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Message 103722 - Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 16:22:40 UTC

There must be a lot of programmers in here. And apparently a fair number of programmers like to use proportional fonts (faster to read). But I've never found one which has unique characters (eye, ell, one), which is an absolute for programming. There must be one out there somewhere. Do I really have to make my own?
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Message 103728 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 4:58:43 UTC - in response to Message 103722.  

There must be a lot of programmers in here. And apparently a fair number of programmers like to use proportional fonts (faster to read). But I've never found one which has unique characters (eye, ell, one), which is an absolute for programming. There must be one out there somewhere. Do I really have to make my own?

Answered at Einstein@home and you mean mono spaced.
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Message 103738 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 15:21:37 UTC - in response to Message 103722.  

L l - ell 
I i - eye 
1 - one 
| - pipe


these all look unique to me with no confusion, and all are mono-spaced. pretty standard.
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Message 103740 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 15:40:40 UTC - in response to Message 103738.  
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Funny... when doing 1 and l (lower case ell) just in an answer window, it shows as:
1 l

But when doing it in a code container, the l looks similar to the 1.
 1 l

Why does the code container have a different font than the rest of the forums?
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Message 103741 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 15:50:10 UTC - in response to Message 103740.  
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Funny... when doing 1 and l (lower case ell) just in an answer window, it shows as:
1 l

But when doing it in a code container, the l looks similar to the 1.
 1 l

Why does the code container have a different font than the rest of the forums?


I dunno, it seems totally normal to me that something in [code] tags would have the standard mono spaced "code" font. I'm sure it's just a stylistic choice since the normal "non code" font of the forums just looks more polished and not so robotic and dated. I'm going to guess that the forum is using Courier New for stuff inside code tags. this font has been around for ages.

i dont think the "l" and "1" look similar at all. easy to see that they are different in my opinion. but Peter asked for unique, and they are objectively unique.
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Message 103742 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 15:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 103740.  

Why does the code container have a different font than the rest of the forums?
The code container uses a fixed-width font - every character is giver the same width - which makes it easier to line up indents / columns / numeric tables.

Proportional fonts, as the OP requested, make it much harder to do that.

iiiiiiiiii
wwwwwwwwww
iiiiiiiiii
wwwwwwwwww
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Message 103743 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 17:12:39 UTC - in response to Message 103728.  

There must be a lot of programmers in here. And apparently a fair number of programmers like to use proportional fonts (faster to read). But I've never found one which has unique characters (eye, ell, one), which is an absolute for programming. There must be one out there somewhere. Do I really have to make my own?

Answered at Einstein@home and you mean mono spaced.
I thought mono spaced meant they were all the same width, and proportional meant they were variable width?
I've yet to find a variable width font where I can distinguish all characters. It amazes me that font designers make this schoolboy error.
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Message 103744 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 17:33:43 UTC - in response to Message 103743.  

programmers care about mono spaced so that things line up well. makes it easier to read and understand. you wont find any programmers who want proportional.

you're unlikely to misunderstand which letter is supposed to be which in normal proportional fonts if you use simple reasoning and context clues.
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Message 103745 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 17:42:20 UTC - in response to Message 103744.  
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programmers care about mono spaced so that things line up well. makes it easier to read and understand. you wont find any programmers who want proportional.
I found several mentions on forums using a google search that some do.

you're unlikely to misunderstand which letter is supposed to be which in normal proportional fonts if you use simple reasoning and context clues.
Until someone adds some technical info. Anyway I found one, Verdana. It's the one Einstein forums use. Proportional, no serifs until they're needed. LlIi1 all unique, unlike in here. Look at that capital eye! Just a straight line!

Trouble is, I can't get my browser to override the web page fonts. Is this possible?
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Message 103747 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 19:07:32 UTC - in response to Message 103745.  

Trouble is, I can't get my browser to override the web page fonts. Is this possible?

depends on the browser and what preference choices are available. but watch out for turning it into gibberish
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Message 103754 - Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 17:56:11 UTC - in response to Message 103747.  

Trouble is, I can't get my browser to override the web page fonts. Is this possible?
depends on the browser and what preference choices are available. but watch out for turning it into gibberish
It seems every browser but Opera allows it. Opera support said it would need a plugin, but there isn't one. I've even got a plugin that allows me to use Firefox plugins, but there isn't one, since Firefox does it anyway.

Why would it turn it into gibberish?
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Message 103758 - Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 20:41:51 UTC - in response to Message 103754.  

Why would it turn it into gibberish?
Different special character sets for one.
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Message 103772 - Posted: 31 Mar 2021, 18:05:39 UTC - in response to Message 103758.  

Why would it turn it into gibberish?
Different special character sets for one.
Very rarely would I need those on a webpage.
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Message 103862 - Posted: 6 Apr 2021, 14:28:39 UTC - in response to Message 103722.  

The proportional font is a font where each character occupies only as much width as it needs. A monospaced font is a font where each character occupies the same amount of space on a horizontal line of text. Also, you can download amazing fonts from here: https://blogwithjoy.com/free-unique-fonts/.
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