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Message 12100 - Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 19:42:54 UTC
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Message 12116 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 19:52:55 UTC
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I was wondering if it would be possible to add a way to start a particular work unit instead of letting Bionc choose one at random. There have been times when I had a work unit that was almost finished, however Bionc would choose to start 2 different work units (I have a Dual Core System). It would be nice if I could say right click with the mouse Choose to tell Bionc to run the work unit I selected.
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Message 12117 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 20:00:23 UTC
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I forgot one thing in the last post. - If you have a system with Dual monitors and you tell your system to you the Bionc screen saver it only displays the screen saver on one monitor, on the other monitor it just says loading Boinc Screen saver with the Bionc logo, which stays in one place. So I can't use the screen saver as it would burn the Bionc logo into my second monitor.

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Message 12118 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 20:07:47 UTC - in response to Message 12117.  
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See Dual monitor support for the answers as to why this is.
And please place your statistics file in your signature.
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Message 12119 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 20:10:51 UTC - in response to Message 12116.  
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I was wondering if it would be possible to add a way to start a particular work unit instead of letting Bionc choose one at random. There have been times when I had a work unit that was almost finished, however Bionc would choose to start 2 different work units (I have a Dual Core System). It would be nice if I could say right click with the mouse Choose to tell Bionc to run the work unit I selected.

Other than to Pause/Suspend the running results, no, not at this moment.
It is due to how the Task scheduler works. When you get new work in, it calculates according to the debt values in client_state.xml if these results will end in time for their deadline. If they won't, they get selected to run immediately.

We're busy though trying to work the developers into such a manual option. Don't expect it any time soon though.
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Message 12120 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 20:11:41 UTC
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Sorry about that, I moved my stats to the signature file. And thanks for the replys.
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Message 12121 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 20:17:20 UTC - in response to Message 12120.  
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That's all right. I did add to my previous reply about the manual option to run a task.

I've had similar problems the past weeks, after reboots. That tasks got stuck at between 6 seconds (!!) and 2 minutes from the end, because something else started up. Oh well, eventually it'll work as I want it to. ;-)
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Message 12124 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 23:44:33 UTC

And my WISH LIST -- I have two screens. Can I get two screen savers from BOINC? Or is that for each project? Windows XP screen saver goes to two screens.
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Message 12125 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 23:56:33 UTC - in response to Message 12124.  

And my WISH LIST -- I have two screens. Can I get two screen savers from BOINC? Or is that for each project? Windows XP screen saver goes to two screens.
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No.

See Dual monitor support for the answers as to why this is.
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Message 12149 - Posted: 19 Aug 2007, 14:36:49 UTC
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Hi,

1.When I suspend a Wu that is slowly downloading (marked as 'downloading'), nothing is indicating me if the Wu is suspended (will not be crunched) or not.
So It would be nice to see 'Downloading, suspended' in the manager.

2.I'd like a advanced feature: a button to run the Wus only according to the Ressource share, without taking into account the deadlines. (would be great for A/Beta testing or for people that don't like the way the scheduler works)
Boinc would just be "round-robinning" among the attached projects without taking the deadlines into account and without downloading new work.

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Message 12237 - Posted: 27 Aug 2007, 4:14:09 UTC

Maybe this has been suggested before. To be honest, I haven't scoured all the threads. Anyway...

Most of my machines are attached to 40+ projects. There are occasions where I want to do the opposite of a couple of the project buttons. For example, I want to select a project and click a button that does

o Suspend all *other* projects

o No new tasks for *other* projects

To do either of these today, I have to individually select another project, then click the button, repeat 40+ times. Ugh.
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Message 12238 - Posted: 27 Aug 2007, 8:11:20 UTC - in response to Message 12237.  

There are occasions where I want to do the opposite of a couple of the project buttons. For example, I want to select a project and click a button that does

o Suspend all *other* projects

o No new tasks for *other* projects

Recent Boinc Manager already supports multiple line selections. If the buttons would stay clickable, then the intuitive way (like in current BoincView betas) would be to select all-but-the-one project (with 1-2 mouse draws and one CTRL button press) and press the appropriate button.

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Message 12241 - Posted: 27 Aug 2007, 15:15:02 UTC - in response to Message 12238.  

Recent Boinc Manager already supports multiple line selections. If the buttons would stay clickable,[...]

Exactly! Why allow multiple lines to be selected, and then not allow anyone to do anything with that selection?! It's crazy!
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Message 12242 - Posted: 27 Aug 2007, 15:50:05 UTC - in response to Message 12241.  

Why [...]?! It's crazy!

To drive you crazy! :-)

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Message 12259 - Posted: 31 Aug 2007, 0:19:10 UTC

My little wish ... transfers screen worked like messages, keeping a scroll back and offering copy all/copy selected like the message window.
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Message 12319 - Posted: 5 Sep 2007, 22:44:00 UTC

With a service install in vista (perhaps in BOINC version 6), can it be installed as "Automatic (delayed start)" instead of "automatic"? This will hold off starting the service until all the regular services have loaded, thus reducing the impact on the system when rebooting or from turning it on. Also, you can further reduce system impact in Vista by having the BOINC apps run with "low I/O priority" and "low memory priority". This will give greater priority to tasks the system and the user are running. Lastly, is it possible to have the task auto restart if it unexpectedly stops? I see it as an option that you can manually set, but I do not know if programs can set this when they are installed.
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Message 12322 - Posted: 6 Sep 2007, 1:59:10 UTC - in response to Message 12319.  

...service install...


If someone is going to address the above,
then how about also....

How does one VERIFY that the service starts and runs **BEFORE** anyone logs on (where username/password login setup)???

For example, after a power outage the machine boots up but no one logs on. Is the BOINC service running? It should be, but how to verify that?

Maybe the BOINC log will show earlier start time than when one logs on???

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Message 12325 - Posted: 6 Sep 2007, 3:32:27 UTC - in response to Message 12322.  

...service install...


If someone is going to address the above,
then how about also....

How does one VERIFY that the service starts and runs **BEFORE** anyone logs on (where username/password login setup)???

For example, after a power outage the machine boots up but no one logs on. Is the BOINC service running? It should be, but how to verify that?

Maybe the BOINC log will show earlier start time than when one logs on???

Correct. You can either log in and look at the logs, or use BOINC's remote access from another comp on the network to look at it.

I do have an issue with the delayed start on some of the older systems that auto log in when the comp starts up. If I have the BOINC manager to start when I log in, the service is not always running yet because other services are still loading. In this case, the manager will manually launch the BOINC process like it was installed as a single user. This is why I suggested using it with BOINC v6 for a service install is the only option and the manager can be rewritten to take that into accordance by not launching BOINC on its own.
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Message 12326 - Posted: 6 Sep 2007, 7:27:28 UTC - in response to Message 12325.  

The next version of BOINC is only going to be a service install.

If you do not want BOINC Manager to start up an instance of BOINC before the service has started, then don't check the option the start BOINC at Windows log on. All that does is put a shortcut to BM in you Startup folder. Do you really need to have instant access at all times to the GUI when you installed BOINC as a service? Wouldn't putting BM as a shortcut in the quick launch bar be easier?


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Message 12329 - Posted: 6 Sep 2007, 8:38:28 UTC - in response to Message 12326.  
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If you do not want BOINC Manager to start up an instance of BOINC before the service has started, then don't check the option the start BOINC at Windows log on. [...] Do you really need to have instant access at all times to the GUI when you installed BOINC as a service? Wouldn't putting BM as a shortcut in the quick launch bar be easier?

As delayed should mean "sometimes later when appropriate", then the same can actually happen few minutes after login, when BoincManager is started manually from a shortcut in the quick launch bar ;-)

In my opinion the solution for the pre-6.x BoincManager would be either a) to check whether the client is supposed to be started soon as a service and do not launch own child, or b) to provide an option (checkbox stored in registry, or some config file?) for (as T.M. suggested) not launching own client child process upon on manual startup. Currently BoincManager only checks whether it can connect to a local client and if not, it then launches its own one.

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