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Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
Well with some who hold a superiority complex, the best answer is to think like a truck driver: - We all may depart from different depots but all eventually arrive at the same destination :-) |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
It's a conspiracy I tell ya :-) We truckers put magnets on you :-) |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
Well dear chap, sometimes one has to lower oneself to the standard of those they're debating with, as evidenced already:Baghdad Broadcasting Company :That is rather childish, although it has to be said that "Auntie" is not so unbiased as it used to be, and is leaning somewhat to the left these days. I've even thought of a name for you Gary's Inveterate Tonsure Songsters |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 14 Posts: 719 |
from Chris'es link Neil Armstrong NOT first man on moon as astronaut beaten by RUSSIA - shock new claims Yea that can go with ALL the other theories bout the moon landing i think , to be honest the ONLY REAL conspiracy is why DID so many war criminals get away with it scott free ??? I know the answer already coz it suited the USA ( better not post what i think bout that coz carn't go upsetting the poor litte p.c flowers now can I ) |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 14 Posts: 719 |
Ain't exactly a conspiracy but involves NASA and bet this story will kick off a few new conspiracys / claims of hiding the truth Space snails discovered on Pluto – NASA New Horizons pics baffle experts Link to the story http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/842449/Pluto-space-snail-alien-NASA-pictures-New-Horizons-satellite Ain't botherd watching the vids there but would love some of the drugs these people must be taking ;-) edit I assume you are taking about the German rocket scientists after WWII that were given amnesty in the USA. Wern't just rocket scientists was it that got away with murder ! might go some way to explaining Mossad and the stuntnix virus but that's another kettle of fish , but ain't it good how everything inter relates one way or another ;-) |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
I might also comment that my avatar being of Seti II is somewhat relevant to Seti@home. But we should all thank you for yours, confirming your long held public opinions regarding politicians. Being open about it, makes it so much easier for MI5 to compile their list of known subversives and anti establishment types.Therein lies the biggest laugh of modern history. The security services employ too many "English Gentlemen" such as yourself with their bias & hatred that they end up creating useless lists & watch the wrong people as already evidenced. A classic case is the Cambridge 5 a clear example of a conspiracy of the worst kind CYA & in cya they besmirched the name & honour of a man who served his country with distinction. To stop you making wrong assumptions he was not one of the 5, so put your research abilities to good use :-) |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 14 Posts: 719 |
To stop you making wrong assumptions he was not one of the 5, so put your research abilities to good use :-) Give us a clue you got me braincell working now |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
To stop you making wrong assumptions he was not one of the 5, so put your research abilities to good use :-) Winston Spencer Churchill "Set Europe Aflame" is your starter for 10 :-) |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 14 Posts: 719 |
Confucius he say "When on back foot, try smoke screen to obscure your inadequacy". He said a lot of things did Confucius didn't he ;-) I'll go with who Chris said Turing , but then again there was Tommy Flowers who got royaly shafted for his work on tunny |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
Mark, No, you are the one confusing issues, Turing was Bletchley Park & nothing at all to do with setting Europe ablaze. What's the matter boyo? Your memory & the wiki letting you down? Try again, you might get it right... ...for once. |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 14 Posts: 719 |
Leave wiki alone me , what about Authur " Bomer " Harris then he was in charge of that wern't he ?? Tell ya what Mark, buy you a pint down the pub, more fun than around here :-)) Na that's alright Chris your " local " is a bit far away from me ain't it but got 3 crates here so I'm sorted + some herbal stuff so everything is sorted for me |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
Tell ya what Mark, buy you a pint down the pub, more fun than around here :-)) Now who's on the back foot? What's the matter boyo? Not too hot on your own country's history? Turing had nothing to do with the Cambridge 5 but the man I referred to, at one time, was suspected of being the fifth man. Even his star cryptographer was also suspected as he was Jewish. |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 14 Posts: 719 |
Was it this bloke then Wilfred Mann , just googled cambridge 5 suspected 5th person https://www.nist.gov/nist-museum/fifth-man-cambridge-spy-ring-and-wilfred-mann |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
No, research SOE. |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 14 Posts: 719 |
Only one i can come across seams to fit your " profile " Guy Maynard Liddell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Liddell I've heard of the " Cambridge 5 " commie scum but never heard of him before but ain't relly looked into that sorta thing . |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
The life & times of an "Upstanding English Gentleman" "Blunt was greatly distressed by Burgess's flight and, on 28 May 1951, confided in his friend Goronwy Rees, a fellow of All Souls College, Oxford, who had briefly supplied the NKVD with political information in 1938–39. Rees suggested that Burgess had gone to the Soviet Union because of his violent anti-Americanism and belief that America would involve Britain in a Third World War, and that he was a Soviet agent. Blunt suggested that this was not sufficient reason to denounce Burgess to MI5. He pointed out that "Burgess was one of our oldest friends and to denounce him would not be the act of a friend." Blunt quoted E. M. Forster's belief that country was less important than friendship. He argued that "Burgess had told me he was a spy in 1936 and I had not told anyone." Blunt was made a Knight Commander of the Royal Victorian Order in 1956 by Queen Elizabeth II." So much for MI5 & their "subversive" lists :-) Who would have of thought that such an "upstanding English gentleman" could get that close to the Queen & continue to betray all that she stood for. Well what more can one expect from the biggest conspiracy of all... ...the "Old Boy's Network" |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
Only one i can come across seams to fit your " profile " Guy Maynard Liddell No. It was Colin McVean Gubbins. Can't recall whether it was C4 or ITV that did the series of documentaries, but it was well after his death in 76. They raised suspicion that the 5th man was possibly Gubbins & they even suggested that Leo Marks could have been involved. That was a blatant insult to both men. As for the OP suggesting Turing, can understand as to why as it was suspected that he leaked info on Ultra to the country's enemies. Unfortunately, it wasn't until years later that the suspicions were in fact correct. Unfortunately, they had the wrong man - It was Blunt. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
Some more enlightening history of that period :-) One of the main causes that led to Gubbins & Marks being suspected was the "Englandspiel" The Dutch Resistance during WWII was supplying the Allies with some excellent intelligence. Unfortunately, due to the severe infiltration of the Dutch Section of SOE, the SIS ignored that intelligence when it should have been listened to & acted on. As it wasn't, the debacle of Operation Market Garden occurred [at least where Arnhem was concerned). Oh & to further shoot down any "superiority complex" was a statement by one of the Cambridge 5: "I got away with it because I was Upper Class". Upon release of documents in 1998 by the Public Records Office which had been suppressed until that time, a sorry state of affairs emerged: - "Details of Britain's worst intelligence disaster of the Second World War have finally been released, revealing how Special Operations Executive (SOE) networks in Holland were penetrated by the Germans, resulting in the capture of more 50 agents. Most were executed. Documents released by the Public Record Office in Kew, and suppressed until now, also show that SOE's rivals in MI6 under the legendary "C", Sir Stewart Menzies, tried to use the crisis to absorb the Special Operations Executive. Only five years ago a dispute erupted after it was discovered that documents on the affair had been "removed and destroyed" by Downing Street officials. Whitehall was accused of a cover-up of one of the most shameful incidents of undercover wartime operations. David Stafford, author of Churchill and Secret Service, published last year, said yesterday: "This is an important release on a terrible tragedy that nearly killed SOE. It encouraged all those in Whitehall who wanted to take over SOE and they came close. It was only Churchill's intervention and commitment to SOE that saved it." " So much for politicians & the Establishment. Edit: Have to laugh at this sad fact: - An enemy officer even sent a message that was also ignored. "For Messrs Blunt, Bingham and Successors Ltd… you are trying to make business in Netherlands without our assistance. We think this rather unfair in view of our long and successful co-operation as your sole agent. But never mind whenever you will come to pay a visit to the Continent you may be assured that you will be received with the same care and result as all those who you sent us before. So long.” Hans Giskes, 1st April 1944 " Edit 2: Another "laughable" fact. After the war, the Dutch demanded an inquiry only to be told that the documents were destroyed in a fire in 1946. It would have been much more plausible & sensible to state "Sorry those documents alongside many others were destroyed in a bombing raid". |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 14 Posts: 719 |
Just goes to show the British ain't perfect , but then i never 4t we were |
Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2099 |
Just goes to show the British ain't perfect , but then i never 4t we wereNeither have I. However with some "perfect & superior" beings, they don't like their dirty linen washed in public. BTW, the biggest bit of dirty linen occurred 70 years ago this week: The day the Empire died - 15th August 1947 |
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