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JSDeBruyn

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Message 93934 - Posted: 28 Nov 2019, 13:23:38 UTC

Boinc version 7.14.2 (x64) widgets 3.0.1

- No projects listed to choose from in manager
- Trying to attach to Setiathome
- URL entry yields a "no work for your type computer. Do you want to add anyway?
- 'yes' yields brief "communicating w project" followed by "temporarily unavailable. try later."
- 'finish' yields the popup closure and "localhost" being replaced w "disconnected"

I have tried reinstalling, network reset, network settings changes, even copying Boinc from another machine where it works, all to no avail. I have to be missing something simple...
HELP!

Following is System Information summary:
OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Version 10.0.18363 Build 18363
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name ASUSPN40PC4TV
System Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
System Model PN40
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU
Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz, 1101 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. (Licensed from AMI) 1204, 9/24/2019
SMBIOS Version 3.1
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
BaseBoard Product PN40
BaseBoard Version To be filled by O.E.M.
Platform Role Desktop
Secure Boot State Off
PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.18362.387"
User Name ASUSPN40PC4TV\Scott DeBruyn
Time Zone Pacific Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 3.82 GB
Available Physical Memory 954 MB
Total Virtual Memory 4.64 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.07 GB
Page File Space 832 MB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: TPM is not usable, PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not Modern Standby, TPM is not usable
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware No
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes
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Message 93935 - Posted: 28 Nov 2019, 13:53:53 UTC

Let's start with a couple of questions that may help get an answer...
First, where did you get the copy of BOINC you first tried from?
Second, you say you tried copying BOINC from another computer - SETI reports you haven't contacted their serves in about ten years, did you try to use a copy from one of the those old computers?
And, for now, have you allowed BOINC to communicate through any firewall that may be in the path to the outside world?

(Finally, SETI has a good Q&A section, so you might get some other answers over there - https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_help_desk.php )
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Message 93936 - Posted: 28 Nov 2019, 15:25:55 UTC - in response to Message 93935.  

Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 3.82 GB
Available Physical Memory 954 MB


When you do manage to attach to project(s) 954MB available physical memory is rather on the low side for two cores. I know that SETI doesn't take up the amounts LHC@home or CPDN do but you are in danger of slowing down due to disk swapping there. I am curious as to what is taking up so much memory. only 954MB or Ram seems very low for a 4GB system. (Unless I am underestimating Windows 10's greed?)
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Message 93937 - Posted: 28 Nov 2019, 16:49:31 UTC

SETI will install, but may produce errors on less than 1Gb free. However this issue appears while trying to connect to the servers. Windows 10 is very good(bad) at grabbing an excessive amount of memory - my work laptop with 4Gb installed frequently shows well under 1Gb free with "nothing" running, and then spend the first hour or more sorting its life out with endless paging until "something" is unloaded from memory and suddenly the free jumps to a more respectable ~3Gb.
One thing just crossed my mind - SETI has a weekly outage on Tuesdays - you didn't try to connect then by any chance?
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Message 93938 - Posted: 28 Nov 2019, 18:19:13 UTC - in response to Message 93937.  

Thanks for clearing that up Rob. I have been Windows free this century other than occasionally googling to sort out problems with partner's laptop so am a bit out of date on what Windows does with memory.
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Message 93941 - Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 9:52:43 UTC - in response to Message 93935.  
Last modified: 29 Nov 2019, 9:59:12 UTC

robsmith
Let's start with a couple of questions that may help get an answer...
First, where did you get the copy of BOINC you first tried from?
Second, you say you tried copying BOINC from another computer - SETI reports you haven't contacted their serves in about ten years, did you try to use a copy from one of the those old computers?
And, for now, have you allowed BOINC to communicate through any firewall that may be in the path to the outside world?

(Finally, SETI has a good Q&A section, so you might get some other answers over there - https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_help_desk.php )
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1) Boinc website pointed to by Setiathome at Berkeley.edu
2) Tried with same results, removed it and reinstalled from Boinc website (again at Berkeley.edu website)
2b) I have a group (Dutchman Electronics since 22 Nov 2005, 6PC's, last contact today, main PC ID8480367, top 25% average), so don't know what you were looking at?
3) This may be the problem... I use Vipre security... I'm going to check other machine...No references to Boinc or Seti, but it does have a firewall 'learning' mode which monitors and requires an 'accept' / 'deny' on every new access. I'll give that a try and repost later today. I recall something here, although I don't recall if it was Boinc/Seti related. Will know shortly.
4) The help desk didn't seem to offer much on this error/problem... hence this post & thread.

I just realized that the user I'm logged in as is jsdebruyn, where in the past and currently running machines they are JSDeBruyn. That may be a reason for the '10 years ago' note you made in your post Rob... assuming case sensitivity.
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Message 93943 - Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 10:11:23 UTC - in response to Message 93941.  

Do remember that BOINC consists of two components, the Client and the Manager. They communicate over TCP/IP, port 31416.

First check - is the client running? Dies boinc.exe appear in Windows task manager?
Second check - can that purely internal network traffic pass through your security device/software?
Third check - can boinc.exe (only) communicate externally over both port 80 and port 443 (http and https respectively)?
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Message 93945 - Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 10:57:13 UTC - in response to Message 93943.  

Do remember that BOINC consists of two components, the Client and the Manager. They communicate over TCP/IP, port 31416.

First check - is the client running? Dies boinc.exe appear in Windows task manager?
Second check - can that purely internal network traffic pass through your security device/software?
Third check - can boinc.exe (only) communicate externally over both port 80 and port 443 (http and https respectively)?

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First) Client does not appear to be running. No Boinc.exe, but Boinc Manager is.
Second) Honestly, the way the Boinc manager acts (no project list populated and URL kicks out the warning "no work for your type computer" AND "Project not available, check later" AND Boinc manager status as disconnected lead me to believe it can't. Though 6 other machines on my network can... all using the same Vipre security software. I just tried the 'learning' mode and went through complete remove/reinstall of Boinc which made me manually 'allow' by rule at least a dozen network, port, protocol entries.
Third) Again, unsure.
You know, I have replaced my router since last I installed a Boinc and, for that matter, a new PC. I wonder if I need to 'introduce' my new PC to my Router?! I'll check and keep this post posted on results.
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Message 93946 - Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 11:11:52 UTC - in response to Message 93945.  

Concentrate on the first item first, then. If the client isn't running, nothing else can possibly work.

Review where the program has been installed. In this day and age, you will probably be running the 64-bit version. You would expect to find that in C:\Program Files\BOINC, although you are at liberty to change that during installation. Go to that (or your chosen) directory, and double-click on the boinc application. That may reveal installation errors like missing DLLs.
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Message 93948 - Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 12:30:45 UTC - in response to Message 93945.  

Router and configurable switches not the issue. At least no settings to allow or block this PC.
Added Boinc.exe as an app to Vipre's Firewall rules.
All = no joy...
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Message 93949 - Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 12:36:04 UTC - in response to Message 93948.  

But is boinc.exe running? That has to happen first.

By default, boinc.exe is started as a consequence of starting BOINC Manager. But mis-configuration can prevent that. You have to concentrate on getting it running first.
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Message 94138 - Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 10:01:10 UTC

Well it took $30 and a 6 day wait and this machine now has 8GB of memory. No joy. I still think there is a problem with this particular mini PC not being recognized as a machine capable of Seti (or anything else Boinc related). I recall seeing somewhere that there is a 'machine type' identifying string that could be modified. My reasoning here is the nature of the error message, to the effect of, 'Project doesn't have work for your type of computer.' and then asking if I want to connect anyway. Recall that my initial problem is that there are NO projects from which to choose in the project list.
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Message 94139 - Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 10:04:33 UTC - in response to Message 94138.  

If boinc.exe is now running, you will be able to access the Event Log. Copy the first 30 lines or so, including all the startup and identification lines, and paste them here - we can take a look.
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Message 94140 - Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 12:20:53 UTC - in response to Message 94139.  
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Sorry I didn't note your reply quicker. I was busy researching and trying stuff.
Boinc.exe is NOT running. That's the problem, when the manager offers to open/connect to a project, the list of projects does not populate and adding a project URL dies on the vine as 'no work for your TYPE of computer'. No local host connection = no boinc.exe running (at least as far as I can tell).

Best I can find as to any recent 'log' is from stdoutdae.txt. Here's the last attempt from near the end of that file:

10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.14.2 for windows_x86_64
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Running under account Scott DeBruyn
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 600 (driver version 26.20.100.7263, device version OpenCL 1.2 NEO, 3205MB, 3205MB available, 62 GFLOPS peak)
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 7.6.0.0814, device version OpenCL 2.1 (Build 0))
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Host name: ASUSPN40PC4TV
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz [Family 6 Model 122 Stepping 1]
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes rdrandsyscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe fsgsbase smep
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] OS: Microsoft Windows 10: Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.18363.00)
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Memory: 7.82 GB physical, 9.07 GB virtual
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Disk: 111.16 GB total, 77.44 GB free
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Local time is UTC -8 hours
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] No WSL found.
10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Last benchmark was 18240 days 12:47:11 ago
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] No general preferences found - using defaults
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] Preferences:
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] max memory usage when active: 4005.76 MB
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] max memory usage when idle: 7210.37 MB
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] max disk usage: 77.34 GB
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] don't use GPU while active
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25%
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] Setting up project and slot directories
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] Checking active tasks
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] Setting up GUI RPC socket
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] Checking presence of 0 project files
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] This computer is not attached to any projects
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 Initialization completed
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] Suspending GPU computation - computer is in use
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.14.2 for windows_x86_64
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] Running under account Scott DeBruyn
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 600 (driver version 26.20.100.7263, device version OpenCL 1.2 NEO, 3205MB, 3205MB available, 62 GFLOPS peak)
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 7.6.0.0814, device version OpenCL 2.1 (Build 0))
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] Host name: ASUSPN40PC4TV
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz [Family 6 Model 122 Stepping 1]
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes rdrandsyscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe fsgsbase smep
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] OS: Microsoft Windows 10: Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.18363.00)
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] Memory: 7.82 GB physical, 9.07 GB virtual
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] Disk: 111.16 GB total, 77.44 GB free
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] Local time is UTC -8 hours
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] No WSL found.
10-Dec-2019 04:49:24 [---] Last benchmark was 18240 days 12:49:23 ago
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] No general preferences found - using defaults
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] Preferences:
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] max memory usage when active: 4005.76 MB
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] max memory usage when idle: 7210.37 MB
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] max disk usage: 77.34 GB
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] don't use GPU while active
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25%
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] Setting up project and slot directories
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] Checking active tasks
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] Setting up GUI RPC socket
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] Checking presence of 0 project files
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] This computer is not attached to any projects
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 Initialization completed
10-Dec-2019 04:49:29 [---] Suspending GPU computation - computer is in use

The only other recent data is from client_state.xml which looks like:

<?xml version="1.0"?>

-<client_state>


-<host_info>

<timezone>-28800</timezone>

<domain_name>ASUSPN40PC4TV</domain_name>

<ip_addr>192.168.1.38</ip_addr>

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<p_vendor>GenuineIntel</p_vendor>

<p_model>Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz [Family 6 Model 122 Stepping 1]</p_model>

<p_features>fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes rdrandsyscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe fsgsbase smep</p_features>

<p_fpops>1000000000.000000</p_fpops>

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<p_vm_extensions_disabled>0</p_vm_extensions_disabled>

<m_nbytes>8400691200.000000</m_nbytes>

<m_cache>4194304.000000</m_cache>

<m_swap>9742868480.000000</m_swap>

<d_total>119356260352.000000</d_total>

<d_free>83148931072.000000</d_free>

<os_name>Microsoft Windows 10</os_name>

<os_version>Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.18363.00)</os_version>

<n_usable_coprocs>1</n_usable_coprocs>

<wsl_available>0</wsl_available>


-<coprocs>


-<coproc_intel_gpu>

<count>1</count>

<name>Intel(R) UHD Graphics 600</name>

<available_ram>3360276480.000000</available_ram>

<have_opencl>1</have_opencl>

<peak_flops>62400000000.000000</peak_flops>

<version/>


-<coproc_opencl>

<name>Intel(R) UHD Graphics 600</name>

<vendor>Intel(R) Corporation</vendor>

<vendor_id>32902</vendor_id>

<available>1</available>

<half_fp_config>63</half_fp_config>

<single_fp_config>191</single_fp_config>

<double_fp_config>63</double_fp_config>

<endian_little>1</endian_little>

<execution_capabilities>1</execution_capabilities>

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<global_mem_size>3360276480</global_mem_size>

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<max_clock_frequency>650</max_clock_frequency>

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</coproc_opencl>

</coproc_intel_gpu>

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-<opencl_cpu_prop>

<platform_vendor>Intel(R) Corporation</platform_vendor>


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<name>Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz</name>

<vendor>Intel(R) Corporation</vendor>

<vendor_id>32902</vendor_id>

<available>1</available>

<half_fp_config>0</half_fp_config>

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<execution_capabilities>3</execution_capabilities>

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<global_mem_size>8400691200</global_mem_size>

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<max_clock_frequency>1100</max_clock_frequency>

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<nv_compute_capability_minor>0</nv_compute_capability_minor>

<amd_simd_per_compute_unit>0</amd_simd_per_compute_unit>

<amd_simd_width>0</amd_simd_width>

<amd_simd_instruction_width>0</amd_simd_instruction_width>

<opencl_platform_version>OpenCL 2.1</opencl_platform_version>

<opencl_device_version>OpenCL 2.1 (Build 0)</opencl_device_version>

<opencl_driver_version>7.6.0.0814</opencl_driver_version>

</opencl_cpu_info>

</opencl_cpu_prop>

</host_info>


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<active_task_set> </active_task_set>

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<user_gpu_prev_request>2</user_gpu_prev_request>

<user_network_request>2</user_network_request>

<new_version_check_time>0.000000</new_version_check_time>

<all_projects_list_check_time>0.000000</all_projects_list_check_time>

<client_version_check_url>https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php?xml=1</client_version_check_url>

<alt_platform>windows_intelx86</alt_platform>

</client_state>
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Message 94141 - Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 12:40:27 UTC
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Open BOINC Manager (it doesn't matter in this if the client runs or not), View, Advanced view, Options, Other options, General, if it isn't checked then check "Run the client?", Save. File->Exit->acknowledge to exit. Next restart BOINC Manager, does that start the client and keep it running?
Else open Windows Event Viewer (Start->Run, type eventvwr.exe and tap Enter, then wait for it to populate), in the Windows Logs, Application check through the Application Errors if there's any mention of what happens to boinc.exe, if you find something post that here.

In BOINC Data directory, stdoutdae.txt, anything of note in there?
Same directory, in stdoutdae.txt, any mention there what happens?

How did you install BOINC? With your user account, or did you use "Run as administrator" on the installer? The latter is not advised, as this will cause all kinds of permission problems. An administrator account is needed for the installation of BOINC, but not the super user administrator. And did you check "Allow all users on this computer to control BOINC" in the installer?
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Message 94142 - Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 12:47:34 UTC - in response to Message 94141.  

A delusion starts like any other idea, as an egg. Identical on the outside, perfectly formed. From the shell, you'd never know anything was wrong.


The shell is usually where I go to find out what is wrong! ;)
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Message 94143 - Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 12:56:50 UTC - in response to Message 94142.  
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A delusion starts like any other idea, as an egg. Identical on the outside, perfectly formed. From the shell, you'd never know anything was wrong.
The shell is usually where I go to find out what is wrong! ;)
Ah but that's where you'd go wrong in the case of a delusion. :)
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Message 94144 - Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 13:26:03 UTC - in response to Message 94140.  

No local host connection = no boinc.exe running (at least as far as I can tell).
Yup, that's a good takeaway. Conversely, boinc.exe has to be running in order for connection to be made.

10-Dec-2019 04:47:11 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.14.2 for windows_x86_64
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 Initialization completed
10-Dec-2019 04:47:16 [---] Suspending GPU computation - computer is in use
...
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.14.2 for windows_x86_64
So boinc has run, for just over two minutes. That behaviour can happen if the cooling system is completely broken (enough time to reach shutdown temperature), but it's unlikely in this case - (a) overheating usually crashes the whole computer, not just one app, and (b) with no science apps, there's not really much heat generated - not even benchmarks.

@other helpers - didn't we have a problem with one of those low-power Intel chips failing to run 64-bit SSL routines? Might be worth a try with a 32-bit BOINC while we look up 'Celeron(R) N4000 CPU'.
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Message 94145 - Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 13:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 94141.  

Open BOINC Manager (it doesn't matter in this if the client runs or not), View, Advanced view, Options, Other options, General, if it isn't checked then check "Run the client?", Save. File->Exit->acknowledge to exit. Next restart BOINC Manager, does that start the client and keep it running? ---No joy, already set.---
Else open Windows Event Viewer (Start->Run, type eventvwr.exe and tap Enter, then wait for it to populate), in the Windows Logs, Application check through the Application Errors if there's any mention of what happens to boinc.exe, if you find something post that here.

----many instancs of the following:

Faulting application name: boinc.exe, version: 7.14.2.0, time stamp: 0x5bbe9f91
Faulting module name: LIBEAY32.dll, version: 1.0.2.7, time stamp: 0x56d5fc8e
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000000e6543
Faulting process id: 0x9e0
Faulting application start time: 0x01d5af57f0b02b28
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Boinc\boinc.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\Boinc\LIBEAY32.dll
Report Id: be3de9d0-d9bb-4e68-8668-e5e33737dee4
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
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In BOINC Data directory, stdoutdae.txt, anything of note in there?
Same directory, in stdoutdae.txt, any mention there what happens?
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I included the stdoutae.txt lines of last attempt in last post. I note this:
10-Dec-2019 04:49:23 [---] cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
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How did you install BOINC? ---from the boinc site at Berkeley.--- With your user account ---many times---, or did you use "Run as administrator"---several times after regular (administrative user,me) failed--- on the installer? The latter is not advised, as this will cause all kinds of permission problems. An administrator account is needed for the installation of BOINC, but not the super user administrator. And did you check "Allow all users on this computer to control BOINC" in the installer? --- always---
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Message 94146 - Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 13:40:50 UTC - in response to Message 94144.  

Might be worth a try with a 32-bit BOINC while we look up 'Celeron(R) N4000 CPU'.
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