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Message 77887 - Posted: 14 May 2017, 23:46:56 UTC

SETI assumes that "intelligent" life communicates using the electromagnetic spectrum. SETI searches using radio telescopes to "listen" for narrow bandwidth radio transmissions. Do you really think that if humans are stuck in the electromagnetic medium (EM)... that every other life form in the universe is also stuck in EM medium?

Have the people at SETI ever considered that other transmission mediums might also be used other than EM?

Has Seth Shostak ever considered that EM might be an archaic communication medium. Maybe ET's communicate using other energy forms. I think your radio telescopes are like using smoke signals compared to ET technology.


Just my sincere and respectful opinion.
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Message 77890 - Posted: 15 May 2017, 3:41:15 UTC - in response to Message 77887.  

SETI assumes that "intelligent" life communicates using the electromagnetic spectrum. SETI searches using radio telescopes to "listen" for narrow bandwidth radio transmissions. Do you really think that if humans are stuck in the electromagnetic medium (EM)... that every other life form in the universe is also stuck in EM medium?

Have the people at SETI ever considered that other transmission mediums might also be used other than EM?

Has Seth Shostak ever considered that EM might be an archaic communication medium. Maybe ET's communicate using other energy forms. I think your radio telescopes are like using smoke signals compared to ET technology.


Just my sincere and respectful opinion.

Uh, they do and are: https://seti.berkeley.edu/ Try reading through all the other project data.
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Message 77891 - Posted: 15 May 2017, 5:10:48 UTC - in response to Message 77890.  

Uh... it's all data that has been captured by ... ahem... via EM. Nothing new there.
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Message 77892 - Posted: 15 May 2017, 5:57:03 UTC - in response to Message 77891.  

Uh... it's all data that has been captured by ... ahem... via EM. Nothing new there.

Just exactly what other energy transfer media is there?
There are only 4 forces we know of.
EM, Gravity, Strong, Weak.

Strong and weak operate on distance scales inside an atom.

Gravitational waves? We are just barely able to detect black holes that coalesce - more power that the total output of the sun over its lifetime, we can't pick up a 1000 watt gravitational wave beacon at 10,000 light years, nor can any ET.
However we might be able to pick up a 1000 watt radar at 10,000 light years.

If you speculate that Dark Energy is another force, okay, but we first have to detect it before we can build a telescope to look for intelligence modulating it.

The same detection problem exists for all the exotic streams of matter, being able to detect them and focus beams of them. We can't do it now, so we can't look until we can.
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Message 78073 - Posted: 20 May 2017, 22:27:02 UTC

Would you be thinking of other kinds of communication that currently fall into the realm of scifi at the moment? Something like subspace communications on Star Trek?
Probably the closest thing we would have with our current level of knowledge would be quantum entanglement. I don't believe there is a way to detect the communication between entangled particles at this point in time.

As other communication methods are understood I imagine they would also be utilized in searches.
I figure it doesn't hurt to look with the technology we currently have. Since you can't find something if you never look.
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Message 78767 - Posted: 7 Jun 2017, 16:37:27 UTC - in response to Message 78073.  

On that same note could a BOINC app be developed to derive or read info from the IBM Q5 quantum computer? (to help facilitate the development of it). https://www.research.ibm.com/ibm-q/learn/

Since IBM already has a BOINC project: WCG, in theory it would be fairly easy to set up (permissions and access wise).
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Message 79320 - Posted: 26 Jun 2017, 8:49:52 UTC

SETI@Home's DNS servers are down. These IP addresses provide basic connectivity:

208.68.240.118	setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu	# upload server Oct 2016
208.68.240.119	boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu		# download server Oct 2016
208.68.240.126	setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu	# scheduler Oct 2016
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