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Send message Joined: 10 Sep 05 Posts: 725 |
Recently, the Windows BOINC client stopped being able to communicate with some projects and with Science United. This is because of an expired entry in a file called the "certificate authority bundle". To fix this problem, download a new version of the file and put it in the C:/Program Files/BOINC directory. This is a temporary fix. We hope to release a new version of the client that won't have this problem in the future. |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15531 |
Directly trying to download this file into C:\Program Files\BOINC\ will not work, because you need elevated administrator rights to write files to the protected C:\Program Files\ directory. It may seem that the file gets downloaded and saved there, but the download manager in the browser will probably have flagged the file as Failed to have downloaded. To counter this, save the file elsewhere, for instance to C:\TMP\ (if it's not there, you can make it with File Explorer). When the file has saved there, copy it, then paste it into C:\Program Files\BOINC\ and when you get the window saying "You'll need to provide administrator permission to copy to this folder", click Continue or provide the main administrator's password. Only then will this file save to the folder. |
Send message Joined: 7 Aug 11 Posts: 4 |
Thank you very much ! Seems to work well for the time being. |
Send message Joined: 29 Mar 21 Posts: 2 |
You could made it simple to use without all of the problems it has now |
Send message Joined: 29 Mar 17 Posts: 13 |
You could made it simple to use without all of the problems it has now Do you have an exact idea or example how it could be made simple and without all these problems? |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5111 |
Do you have an exact idea or example how it could be made simple and without all these problems?For many years, I maintained the installer which stopped BOINC (if running), installed optimised applications for SETI@Home in the correct place, stitched together an app_info.xml file to service the optional choices made, and restarted BOINC if needed. Replacing a single file - not needing a stop-start cycle - would be a doddle by comparison. But I'm not going to make one because 1) This problem will be fixed before I could complete and test it. 2) It wouldn't work when the support files are locked up inside the main file. 3) We're going to move to an updated version of the support software. 4) I tested a new version that doesn't even need support software or a certificate bundle this morning. 5) I'm too old |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15531 |
5) I'm too oldThat goes without saying. |
Send message Joined: 29 Mar 21 Posts: 2 |
Vitali you could have done a step by step process on how to get the temporary workaround to work as not all people that running BOINC are very good at computers.I downloaded the temporary workaround but still cant to seem to get it to work.Next time when you have a problem like this you can get the word out faster to the people that BOINC has a problem and that their is a temporary workaround and in the future announce that you have a permanent solution |
Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 20 |
hello experts, I tried to upload results to Universe@home without success. I tried to use this download adress;: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/ca-bundle. but I get the following message "Dieses Zertifikat ist bereits als Zertifizierungsstelle installiert." I found an entry in the Universe@home forum and dowloaded the file ca-bundle.crt from https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XC3XHmjaZRYvJ2P3OzFaW62i4ShYThz8/view and installed it. Then I terminated BOINC and started it again. The upload problem continues: 07.10.2021 11:11:42 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095117905_20000_1-999999_120100_1_r320361067_4 07.10.2021 11:11:42 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095117905_20000_1-999999_120100_1_r320361067_5 07.10.2021 11:11:45 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095117905_20000_1-999999_120100_1_r320361067_5: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:45 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:06:09 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095117905_20000_1-999999_120100_1_r320361067_5 07.10.2021 11:11:45 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095117905_20000_1-999999_120100_1_r320361067_4: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:45 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:09:46 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095117905_20000_1-999999_120100_1_r320361067_4 07.10.2021 11:11:45 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_0 07.10.2021 11:11:45 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_1 07.10.2021 11:11:45 | Einstein@Home | Invalid global preferences supplied, please check https://einsteinathome.org/community/forum/19 on how to fix that. 07.10.2021 11:11:47 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_0: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:47 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:06:08 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_0 07.10.2021 11:11:47 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_1: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:47 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:04:17 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_1 07.10.2021 11:11:47 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_0 07.10.2021 11:11:47 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_1 07.10.2021 11:11:48 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_0: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:48 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:03:54 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_0 07.10.2021 11:11:48 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_1: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:48 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:03:52 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_1 07.10.2021 11:11:48 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_2 07.10.2021 11:11:48 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_3 07.10.2021 11:11:49 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_2: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:49 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:03:37 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_2 07.10.2021 11:11:49 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_3: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:49 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:02:55 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_3 07.10.2021 11:11:49 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_4 07.10.2021 11:11:49 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_5 07.10.2021 11:11:50 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_4: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:50 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:02:54 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_4 07.10.2021 11:11:50 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_5: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:50 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:02:52 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095177905_20000_1-999999_180100_1_r650056024_5 07.10.2021 11:11:57 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095117905_20000_1-999999_120100_1_r320361067_0 07.10.2021 11:11:57 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_2 07.10.2021 11:11:57 | Gerasim@home | Invalid request received. Cannot load request into XmlDocument. Invalid character in the given encoding. Line 151, position 6. 07.10.2021 11:11:59 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095117905_20000_1-999999_120100_1_r320361067_0: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:59 | Universe@Home | Backing off 05:04:12 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095117905_20000_1-999999_120100_1_r320361067_0 07.10.2021 11:11:59 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_2: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:11:59 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:04:58 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_2 07.10.2021 11:11:59 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_3 07.10.2021 11:11:59 | Universe@Home | Started upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_4 07.10.2021 11:12:00 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_3: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:12:00 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:06:23 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_3 07.10.2021 11:12:00 | Universe@Home | Temporarily failed upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_4: transient HTTP error 07.10.2021 11:12:00 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:06:50 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_378_2095122905_20000_1-999999_125100_1_r148799003_4 07.10.2021 11:12:06 | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 07.10.2021 11:12:07 | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. So please could you tell me what to do? thanks Dr.Mabuse Intel 4-proc-CPU, Windows 7 Pro |
Send message Joined: 17 Nov 16 Posts: 883 |
Look for other copies of the ca-bundle.crt file in the host other than the only needed one in the BOINC folder. Those are the ones that keep BOINC from connecting. Either remove or replace/edit them. |
Send message Joined: 2 Jul 14 Posts: 17 |
Look for other copies of the ca-bundle.crt file in the host other than the only needed one in the BOINC folder. Those are the ones that keep BOINC from connecting. Either remove or replace/edit them. Just to note I had a version of BOINC installed from Jan of 2020 and worked fine until I updated at the end of September so the ca-bundle.crt that was installed at the end of last month caused my issue. They need to update the Client Software as well. I downloaded my version on the 27th of September. Crunching@EVGA The Number One Team in the BOINC Community. Folding@EVGA The Number One Team in the Folding@Home Community. |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5111 |
I think the bundle in the old version would have expired at the end of September too. I think it's just coincidence that you updated at the same time (near enough) as the certificate problem first struck. |
Send message Joined: 17 Oct 21 Posts: 2 |
I have the same issue with my Android-Smartphones (I'm calculating on universe@home with 6 phones) is there already a solution or update for it? |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15531 |
Which BOINC are you running? I run only Universe@Home on my 4 Android devices and they're still getting normal contact with the project. Using BOINC https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_7.18.1.apk (and yes, this new version is only available from the BOINC website) |
Send message Joined: 8 Mar 14 Posts: 7 |
Thanks for this tip. I had been refused work until I removed and tried to re-attch GPU Grid and a couple of new projects as tests. Then I found I couldn't- and wondered if my kit had gone out of approval on GPU work, until I found this thread. I see the new version of Boinc has the new crt file, so this shouldn't carry on needlessly - if people update. Cheers. |
Send message Joined: 17 Oct 21 Posts: 2 |
Which BOINC are you running? I run only Universe@Home on my 4 Android devices and they're still getting normal contact with the project. Using BOINC https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_7.18.1.apk (and yes, this new version is only available from the BOINC website) I used the version that I downloaded from the Play Store, it was 7.4.53. But now I installed 7.18.1 (interesting, why is it only available here on the website?) and it works! Thank you! |
Send message Joined: 26 Mar 11 Posts: 185 |
On the Universe forum there is a tread where users are asking Linux specific questions regarding how to update their flavor of Linux. I am not qualified to respond to them. Does anyone here wish the volunteer to be a White Knight ? https://universeathome.pl/universe/forum_thread.php?id=600 Thanks Bill F In October 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; There was no expiration date. |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5111 |
In general, Linux versions of BOINC use the operating system's own versions of the SSL certificates. So, if they fail, the solution is to update Linux, rather than BOINC. But there are so many different flavours of Linux, and so many different implementations of BOINC, that it's hard to give general advice. |
Send message Joined: 26 Mar 11 Posts: 185 |
In general, Linux versions of BOINC use the operating system's own versions of the SSL certificates. So, if they fail, the solution is to update Linux, rather than BOINC. Richard Your prediction .... We've already been warned that the 'GlobalSign Root CA - R2' certificate is due to expire in just over 2 months time, on 15 December this year, and that's number 2 in the new bundle https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/4530#issuecomment-933664532 May have caught up with the T.Brada Experimental Grid about then my system could not reach the Server even though it appears to be Up with no work to send. In October 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; There was no expiration date. |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5111 |
No, it's T.Brada's certificate that expired, on 19 December. At least, that's assuming they use the same one for their web site. |
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