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Message 20539 - Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 22:59:45 UTC
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I have been having multiple problems getting boinc to run under vista x64.

version 6.2.19 installs but cannot connect to client even when i type localhost as the computer name.

version 5.10.45 will install as a single user but cant auto start because of vista ( need to allow it to run via taskbar every time. (turning off UAC not an option)

version 5.10.45 as a service runs ok but i have to log into the account the service is running on to suspend it and cant access Boinc Manager via any other account. It simply does not load.


Also boinc or the applications running under boinc use all the cpu time instead of taking a lower priority to other programs. For example if I watch a DVD and dont touch the mouse boinc starts up but does not allow winDVD or any other program enough cpu time to run correctly.

PC hardware : core2quad 6700 @ 2.93GHZ 8GB Ram 500GB HD 8800 GTX gfx card. windows and drivers all up to date.

* Edit to change all the bionics to boinc before anyone else notices :)
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Message 20540 - Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 23:34:44 UTC

I hope you didn't name yourself after the program... as it's called BOINC, not BIONIC. (It isn't Berkeley's International Open Node for Internet Computing, although that wouldn't do bad either. ;-))

For 6.2.19: Did you re-enable BOINC through your firewall (and/or Windows Defender)?

For 5.10.45: To be able to start BM under other accounts, you need to have installed it as a Shared Install.

As for science applications continuing to work at full speed, you're the second person who reported this. I forwarded it to the developers.
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Message 20541 - Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 23:45:54 UTC - in response to Message 20540.  

I hope you didn't name yourself after the program... as it's called BOINC, not BIONIC. (It isn't Berkeley's International Open Node for Internet Computing, although that wouldn't do bad either. ;-))

For 6.2.19: Did you re-enable BOINC through your firewall (and/or Windows Defender)?

For 5.10.45: To be able to start BM under other accounts, you need to have installed it as a Shared Install.

As for science applications continuing to work at full speed, you're the second person who reported this. I forwarded it to the developers.


6.2.19 is enabled via windows firewall as for defender its never complained about boinc or has anything to show that its blocking it.

5.10.45 was installed as a shared installation but boinc manager will not open on an account other than the one the service is running under. If i click on boinc manager under another account nothing happens.

good call on the name tho no idea why I never noticed before lol
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Message 20542 - Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 23:56:21 UTC - in response to Message 20541.  
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5.10.45 was installed as a shared installation but boinc manager will not open on an account other than the one the service is running under. If i click on boinc manager under another account nothing happens.

You either installed it as a service, or you didn't.

The shared install doesn't install BOINC as a service. Under the shared install BOINC will only start when you start BOINC Manager. It'll exit when you exit BOINC Manager.

Under BOINC 6 you can do this as well by either installing BOINC as a protected application execution option (which is the service), or not protected option (which is the shared install). Do check the option here that everyone on the computer is allowed to control BOINC.

In 50% of the cases where you start BOINC Manager and a pop up comes up that says BOINC Manager cannot find a running client, do you want to try to connect to one, it means that BM is running, but the client isn't (yet), while for the other 50% it means that you didn't allow both boinc.exe and boincmgr.exe through the firewall on port 31416 for the running computer only.
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Message 20543 - Posted: 28 Sep 2008, 0:29:37 UTC - in response to Message 20542.  
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5.10.45 was installed as a shared installation but boinc manager will not open on an account other than the one the service is running under. If i click on boinc manager under another account nothing happens.

You either installed it as a service, or you didn't.

The shared install doesn't install BOINC as a service. Under the shared install BOINC will only start when you start BOINC Manager. It'll exit when you exit BOINC Manager.

Under BOINC 6 you can do this as well by either installing BOINC as a protected application execution option (which is the service), or not protected option (which is the shared install). Do check the option here that everyone on the computer is allowed to control BOINC.

In 50% of the cases where you start BOINC Manager and a pop up comes up that says BOINC Manager cannot find a running client, do you want to try to connect to one, it means that BM is running, but the client isn't (yet), while for the other 50% it means that you didn't allow both boinc.exe and boincmgr.exe through the firewall on port 31416 for the running computer only.



I have re-installed boinc 6. Checked windows firewall. boinccmgr.exe was already there showing as allowed. I have manually added another exception for boinc.exe and opened a port 31416 tcp as well. Still no joy.

Upon checking task manager / services there is a service called BOINC which is stopped. I have tried to start this service by right clicking on it but it says not authorised. Tried via control pannel/ administrative tools/ services but get message "error 1067 the process terminated unexpectedly"

Also tried turning off firewall, avast and spybot S&D with no effect.
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Message 20545 - Posted: 28 Sep 2008, 0:41:12 UTC - in response to Message 20543.  

Did you reboot the system?
Is there a RebootPending.txt file in your BOINC (Data) directory?
Did you point the installer to use two separate directories for BOINC and BOINC Data, not as in the old days that it's all under one directory? (As that doesn't work anymore and was specially separated for Vista).
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Message 20547 - Posted: 28 Sep 2008, 1:14:00 UTC - in response to Message 20545.  

Did you reboot the system?
Is there a RebootPending.txt file in your BOINC (Data) directory?
Did you point the installer to use two separate directories for BOINC and BOINC Data, not as in the old days that it's all under one directory? (As that doesn't work anymore and was specially separated for Vista).


I moved the data directory to "documents/BOINC/" when i first made an attempt to install boinc 6 as Vista doesnt like programs writing data in the programs directory.

Every time i try to re-install boinc 6 now it has the data directory in "documents".

No file called RebootPending.TXT in there just a bunch of files from a boinc 5 install which i did a few hours ago which I think where moved there when i installed boinc 6 again.

Reboot made no difference. Manager shows up in task bar but cannot connect to a client.
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Message 20549 - Posted: 28 Sep 2008, 9:40:32 UTC - in response to Message 20547.  

I moved the data directory to "documents/BOINC/" when i first made an attempt to install boinc 6 as Vista doesnt like programs writing data in the programs directory.

BOINC 6 separates the BOINC files and the data directory, writing the BOINC executables (none of which are constantly written to) to \Program Files\ and the Data directory (with all the files that are constantly written to) to C:\ProgramData\ as default directories.

You didn't need to change the default directories. Because of Vista, this was already taken care of.

Every time i try to re-install boinc 6 now it has the data directory in "documents".

Not if you click on the Advanced button and change the paths to the BOINC directory and the BOINC Data directory.

Please read the FAQ on that subject of directories and why it was done this way. :-)

Reboot made no difference. Manager shows up in task bar but cannot connect to a client.

Check in Task Manager, when you run BOINC Manager, is there a boinc.exe running? Wait a bit, it may take a little to start up.

When installed as a service... I understand that you can set Start with Delay on the BOINC service in the services applet. Can you try that one?
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Message 20551 - Posted: 28 Sep 2008, 11:41:58 UTC - in response to Message 20549.  
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I moved the data directory to "documents/BOINC/" when i first made an attempt to install boinc 6 as Vista doesnt like programs writing data in the programs directory.

BOINC 6 separates the BOINC files and the data directory, writing the BOINC executables (none of which are constantly written to) to \Program Files\ and the Data directory (with all the files that are constantly written to) to C:\ProgramData\ as default directories.

You didn't need to change the default directories. Because of Vista, this was already taken care of.

Every time i try to re-install boinc 6 now it has the data directory in "documents".

Not if you click on the Advanced button and change the paths to the BOINC directory and the BOINC Data directory.

Please read the FAQ on that subject of directories and why it was done this way. :-)

Reboot made no difference. Manager shows up in task bar but cannot connect to a client.

Check in Task Manager, when you run BOINC Manager, is there a boinc.exe running? Wait a bit, it may take a little to start up.

When installed as a service... I understand that you can set Start with Delay on the BOINC service in the services applet. Can you try that one?


Thank you, moving the data directory back to the default has fixed the problem with no problems with UAC or program start up. Should I report this as a bug since the option to move the directory does not work in Vista x64?
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Message 20553 - Posted: 28 Sep 2008, 15:54:40 UTC - in response to Message 20552.  
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Should I report this as a bug since the option to move the directory does not work in Vista x64?


After reviewing your posts, I have a feeling maybe you moved the directory by just dragging the folder icon into a different folder, or something like that. If that's what you did then it's little wonder you had problems. But I'm not sure if that's what you did, maybe I'm just not reading your posts right. I would say hold off on the bug report until it's clear when and how you moved the directory. Or let others try to reproduce the bug first and then decide whether a bug has been discovered.


I changed the location of the data directory using the installer only. No dragging and dropping. I also set it back to the default directory using the same method.
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Message 20561 - Posted: 28 Sep 2008, 20:54:13 UTC - in response to Message 20547.  

I moved the data directory to "documents/BOINC/" when i first made an attempt to install boinc 6 as Vista doesnt like programs writing data in the programs directory.

When you say "documents", where exactly do you mean? By default, that is one of the movable folders associated with each separate user logon: my documents is not the same place as your documents, The "documents" in my start menu is actually 'C:\Users\Richard Haselgrove\Documents'.

If you're referring to a similar location, it might explain why BOINC Manager couldn't attach properly when someone else was logged on to the computer. Depending how Windows is set up, users can be prevented from seeing or modifying each other's documents, even on the same machine.

Every time i try to re-install boinc 6 now it has the data directory in "documents".

Yes, BOINC remembers user choices made during installation, and uses them as the default setting when you re-install. Saves a lot of typing (and remembering) when updating frequently, such as during testing.
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Message 20597 - Posted: 30 Sep 2008, 22:07:13 UTC - in response to Message 20561.  

I moved the data directory to "documents/BOINC/" when i first made an attempt to install boinc 6 as Vista doesnt like programs writing data in the programs directory.

When you say "documents", where exactly do you mean? By default, that is one of the movable folders associated with each separate user logon: my documents is not the same place as your documents, The "documents" in my start menu is actually 'C:\Users\Richard Haselgrove\Documents'.

If you're referring to a similar location, it might explain why BOINC Manager couldn't attach properly when someone else was logged on to the computer. Depending how Windows is set up, users can be prevented from seeing or modifying each other's documents, even on the same machine.

Every time i try to re-install boinc 6 now it has the data directory in "documents".

Yes, BOINC remembers user choices made during installation, and uses them as the default setting when you re-install. Saves a lot of typing (and remembering) when updating frequently, such as during testing.


I moved the data folder to

C:\Users\username\Documents\BOINC

I suppose its possible that Vista is preventing the service/program from accessing the folder. I guess if BOINC manager does not have the correct permissions then it makes sense that Vista would prevent it from reading or writing to that folder.

No doubt if I re-directed the data folder to C:\BOINC it would work correctly. It was just my choice of folder that caused the problem. Anyway, I dont want to tempt fate and and test this theory as BOINC is working great now.

So, I will hold off writing a bug report as its probably just Vista protecting me from myself lol.

Thanks again for your help.
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