking.

Yes, I was thinking the problem was probably on my end because I could run BOINC successfully at failsafe settings. And leaving memtest86+ running all last night, I did have a lockup. So, err, nevermind. Guess I still have some more tuning to do.

Although I did try removing boinc.exe from my 'All Users' Start folder as you suggested

I never suggested any such thing. I told you to remove the shortcut to BOINC Manager (boincmgr.lnk) from your Startup folder under Start->Programs. That's what autostarting BOINC.

Removing boinc.exe in the directory will only cause lots and lots of problems as you will just have removed the core client. All that the GUI does (BOINC Manager) is give you a graphical user interface to control the core client with. Else you'd have to do all that through the command line. ;-)

And it looks like a new folder has now been created in my Documents and Settings folder called 'boinc_master'?

Yes, this is normal. See ClientSetupLogicSix for more on that.

The upcoming BOINC 6.4 has a choice of whether or not you want to start BOINC Manager at Windows startup...will also not install as a service (protected application execution) by default.

This phrase in your reply seems to directly contradict your sticky, and the phrasing I was upset about.

I am still rewriting that sticky. A note has been added already and so far, mainly because 6.4 hasn't been released to the mainstream public yet, all there is correct. Once 6.4 is released to the public, I'll have to rewrite it in full.

But just taking a look a few minutes ago at the Start folder of my new OS reinstall, it's already loaded up with bloatware I simply don't need or want loaded all the time.

Use nice programs such as Spybot S&D, Spywareblaster and such to get rid of a lot of stuff you truly don't want running. Don't load thousands of fonts that you never use anyway. Stop Windows from using animated menus and mouse trails.

The first thing I did when I installed XP was turn all that shat off.
Install a Firefox version with NoScript and AdBlock Plus extensions and use that for browsing. Don't allow all scripts on every page you come across. The main page is usually what you need only, certainly not the google-analytics. ;-)

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