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Message 81064 - Posted: 11 Sep 2017, 14:26:11 UTC - in response to Message 81063.  

Give it a rest Boyo. There's a whole lot more to Britain than just London.
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Message 81071 - Posted: 11 Sep 2017, 16:23:29 UTC - in response to Message 81064.  

Give it a rest Boyo. There's a whole lot more to Britain than just London.

Maybe it should be Londexit.
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Message 81072 - Posted: 11 Sep 2017, 16:30:16 UTC

What many people forget is that while most of the UK is gradually rising London is sinking faster - the tilt axis is somewhere around a line drawn from The Wash to the Severn Estuary.
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Message 81188 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 20:17:17 UTC - in response to Message 81186.  

A simple glance at a map would confirm that.
Such a "simple" glance shows only 2 places as after that is the Atlantic ocean. Surely those 2 "little" places are not still worrying the government?
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Message 81230 - Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 13:36:46 UTC - in response to Message 81210.  

THAT is what they were doing in the irish Sea, no other reason.
You sure it is not training for use in surveillance of the non-privileged ensuring they don't get near the privileged?
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Message 81233 - Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 15:29:09 UTC

If this report is anything to go on, pretty sure the privileged in their pursuit of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, don't give a toss for animal welfare.

G4S refuses to disclose profits

Nathan Ward said he had spoken to senior management, police, MPs and ministers but no action had been taken.
Mr Ward said he had "no faith" in the whistle-blowing systems operated within G4S and told MPs that anyone speaking out faced being "marginalised within the organisation".

Mr Ward also accused the Home Office of allowing G4S to carry out its own inquiries into allegations against it, adding that there seemed to be "an awful lot of collusion" between them.
"Who is doing an independent investigation into this?" he asked.
"This is a humanitarian crisis in what is supposed to be a civilised country and it demands a response from government."
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Message 81429 - Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 4:22:16 UTC

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/351268-nyt-mueller-warned-manafort-to-expect-an-indictment
Prosecutors on special counsel Robert Mueller's team reportedly told former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort that they planned to indict him when they picked his lock and raided his Virginia home in July.

The warning, allegedly a shock-and-awe tactic, came as federal agents combed through Manafort's computer files, documents and any other potential pieces of evidence that could help them in their federal investigation, The New York Times reported Monday, citing two people close to the investigation.

The jarring comment is part of the approach Mueller and his team have embraced since May when the Justice Department named them to lead the high-profile investigation earlier, which aims to intimidate witnesses and possible targets of the probe, the newspaper reported.

The right to pick a lock and enter Manafort's home unannounced, even with a warrant in hand, means prosecutors had to convince a federal judge that Manafort would likely try to destroy evidence upon making themselves known.

So will the Grand Jury list an un-indicted co-conspirator?
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Message 81462 - Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 17:26:39 UTC - in response to Message 81429.  

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/351268-nyt-mueller-warned-manafort-to-expect-an-indictment
Prosecutors on special counsel Robert Mueller's team reportedly told former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort that they planned to indict him when they picked his lock and raided his Virginia home in July.

The warning, allegedly a shock-and-awe tactic, came as federal agents combed through Manafort's computer files, documents and any other potential pieces of evidence that could help them in their federal investigation, The New York Times reported Monday, citing two people close to the investigation.

The jarring comment is part of the approach Mueller and his team have embraced since May when the Justice Department named them to lead the high-profile investigation earlier, which aims to intimidate witnesses and possible targets of the probe, the newspaper reported.

The right to pick a lock and enter Manafort's home unannounced, even with a warrant in hand, means prosecutors had to convince a federal judge that Manafort would likely try to destroy evidence upon making themselves known.

So will the Grand Jury list an un-indicted co-conspirator?

I don't know if the following is accurate or not ..... ??????
But I read on the web somewhere (I can't remember where now) that it is a commond practise of US Prosecutors to use the threat of indictment to try to get a wittnes to "flip"
If Mueller's team can threaten criminal charges against Manafort, they could use that as leverage to convince him to cooperate ?????
The Daily 202: Mueller tightening the screws on Manafort washingtonpost.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/09/19/daily-202-mueller-tightening-the-screws-on-manafort/59c0525130fb045176650d36/?utm_term=.27a979af4f8a

https://www.google.ca/search?q=Prosecutors+on+special+counsel+Robert+Mueller's+team+are+threatening+Paul+Manafort+with+indictment+to+try+to+get+him+to+%22flip%22&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjr8OLt1bHWAhUO3WMKHRILBjQQvwUIIygA&biw=1280&bih=643

U.S. Antitrust Law and Enforcement: A Practice Introduction
https://books.google.ca/books?isbn=0195388992
Douglas F. Broder - 2010 - ‎Law
If the time comes for the witness to testify, the prosecutor and grand jurors are after.22 [2] Indictments, Pleas, and Trials ... Instead, they use the threat of increased charges and jail terms to “turn” or “flip” reluctant witness.
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Message 81463 - Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 17:49:04 UTC - in response to Message 81462.  

Byron, yes it is a common practice to over charge if they think the person has evidence they can use against another. Very common in drugs, where the bust the street level dealer and force him to inform on the distributor. They use this to try and get up to the head of the cartel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma
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Message 81467 - Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 18:08:55 UTC

https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-calls-for-world-action-against-north-korea-iran-venezuela-/4035239.html
He told the opening session of the U.N. General Assembly that the U.S. "will have no choice but to totally destroy" North Korea
And what does Kim have that prevents that from happening today as it did to Iraq? Kim's nukes. And how is this attempt to bully Kim going to work? We all know the only tool tRump has ever used is bully. Look at how many times he has run to court! Unfortunately there is no court he can get Kim in. Kim is a bully and he isn't going to be out bullied by what he sees as a weak fool. tRump has just cemented that Kim will have nukes forever.

Is tRump really that ignorant he can't find any other tool to apply to a problem other than bully? We know his daddy was KKK, so perhaps being a bully is all he has ever known in his life. So sad.
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Message 81470 - Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 18:23:20 UTC - in response to Message 81467.  

l tRump has ever used is bully.

Is tRump really that ignorant he can't find any other tool to apply to a problem other than bully? We know his daddy was KKK, so perhaps being a bully is all he has ever known in his life. So sad


Yea unfortunaly he is and he's a prize pri#k that should keep out of things he DON'T UNDERSTAND . DON'T MATTER if he's your president he is talking out of hid stinkhole and probably start WW3 fairly soon .

I ain't knocking the position Trump holds at the moment I'm just saying that he should shut his mouth and stop tweeting his B/S every five minutes on things like this he has got F/A experiance of e.g POLITICS .
Having a go at the person is completly different and if you can't understand that small fact there's NO hope for you !!!
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Message 81477 - Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 19:40:59 UTC
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I might have to watch Dr Strangelove again - in case the last opportunity to gets* becomes suddenly imminent...

It's lovely to see you Byron :)

edit: it needed a comma. It has one now.
another edit: I'm not sure it does after all so I've removed it.
*Third edit.

this is a pig's breakfast of a post for which you are all, very, very welcome
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Message 81489 - Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 23:15:23 UTC - in response to Message 81477.  

it's lovely to see you Byron :)

Hi anniet
it's nice to see you too :)
Best Wishes,
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Message 81495 - Posted: 20 Sep 2017, 12:57:18 UTC
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No one yet with this one? Ban social media trolls from voting, election watchdog suggests
Banning social media trolls from voting could help reduce the amount of abuse faced by politicians, the election watchdog has said.
The Electoral Commission says legislation around elections should be reviewed and new offences could be introduced.
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Message 81498 - Posted: 20 Sep 2017, 14:38:26 UTC - in response to Message 81495.  

Campaigning on a ballot of fear-mongering and division doesn't help. Nor does having editors in your back pocket helping with the dirty work. I'd like to see that cleaned up first or at least at the same time. Will it matter to a social media troll not being able to vote?
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Message 81499 - Posted: 20 Sep 2017, 14:42:05 UTC - in response to Message 81498.  

Will it matter to a social media troll not being able to vote?


I doubt it would make any difference to the bottom feeding scum , it won't stop them spewing their vile hate filled sh#te everywhere they can will it .
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Message 81504 - Posted: 20 Sep 2017, 20:21:05 UTC - in response to Message 81498.  

Will it matter to a social media troll not being able to vote?
I thought they were the only ones who did vote, the rest being so turned off by their rotting bile they just stayed away.
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