At least those kids are alive.

A much more serious matter

Edited for grammar :-)

Are they in Council care

Naw, they're too scared of slipping through the cracks & end up being groomed.

Sigh, seems to ba a lot of it going around
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lancashire-41160213

First tRump came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Muslim.

Then tRump came for the Mexicans, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Mexican.

Then tRump came for the Dreamers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Dreamer.

Then tRump came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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But I was referring to a rather higher level of politics, namely Britain's Membership of the EU

Nice "higher" level

"some frankly to make political points
some of their opponents may as well "be tabling amendments for sunshine" and the task for government will be to work out "what is grandstanding" and where their critics have a valid point.

The task would be difficult in any political climate, but harder, when the prime minister can't be confident of cheery enthusiasm from her backbenches."

There's a lovely little "Easter Egg" in there that shows just what the "political elite" thinks of the electorate - see if you can spot it :-)

Oh dear, I seem to be turning into Chris S. I've just written this on a BBC iPlayer comment page:

I am in Paris on business, using my UK laptop which knows my details and will be attached to my UK home TV licence when that becomes a requirement. My hotel TV doesn't offer BBC Worid. I can't even listen to BBC Radio, because it's broadcasting sports and that's broken too. In the old days, the BBC used to speak to the world - not any longer, it seems.

Shall I sign his name before I post it?

PS - It's Wales away to Moldova they won't let me listen to. I think I'll just go to bed early.

While I'm bored and in the mood - and waiting for the traffic noise to die down so I can get some sleep - here's another one.

Tomorrow, I'm attending a meeting in a seminar room at the French Royal Observatory - well, strike the 'Royal' some 230 years ago, obviously, but you get my drift. Looking at my street plan, I see a long, linear, feature passing northwards from the observatory through Jardin du Luxembourg and the front door of the Louvre.

This afternoon I was walking downhill from the viewpoint at the Sacre Coeur (Montmartre - the observatory is visible and marked), when I passed a 'history of Paris' wall-plaque. On this spot (it said in rough translation) the prime meridian for all French maps was set in 1670, followed by an obelisk-like stone marker in 1675. That seems to be on the same alignment, too.

Can anyone remember when Greenwich was founded, without looking it up?

LOL. What I find extremely funny is that many throughout the West chastise those who are nationalistic & prefer them to be globalists.

So what do they go & do?

Introduce geoblocking :-)
Greenwich - at a guess, 1300's?

Postscript to the observatory story. The site today is in 'Boulevard Arago', a name unfamiliar to me. But looking up the meridian,

In the early 19th century, the Paris meridian was recalculated with greater precision by the astronomer François Arago, whose name now appears on the plaques or medallions tracing the route of the meridian through Paris.

So that explains the road name. And perhaps why there's an empty plinth further along the road, with a sign explaining that Arago's statue (along with many others) was destroyed by the Vichy government during the second world war. Dangerous to be an astronomer, even a long-dead one, in times of trouble.

Greenwich - at a guess, 1300's?

Nope. According to Wikipedia, it (the greenwich observatory, not any village of the same name) was founded on 22 June, 1675, by Charles II. The Greenwich Meridian wasn't established until 1851, largely at the request of the railways, who wanted a common time standard so their timetables would work. Fat lot of good that did.

How about these reasons for eliminating DACA:

http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2017/09/05/14-things-msm-wont-tell-daca/

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How about these reasons for eliminating DACA:

http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2017/09/05/14-things-msm-wont-tell-daca/

You need to go and look at those crime figures stated by Breitbart and compare them to the rest of the population. https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/dreamer-incarceration-rate

Then after that go and look at all the other claims in a similar manor.

Plus who is going to rebuild Houston, and possibly the Irma damage area in the SE. Even Trump companies have employed illegals on building projects, they've been prosecuted for it and found guilty.

And I hope you are prepared to go hungry as without illegals some crops will not be harvested or processed or cooked and served up in your favourite eatery. There's a X Carolina's news item out there from a couple of months ago.

edit] Since that, I went to 538 and found they are discussing the subject, I, obviously, haven't listened to it yet. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/politics-podcast-immigration-politics/

How about these reasons for eliminating DACA:

http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2017/09/05/14-things-msm-wont-tell-daca/

You need to go and look at those crime figures stated by Breitbart and compare them to the rest of the population. https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/dreamer-incarceration-rate

Then after that go and look at all the other claims in a similar manor.

Plus who is going to rebuild Houston, and possibly the Irma damage area in the SE. Even Trump companies have employed illegals on building projects, they've been prosecuted for it and found guilty.

And I hope you are prepared to go hungry as without illegals some crops will not be harvested or processed or cooked and served up in your favourite eatery. There's a X Carolina's news item out there from a couple of months ago.

edit] Since that, I went to 538 and found they are discussing the subject, I, obviously, haven't listened to it yet. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/politics-podcast-immigration-politics/

When you start with false assumptions as breitbart always does, you can come to any predetermined conclusion you wish. Those who don't have enough working brain cells to even think there is the need to check the assumptions will always be fooled by a confidence game. Unfortunately society does not see them as a danger to themselves or others. Perhaps it should.

@WK, I don't know why we waste the electrons on such people. They need to hate to feel self worth. Is that listed in DSM-5 somewhere?

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That's a 3p (p*ss poor post). If you're going to comment on something that serious, why haven't you shown both sides of the coin? You left out:

Lack of investment over the years & the selling off of hospitals to developers.

No you assume wrong. Weren't you told that assumptions are the mother of all f-ups? This has been debated several times in the past, suffering memory issues again Mr S?

Is it lack of investment or people expecting too much and not using system wisely?

Plus isn't it a system that is its own worst enemy. It was one of the factors in extended life expectancy. The older you get the more chance there is of parts wearing out, requiring more and more expensive treatments and old age care.
And at the same time treatments have improved. No need to look further than premature birth survival for evidence of that. And many of these treatments cost thousands/month because they treat things even 10 years ago were regarded as untreatable.

I'm not in favour of these advancements that give people an extra few months of life. In two cases, my ex father-in-law and young girl next door, all it really did was cause exhaustion for the close family that provided the care in those months.

How many other cases are there per year similar to Charlie Gard that we don't hear about?

As far as I can tell figures say about 10/year in England.
Looking further many doctors say that all these cases do to prolong the pain and suffering in the patient, is that acceptable?

edit] Looking further. The European Organization for Rare Diseases says there are between 5 and 7 thousand that are known about. Only 400 have treatments. Most are diagnosed in small children before the age of 5. To be defined in Europe as rare it has to affect less than 1 in 2000.
Diseases that are statistically rare, but not also life-threatening, chronically debilitating, or inadequately treated, are excluded from their definition.

WTH is the country coming to?

A new word for the English language - "Transphobic"