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Message 98732 - Posted: 21 May 2020, 23:10:47 UTC

I've been running BOINC projects for years- decades- (SETI from before BOINC), but now, with the last three version/updates to the BOINC Manager, I've encountered the following problems, which did not all show up at once:

1) Under "add project" I get no list of projects- it's just blank. I am able to add a project only if I know the name of a project ahead of time, and know its URL. I can hen add it by typing in the URL.

2) With no input from me, BOINC Manager keeps reporting " Task suspended by user". If I restart it he task, the same thing has occurred if I go check on it an hour later. I can do this all day long.

3) I start running a task, it runs for a while, but after completing some random single-digit percentage of the task, the "Status" column reads: " Postponed: VM job unmanageable , restarting later" If I restart BOINC, this goes away for a while, runs the task, but eventually returns.

I am running Windows 10 on a computer purchased new in 2019.

--Grindylow

I am on the verge of not meeting the deadlines for quite a number of projects because of the "Postponed" and "suspended" issues.

Any insight is greatly appreciated. This is all atypical behavior.
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Message 98734 - Posted: 22 May 2020, 6:05:03 UTC - in response to Message 98732.  

Can you post your BOINC messages from the Event Log, please?

One with task, file_xfer and sched,_op enabled and preferably showing both events happening.
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Message 98755 - Posted: 23 May 2020, 18:16:08 UTC - in response to Message 98734.  

I think I failed to mention my BOINC Manager version is 7.16.5

5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.16.5 for windows_x86_64
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2s zlib/1.2.8
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Running under account grind
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 600 (driver version 26.20.100.7372, device version OpenCL 1.2 NEO, 1568MB, 1568MB available, 62 GFLOPS peak)
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 7.6.0.0814, device version OpenCL 2.1 (Build 0))
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Windows processor group 0: 2 processors
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Host name: LAPTOP-R3S53PUR
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz [Family 6 Model 122 Stepping 1]
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes rdrandsyscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe fsgsbase smep
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | OS: Microsoft Windows 10: Core x64 Edition, (10.00.18363.00)
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Memory: 3.83 GB physical, 4.51 GB virtual
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Disk: 28.07 GB total, 7.31 GB free
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Local time is UTC -7 hours
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | No WSL found.
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | VirtualBox version: 6.0.14
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | climateprediction.net | General prefs: from climateprediction.net (last modified 15-May-2020 09:31:19)
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | climateprediction.net | Computer location: home
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | General prefs: using separate prefs for home
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | Preferences:
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | max memory usage when active: 1959.56 MB
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | max memory usage when idle: 3527.21 MB
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | max disk usage: 9.78 GB
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 80%
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | Setting up project and slot directories
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | Checking active tasks
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Asteroids@home | URL http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/; Computer ID 585397; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | climateprediction.net | URL https://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID 1476811; resource share 10
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Cosmology@Home | URL http://www.cosmologyathome.org/; Computer ID 379232; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Einstein@Home | URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 12794162; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Milkyway@Home | URL http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID 794538; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Rosetta@home | URL https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 3581607; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Science United | URL https://scienceunited.org/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Universe@Home | URL https://universeathome.pl/universe/; Computer ID 538745; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 5150184; resource share 50
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | Setting up GUI RPC socket
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | Checking presence of 179 project files
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Science United | Fetching scheduler list
5/23/2020 10:25:45 | Science United | [error] No scheduler URLs found in master file
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.16.5 for windows_x86_64
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2s zlib/1.2.8
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Running under account grind
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 600 (driver version 26.20.100.7372, device version OpenCL 1.2 NEO, 1568MB, 1568MB available, 62 GFLOPS peak)
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 7.6.0.0814, device version OpenCL 2.1 (Build 0))
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Windows processor group 0: 2 processors
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Host name: LAPTOP-R3S53PUR
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz [Family 6 Model 122 Stepping 1]
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes rdrandsyscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe fsgsbase smep
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | OS: Microsoft Windows 10: Core x64 Edition, (10.00.18363.00)
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Memory: 3.83 GB physical, 4.51 GB virtual
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Disk: 28.07 GB total, 7.31 GB free
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Local time is UTC -7 hours
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | No WSL found.
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | VirtualBox version: 6.0.14
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | climateprediction.net | General prefs: from climateprediction.net (last modified 15-May-2020 09:31:19)
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | climateprediction.net | Computer location: home
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | General prefs: using separate prefs for home
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | Preferences:
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | max memory usage when active: 1959.56 MB
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | max memory usage when idle: 3527.21 MB
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | max disk usage: 9.78 GB
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 80%
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | Setting up project and slot directories
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | Checking active tasks
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Asteroids@home | URL http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/; Computer ID 585397; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | climateprediction.net | URL https://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID 1476811; resource share 10
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Cosmology@Home | URL http://www.cosmologyathome.org/; Computer ID 379232; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Einstein@Home | URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 12794162; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Milkyway@Home | URL http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID 794538; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Rosetta@home | URL https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 3581607; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Science United | URL https://scienceunited.org/; Computer ID not assigned yet; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Universe@Home | URL https://universeathome.pl/universe/; Computer ID 538745; resource share 100
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 5150184; resource share 50
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | Setting up GUI RPC socket
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | | Checking presence of 179 project files
5/23/2020 10:25:43 | Science United | Fetching scheduler list
5/23/2020 10:25:45 | Science United | [error] No scheduler URLs found in master file


Incidentally, I recently added "Science United" to my projects list, and I keep receiving emails from them saying :We haven't heard form your computer yet: When I look under my list of projects, the "Status" of Science United is always: Communication deferred."

Please let me know if you need a complete list of all my projects. I now have 9 of them.

Thanks for taking a look at this.
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Message 98756 - Posted: 23 May 2020, 18:31:49 UTC - in response to Message 98755.  

Science United is not a project but an account manager. You don't add it via the Add Projects wizard but via the account manager wizard. If you don't plan on using an account manager, remove Science United.

Now for something completely different: please open BOINC Manager, View->Advanced view->Options->Event Log options->make sure only task, file_xfer and sched_op are checked->Save.

After that wait a full round for communications with your projects and post the event log again.

While in Advanced view, Tasks tab, make sure that on the left it says "Show active tasks", not "Show all tasks". If it says "Show all tasks", click this button so it changes to "Show active tasks". This button shows the option you have, not the state it is in.
When in he All tasks view, are any of the tasks now showing they're suspended (by you, or other means)?
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Message 98757 - Posted: 23 May 2020, 19:28:56 UTC - in response to Message 98756.  

Thanks for the heads up on Science United. I don't know how I missed that- just long habits of adding projects, I guess. Operating in "autopilot" mode.

Those were the only boxes checked in Event Log options, so I left it alone. Those were the three boxes checked when I posted my last event log. Do you still want me to repost?

I always show all tasks, and I currently have 6 "Cosmology@Home" tasks that all say: "Postponed: VM job unmanageable, restarting later. (2 CPUs)". If I restart BOINC, these projects will run normally for a while, complete about another 2%, then generate this message again. I have allowed a little over a day for them to "restart later", but that's never happened. There is no restarting (in that time frame, anyway).

I currently have no "suspended" tasks.[/quote]
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Message 98758 - Posted: 23 May 2020, 19:57:45 UTC - in response to Message 98757.  

Due to a code-mismatch, 7.16.5 doesn't start the default log flags of task, sched_ops and file_xfer. You can see that in your event log, as the second line will always show what the log flags are, like this showing from my machine:

23/05/2020 21:46:22 |  | Starting BOINC client version 7.16.5 for windows_x86_64
23/05/2020 21:46:22 |  | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, checkpoint_debug, coproc_debug, sched_op_debug
23/05/2020 21:46:22 |  | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2s zlib/1.2.8
23/05/2020 21:46:22 |  | Data directory: G:\BOINC

When checking your event log it goes:
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.16.5 for windows_x86_64
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2s zlib/1.2.8
5/23/2020 10:25:37 | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC

Going into the Event Log options menu and clicking Save will fix that. Then you have a lot more information about things happening in the background.

As for your Cosmology trouble, see http://www.cosmologyathome.org/forum_thread.php?id=7711#22484 for advice (and possibly post into it).
We don't generally give help here about project tasks, because you then should happen to come across someone knowledgeable about those and that's better done at the project's boards.

I've noticed now that it takes quite a while for my BOINC to start up - I have no tasks running in it, yet it took almost 40 seconds to populate the manager. As long as the manager hasn't yet communicated with the client, you can't use things like the add project wizard's projects as they haven't been read in yet.
23/05/2020 21:46:23 |  | Setting up project and slot directories
23/05/2020 21:47:02 |  | Checking active tasks

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Message 98762 - Posted: 23 May 2020, 22:56:56 UTC - in response to Message 98758.  

Thank you for your quick and helpful replies. I'll try that link you sent.
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