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Message 84664 - Posted: 4 Feb 2018, 22:54:49 UTC

Boinc 7.8.3
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Rosetta
Einstein

I keep getting "Not requesting tasks: don't need (not highest priority project)" for Rosetta and Einstein today.

I haven't had any projects running for a number of days.

2/4/2018 12:00:29 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.8.3 for windows_intelx86
2/4/2018 12:00:29 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2/4/2018 12:00:29 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8
2/4/2018 12:00:29 PM | | Data directory: D:\ProgramData\BOINC
2/4/2018 12:00:29 PM | | Running under account Bill
2/4/2018 12:00:42 PM | | No usable GPUs found
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | Host name: User-PC
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ [Family 15 Model 75 Stepping 2]
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | Memory: 2.94 GB physical, 5.87 GB virtual
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | Disk: 214.80 GB total, 44.63 GB free
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | Local time is UTC -5 hours
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | VirtualBox version: 5.0.10
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | Config: don't compute while Defraggler.exe is running
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | Config: don't compute while ekrn.exe is running
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | climateprediction.net | URL http://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID 1323606; resource share 80
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | Einstein@Home | URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 11383691; resource share 10
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | malariacontrol.net | URL http://www.malariacontrol.net/; Computer ID 806788; resource share 100
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | Rosetta@home | URL http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 1755215; resource share 100
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | Rosetta@home | General prefs: from Rosetta@home (last modified 21-Jan-2017 09:41:01)
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | Rosetta@home | Computer location: home
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | Rosetta@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | Reading preferences override file
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | Preferences:
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | max memory usage when active: 1503.71 MB
2/4/2018 12:00:44 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 2706.69 MB
2/4/2018 12:00:52 PM | | max disk usage: 3.78 GB
2/4/2018 12:00:52 PM | | don't compute while active
2/4/2018 12:00:52 PM | | don't use GPU while active
2/4/2018 12:00:52 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
2/4/2018 12:00:58 PM | | Suspending computation - computer is in use
2/4/2018 12:00:58 PM | | Suspending network activity - an exclusive app is running
2/4/2018 12:08:47 PM | Rosetta@home | update requested by user
2/4/2018 12:08:48 PM | malariacontrol.net | Fetching scheduler list
2/4/2018 12:08:54 PM | malariacontrol.net | [error] No scheduler URLs found in master file
2/4/2018 12:09:05 PM | Rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/4/2018 12:09:05 PM | Rosetta@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (not highest priority project)
2/4/2018 12:09:12 PM | Rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed
2/4/2018 12:09:32 PM | Rosetta@home | Resetting project
2/4/2018 12:09:44 PM | climateprediction.net | Resetting project
2/4/2018 12:10:44 PM | climateprediction.net | update requested by user
2/4/2018 12:10:51 PM | climateprediction.net | Master file download succeeded
2/4/2018 12:10:56 PM | climateprediction.net | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/4/2018 12:10:56 PM | climateprediction.net | Requesting new tasks for CPU
2/4/2018 12:11:00 PM | climateprediction.net | Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
2/4/2018 12:11:01 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2/4/2018 12:11:03 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2/4/2018 12:11:18 PM | Einstein@Home | update requested by user
2/4/2018 12:11:22 PM | Einstein@Home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/4/2018 12:11:22 PM | Einstein@Home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (not highest priority project)
2/4/2018 12:11:25 PM | Einstein@Home | Scheduler request completed
2/4/2018 4:50:05 PM | | Re-reading cc_config.xml
2/4/2018 4:50:06 PM | | Config: don't compute while Defraggler.exe is running
2/4/2018 4:50:06 PM | | Config: don't compute while ekrn.exe is running
2/4/2018 4:50:06 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2/4/2018 4:50:20 PM | Rosetta@home | General prefs: from Rosetta@home (last modified 21-Jan-2017 09:41:01)
2/4/2018 4:50:20 PM | Rosetta@home | Computer location: home
2/4/2018 4:50:20 PM | Rosetta@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
2/4/2018 4:50:20 PM | | Reading preferences override file
2/4/2018 4:50:20 PM | | Preferences:
2/4/2018 4:50:20 PM | | max memory usage when active: 1503.71 MB
2/4/2018 4:50:20 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 2706.69 MB
2/4/2018 4:50:20 PM | | max disk usage: 3.82 GB
2/4/2018 4:50:20 PM | | don't compute while active
2/4/2018 4:50:20 PM | | don't use GPU while active
2/4/2018 4:50:20 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
2/4/2018 4:55:26 PM | Rosetta@home | General prefs: from Rosetta@home (last modified 21-Jan-2017 09:41:01)
2/4/2018 4:55:26 PM | Rosetta@home | Computer location: home
2/4/2018 4:55:26 PM | Rosetta@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
2/4/2018 4:55:26 PM | | Reading preferences override file
2/4/2018 4:55:26 PM | | Preferences:
2/4/2018 4:55:26 PM | | max memory usage when active: 1503.71 MB
2/4/2018 4:55:26 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 2706.69 MB
2/4/2018 4:55:26 PM | | max disk usage: 3.82 GB
2/4/2018 4:55:26 PM | | don't compute while active
2/4/2018 4:55:26 PM | | don't use GPU while active
2/4/2018 4:55:26 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
2/4/2018 4:55:34 PM | Einstein@Home | update requested by user
2/4/2018 4:55:35 PM | Einstein@Home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/4/2018 4:55:35 PM | Einstein@Home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (not highest priority project)
2/4/2018 4:55:39 PM | Einstein@Home | Scheduler request completed
2/4/2018 4:56:00 PM | Rosetta@home | update requested by user
2/4/2018 4:56:06 PM | Rosetta@home | Master file download succeeded
2/4/2018 4:56:12 PM | Rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/4/2018 4:56:12 PM | Rosetta@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (not highest priority project)
2/4/2018 4:56:14 PM | Rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed
2/4/2018 5:08:13 PM | Rosetta@home | General prefs: from Rosetta@home (last modified 21-Jan-2017 09:41:01)
2/4/2018 5:08:13 PM | Rosetta@home | Computer location: home
2/4/2018 5:08:13 PM | Rosetta@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
2/4/2018 5:08:13 PM | | Reading preferences override file
2/4/2018 5:08:13 PM | | Preferences:
2/4/2018 5:08:13 PM | | max memory usage when active: 1503.71 MB
2/4/2018 5:08:13 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 2706.69 MB
2/4/2018 5:08:13 PM | | max disk usage: 3.82 GB
2/4/2018 5:08:13 PM | | don't compute while active
2/4/2018 5:08:13 PM | | don't use GPU while active
2/4/2018 5:08:13 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
2/4/2018 5:08:19 PM | | Resuming network activity
2/4/2018 5:08:54 PM | Rosetta@home | update requested by user
2/4/2018 5:08:56 PM | Rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/4/2018 5:08:56 PM | Rosetta@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (not highest priority project)
2/4/2018 5:08:57 PM | Rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed
2/4/2018 5:42:39 PM | Rosetta@home | update requested by user
2/4/2018 5:42:41 PM | Rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/4/2018 5:42:41 PM | Rosetta@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (not highest priority project)
2/4/2018 5:42:42 PM | Rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed
2/4/2018 5:49:07 PM | climateprediction.net | update requested by user
2/4/2018 5:49:10 PM | climateprediction.net | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/4/2018 5:49:10 PM | climateprediction.net | Requesting new tasks for CPU
2/4/2018 5:49:12 PM | climateprediction.net | Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
2/4/2018 5:49:13 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2/4/2018 5:49:16 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2/4/2018 5:49:27 PM | Einstein@Home | update requested by user
2/4/2018 5:49:28 PM | Einstein@Home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/4/2018 5:49:28 PM | Einstein@Home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (not highest priority project)
2/4/2018 5:49:32 PM | Einstein@Home | Scheduler request completed

Any ideas? Should I check anything?

I usually for a few years without any problems, so I have forgotten even rudimentary setup skills, e.g,, disk space, cpu, etc. They look fine to me.
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Message 84671 - Posted: 5 Feb 2018, 8:25:45 UTC - in response to Message 84664.  

Does it have any work in cache?
Can you run the rr_simulation flag for a while? (BOINC Manager, Advanced view, Options, Event log options, check rr_simulation, OK (or Save).
For 'a while' is one round if work is in cache. Please disable this option after one or two rounds, as it can take up quite a bit of the log.
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Message 84672 - Posted: 5 Feb 2018, 9:42:03 UTC

Every one of the 'not highest priority project' is from an 'update requested by user'. Try just letting the computer stand idle for 10 minutes - don't touch mouse or keyboard, don't run either of your exclusive apps - and see if it will ask CPDN (fails, offline), Malaria (dead project), and finally reach one of the live ones.
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Message 84742 - Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 23:31:58 UTC - in response to Message 84672.  

Why would a manual request not get tasks yet a short time later when the timer is up it gets work?

I've seen this happen too sometimes even when the project is the only one active (although I suspect BOINC doesn't differentiate here for NCI) or even the higher priority one.
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Message 84746 - Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 23:47:22 UTC

Doing a manual request on a single project may get 'not highest priority' because a different project has higher priority and is fetchable.

If you allow all projects to fetch at will, then higher priority projects will be tried first. If they fail, then lower priority projects will be tried while the higher priority projects are inaccessible (server requested backoff, or suchlike).
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Message 84747 - Posted: 11 Feb 2018, 3:44:14 UTC - in response to Message 84746.  

Removing Malaria Control would be a positive step as well as the project ended a number of years ago and will not be coming back.

It will reduce the calculations and scheduling that BOINC is trying to do for your system.

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Message 84789 - Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 19:42:01 UTC

I've had the 'not highest priority project' before when I had several projects set to receive work but were currently not sending out work or nothing for the app I had selected. It's the dumb way BM handles and balances the resource share between projects. NNW or suspending the idle projects allowed me to receive work on the projects that did have work available.
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Message 84815 - Posted: 17 Feb 2018, 3:01:59 UTC - in response to Message 84671.  

Does it have any work in cache?
Can you run the rr_simulation flag for a while? (BOINC Manager, Advanced view, Options, Event log options, check rr_simulation, OK (or Save).
For 'a while' is one round if work is in cache. Please disable this option after one or two rounds, as it can take up quite a bit of the log.


I ran rr_simulation along with Run Always and things started working, it requested three projects.

As soon as I went back to Run based on preferences, it went to Suspended while computer in use, as expected, but it stayed that way even after computer not in use for the 30 minutes I designated.

Is there some reason Boinc would not detect that the computer was not in use for 30 minutes?
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Message 84816 - Posted: 17 Feb 2018, 9:36:07 UTC - in response to Message 84815.  

Is there some reason Boinc would not detect that the computer was not in use for 30 minutes?
Detecting 'computer in use' is usually described as interaction with the mouse or keyboard, but I think it will actually detect activity on any HID (Human Interface Device). There have been reports that if a high-sensitivity device like a gaming controller is connected to the computer that can generate false positive signals which get detected as 'in use'.
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Message 84846 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 5:23:15 UTC - in response to Message 84816.  

Is there some reason Boinc would not detect that the computer was not in use for 30 minutes?
Detecting 'computer in use' is usually described as interaction with the mouse or keyboard, but I think it will actually detect activity on any HID (Human Interface Device). There have been reports that if a high-sensitivity device like a gaming controller is connected to the computer that can generate false positive signals which get detected as 'in use'.


No. That's what I can't figure out. I can be away from the computer for hours and it still doesn't start BOINC projects.

This is a home computer. Standard keyboard. Standard mouse. BOINC has run fine for several years.

If I click Run Always, it starts right up.
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Message 84848 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 7:36:23 UTC - in response to Message 84846.  
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Is boinctaskstray.exe running (in Windows Task Manager)? Despite its name, this file is necessary for correct idle detection.
Do you have differing power options under Windows? Where you don't allow (USB) Human Interface Devices to power down, or not allow them to wake the computer?

(Edit: Richard's right)
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Message 84855 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 8:37:01 UTC - in response to Message 84848.  

Er, boinctray.exe
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Message 84873 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 22:39:19 UTC - in response to Message 84848.  

Is boinctaskstray.exe running (in Windows Task Manager)? Despite its name, this file is necessary for correct idle detection.
Do you have differing power options under Windows? Where you don't allow (USB) Human Interface Devices to power down, or not allow them to wake the computer?



Yes, boinctray.exe is running.

No special power options running. I shut down manually every night.
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Message 84876 - Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 5:12:30 UTC

Are you using a wireless keyboard and/or mouse?
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Message 84889 - Posted: 23 Feb 2018, 16:10:30 UTC - in response to Message 84876.  

Are you using a wireless keyboard and/or mouse?


No, nothing wireless.
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Message 84899 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 22:34:26 UTC

Self-inflicted wound.

I put erkn.exe in the Exclusive Applications area.

I thought that would prevent Boinc from running when I was running a scan.

It did that...and more.

Being an antivirus program, it runs all the time, in background if not in an active scan.

That's why I got Suspending computation - computer is in use all day long.


I deleted ekrn.exe from Exclusive Applications.

Rosetta and Climate prediction are running just fine now when computer is idle.
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