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Message 80308 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 18:33:40 UTC
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Just came across this story and is sorta related to conspiracys , as i read it i couldn't get " Dewling Banjos " out of my head , but as the saying goes only in America ;-)
Solar eclipse: Panic in Salem - NASA tweets ‘end of world Eclipse’ starts in witch mecca
THE US National Guard is on standby in Salem in case of emergencies during a rare total solar eclipse that will plunge much of the US into darkness on Monday.

NASA today tweeted that the first US city to witness the unusual event, which has been branded by hardline evangelical Christians as a sign of the end of the world, would be the east-coast US city in Essex County, Massachusetts, which is synonymous with witchcraft.

link to full story http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/843042/Eclipse-2017-total-solar-eclipse-warning-salem-witchcraft-NASA-End-of-World
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Message 80309 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 18:47:04 UTC - in response to Message 80296.  

The British Empire was very much inclined towards dictatorship authorities. The Commonwealth has the focus towards the complete harmony and the establishment of democracy. So in effect the Empire died.

The general population does not run the country.

The best comment made regarding the establishment came from the NKVD. They feared Blunt was a double agent due to the volume of valuable intelligence he provided. When they found out he was not a double, they remarked "he's an ideological sh*t".

Even today, the establishment is still full of them. A perfect example is Nicholas Paget-Brown.
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Message 80311 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 19:33:21 UTC - in response to Message 80309.  
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The British Empire was very much inclined towards dictatorship authorities. The Commonwealth has the focus towards the complete harmony and the establishment of democracy. So in effect the Empire died.


Bit more political than conspiracy ain't it ??? Before my time at least and I'm 43

Even today, the establishment is still full of them. A perfect example is Nicholas Paget-Brown.


Yea but nowadys " the establishment " has morphed into the P.C H & S equal opotunities lot , dunno what's worser but got a good idea ;-)
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Message 80314 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 20:14:32 UTC - in response to Message 80311.  

There's been more than enough political conspiracies over the past 30 years :-)

Even had 2 near enough at the same time, Corbyn & May.
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Message 80321 - Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 7:57:53 UTC

When the politics is over with here let me know !!
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Message 80323 - Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 8:04:58 UTC - in response to Message 80319.  

As has been posted on Seti Main many times by Moderators, posts made on publicly accessible websites open to the whole world, necessarily have consequences. A good reason to reflect upon what you wish to say before hitting the post button.
In that case, shouldn't you practice what you preach? On the back foot again I see. How many times is it now that you've conspired to knock down those who do not agree with you?

As a "loud & proud" Englishman, are you denying the fact that it was such Englishmen that betrayed their country? Wasn't it another "loud & proud" Englishman who served in the Security Services & therefore duty bound by the Official Secrets Act, slipped off to Australia to publish a book about his time in service?

Ah, tis grand to be a "loud & proud" Englishman :-)
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Message 80324 - Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 8:10:57 UTC - in response to Message 80321.  

When the politics is over with here let me know !!
When one conspires to betray one's country, that is conspiracy. When one conspires to depose one's leader, that Is conspiracy. :-)
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Message 80326 - Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 9:00:47 UTC - in response to Message 80325.  

When the politics is over with here let me know !!
Will do mate! Unfortunately It might be sooner than you think, because when the authorities get around to the bottom end of their "to do" list, this place could well be considered as a candidate for shutting down.
That will give the Mods & Admins a well deserved respite from your tantrums :-)
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Message 80332 - Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 13:19:53 UTC

It's good that that's posted in this thread about conspiracy theories because there's no truth in it. Unless with "this place" this very thread is meant...
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Message 80335 - Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 16:23:33 UTC

For all you pyramid lovers just found something a bit weird
The Speed of light is 299.792,458 m/s
that's prity fast ;-)

But the coordniates of the great pryramid of Giza is 29.9792458'n

Coincidence ????????????
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Message 80337 - Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 17:20:09 UTC - in response to Message 80335.  

Coordinates of the pyramid - expressed as degrees north of the equator, using 360 degrees to a full circle. OK, the Babylonians had that around 2,400 BC - we can use those units. But that number of decimal places implies an accuracy of measurement of about half an inch at both ends. Good going.

Speed of light - expressed in metres per second. Seconds are based on the length of the day, divided by 24*60*60. The Babylonians didn't start using base-60 for time until about 300 - 100 BC, so that's a bit anachronistic. (both references so far from https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/340467/why-is-a-full-circle-360-degrees)

Metres - weren't defined until after the French Revolution, so they were unlikely to have been predicted as a unit of measurement at the time the pyramid was built. But they were defined in terms of the distance from the equator to the pole, so somebody else might have had the same idea earlier. (reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_metre)

But the same number of decimal places implies the same accuracy of measurement: you're right, the Egyptians must have had some help.
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Message 80340 - Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 17:29:18 UTC

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-the-great-pyramid-of-giza-and-the-speed-of-light.t2154/
According to GeoHack the geographic coordinates to the pyramid is 29.979175, 31.134358 (not the same latitude value.)
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Message 80342 - Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 17:44:56 UTC - in response to Message 80340.  

All depends on what youe scorce was , think i 1st sw it somewhere ages ago can't remember what site it was now , it's Saturday evening here and I'm " relaxing " :-)
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Message 80347 - Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 3:26:42 UTC - in response to Message 80340.  

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-the-great-pyramid-of-giza-and-the-speed-of-light.t2154/
According to GeoHack the geographic coordinates to the pyramid is 29.979175, 31.134358 (not the same latitude value.)

In the 4500 years since they were build, how much plate tectonic drift has there been? How much has the earth's spin axis moved?
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Message 80349 - Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 7:53:00 UTC - in response to Message 80348.  

Isn't is nice to get back to myths and conspiracy matters rather than childish playground jibes from some quarters?
You went so well and had to end with a flame bait. Sad.
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Message 80350 - Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 8:16:03 UTC - in response to Message 80348.  

It is conjecture whether or not the position of the Giza Pyramids of Menkaure, Khafre and the Great Pyramid of Khufu, are related in any way to the speed of light, but it is known that the ancient Egyptians worshipped Orion and their god Osiris. And as such the three Giza ones are laid out uncannily accurately to the three stars in the belt of the Constellation of Orion the hunter.


Ain't the 3 main pyramids sposed to be in alignment with the 3 stars in Orion's belt and certain days of the year the stars shine straight thro some of the holes in the pyramid right to the main / burial chamber ??

Know the episode's on you tube and nothing better to do today so i'll find it , watching bout a certain forest that used to be round my way till the big storm of 87 and certain things that " allegedly happend , but i know something did ;-)
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Message 80352 - Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 8:43:31 UTC - in response to Message 80347.  

In the 4500 years since they were build, how much plate tectonic drift has there been? How much has the earth's spin axis moved?
http://robertbauval.co.uk/articles/articles/platetectonicsandgp.html gives you all the answers on those.

Terrestrial Pole offset: It is estimated that the pole offset from the Giza geographical co-ordinates changes at about 0.31 arc minutes per century; thus over 4500 years the offset is in the order of 13.1 arc seconds, a value far too small to be considered.

Calculation show that over the last 4500 years the Giza Plateau has move northwards between 22.5 to 45 meters and has rotated some 58.32” (arc seconds) from east-to-west, although this rotation may be much lower depending on the tectonics plate model used. In any case, the results show that the azimuth of the Giza pyramids should be adjusted by 58.32 arc minutes eastwards for the epoch 2500 BC.
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Message 80357 - Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 10:53:40 UTC - in response to Message 80356.  

That's incidents actuly Chris more than just one thing happend on more than one night

Watching Von Danakin and the pyramids on you tube at the mo ( coz tv is crap as per usual) would post a link but it's easy enough just to type into the you tube search bar in't it :-)
Another good story/myth about pyramids is that dull razor blades put inside a pyramid structure, 1/3 up from the base, location of the Kings chamber, will sharpen. Even patents were applied for! Some say it is to do with crystal regeneration in polarised light or some such. Others say this is confirmed by dead animals being found in pyramids e.g. cats that have wandered in and died and become preserved and mummified. Most say it cannot be proven.


In this program they built a scale model pyramid using the dimentions of the Gt Giza Pyramid and a piece of meat stayed " fresher " for longer than another piece of meat alongside it

Personaly i think there's some truth to some of the theorys but there are a lot of em !!!
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Message 80358 - Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 11:44:08 UTC - in response to Message 80352.  

Terrestrial Pole offset: It is estimated that the pole offset from the Giza geographical co-ordinates changes at about 0.31 arc minutes per century; thus over 4500 years the offset is in the order of 13.1 arc seconds, a value far too small to be considered.
One arc degree is about 70 miles, so one arc second is about 30 metres: 13.1 arc seconds is over 400 metres, which is significant when you're measuring to half an inch.
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Message 80363 - Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 15:13:39 UTC - in response to Message 80349.  

Isn't is nice to get back to myths and conspiracy matters rather than childish playground jibes from some quarters?
You went so well and had to end with a flame bait. Sad.
Thought you knew? That's his signature tune. Ruined many an excellent post with his childish attitude :-(
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