We oldies fight back!

Message boards : The Lounge : We oldies fight back!
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

1 · 2 · Next

AuthorMessage
Profile Chris S
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 13 Jun 10
Posts: 3088
United Kingdom
Message 75921 - Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 17:31:51 UTC

You can stick your i5's, i6's, i7's where the sun doesn't shine!

I love my Nokiia 6020 and just look at this!!

3310

You're all a load of street cred posers :-))
ID: 75921 · Report as offensive
anniet
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Jul 14
Posts: 484
Zambia
Message 75951 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 20:32:18 UTC - in response to Message 75921.  

You can stick your i5's, i6's, i7's where the sun doesn't shine!

Actually... I'm not sure you can ...

I love my Nokiia 6020 and just look at this!!

3310

That does look a much better fit doesn't it? ;)
ID: 75951 · Report as offensive
Les Bayliss

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 05
Posts: 1039
Australia
Message 75954 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 20:50:43 UTC

where the sun doesn't shine

That would be the tiny village deep down in a valley high up in the Himalayas.
(Misquoting a sentence or two from one of the Disk World stories.)
ID: 75954 · Report as offensive
Profile Chris S
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 13 Jun 10
Posts: 3088
United Kingdom
Message 75961 - Posted: 16 Feb 2017, 7:18:58 UTC - in response to Message 75951.  

Actually... I'm not sure you can ...


Well the sun doesn't shine inside one of these :-)))

ID: 75961 · Report as offensive
Bernie Vine
Volunteer moderator
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 10 Dec 12
Posts: 216
Message 75962 - Posted: 16 Feb 2017, 8:39:43 UTC

Of course you do realise that this will become the new "must have phone".

All these so called "street cred posers" will just "have" to have one.

"Old" will become the new "cool"

Therefore defeating the object.

It's all just a way to make more money.
ID: 75962 · Report as offensive
Profile Chris S
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 13 Jun 10
Posts: 3088
United Kingdom
Message 75969 - Posted: 16 Feb 2017, 15:12:11 UTC - in response to Message 75962.  
Last modified: 16 Feb 2017, 15:14:14 UTC

Well exactly Bernie, you've hit the nail on the head. Nokia aren't daft, they make good solid phones that last the test of time. They also know that the younger generation have to be seen to be trendy, it's ingrained into them, it's the street innit man? High five bro! Social acceptance by their peers is everything, and Nokia are cashing in on that.

Us that aren't one of these




Will simply shake our heads and carry on being sensible. You have described the old becoming the new cool. Us lot were aways cool, we survived the 60's, something this lot would freak out over, and we didn't have smartphones to find out where the next party was, we used one of these.

Or your mates would call round for you on the way. I can't recall that we missed out on much :-)
ID: 75969 · Report as offensive
Mark Stevenson

Send message
Joined: 9 Dec 14
Posts: 695
United Kingdom
Message 75973 - Posted: 16 Feb 2017, 18:13:07 UTC - in response to Message 75969.  

Nokia aren't daft, they make good solid phones that last the test of time


Shame Nokia was taken over by Microsoft a couple if years ago , i always has their phones when it came to upgrade time , now i've got a samsung a3 , it's a "smartphone" but ain't nothing like the cost of a iphone or Galaxy etc + dunno how much mine would cost got it free when i renewed me contract .
ID: 75973 · Report as offensive
Bernie Vine
Volunteer moderator
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 10 Dec 12
Posts: 216
Message 75975 - Posted: 16 Feb 2017, 18:27:21 UTC

Well at 65 I am still using my very old iPhone 4s and and even older iPad 2, however as soon as finances permit I will upgrade both to much later and better models.

Never use a landline anymore, just need it for the router and Wi-Fi, now Three have the app even when I have no signal I can get calls and texts over Wi-Fi. (like here at my dads)

Most everyone I know has a smart phone and none of them are under 40 (most are closer to my age)

I use mine as a shopping list, bank account checker, car park payment, diary, reminder for lots of things I have to do daily, calculator, I always read emails first on the phone either in or out, check the weather forecast, check my dads lottery tickets, use the shipping app to see what vessels are due in the Solent and an alarm clock.

And if there is enough battery left I might even make a phone call or two :-)

I like to move with the times as we all know what happened to the dinosaurs
ID: 75975 · Report as offensive
Les Bayliss

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 05
Posts: 1039
Australia
Message 75976 - Posted: 16 Feb 2017, 20:01:13 UTC

I'm past 74, and my phone is firmly attached to a wall socket, and then copper cables to the exchange.
The phone is smart though - I replaced the original rotary dial one, with one that is combined with an answering machine.
Any one who doesn't want to leave a name and number just hangs up after they get the generic recorded message. So no pests, day and night.

we all know what happened to the dinosaurs
I've noticed that there's a lot less around these days.
ID: 75976 · Report as offensive
Sirius B
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Jun 09
Posts: 1452
Ireland
Message 75986 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 9:08:50 UTC

"Smart" phones have an advantage over "dumb" phones.

At 00:23 Tues morning, the net dropped & assumed it was maintenance. At 07:19 use smartphone to connect desktop to the Net. No info on ISP website. Called support who said no problems on the network so checked out my router & "found" a problem, so they booked an engineer visit for 24th - not happy with that :-(

Just before I departed for Addenbrookes, received a text message stating that visit was cancelled. A problem was found in the network in my area & would be resolved by 16:00.

Received another text at 14:48 stating problem resolved.

The 3310 is a dinosaur in those situations, so "street cred" is good :-)
ID: 75986 · Report as offensive
Profile Chris S
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 13 Jun 10
Posts: 3088
United Kingdom
Message 75987 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 9:37:04 UTC

The trouble with putting all your eggs in one basket like Bernie does, is that if you lose that phone after becoming reliant on it you are stuffed unless you have it backed up somewhere and have alternative sources of information whilst you get a replacement and load it all up again. All smartphones are is a modern electronic replacement for the Filofax.

A colleague of mine left his Filo on a train once and was totally bereft, all his business contacts and appointments, birthdays, his whole life in fact, was in that thing. It was a serious complication. He learnt after that to use a calendar and a diary as well when he got the new one.

Personally I can see no need to move with the times just because one can. What will an i6 or i7 do that the i4s can't. OK probably better screen, faster, more memory, better camera, but the basic functionality is the same. But to be fair, people are different and have different lifestyles, I simply don't need to have any more than I have got, and I am certainly not wasting my pension on some trendy must have just to show off how "with it" I am.

The exception I will make is TV's. the difference between an SD set and an HD set is quite distinct, and the first time I saw a 4K set it blew my socks off. One of my family has just bought a new 55" curved sreen 4K model, with a top quality soundbar and bluetooth woofer. When they turn that one up its just like a home cinema, very impressive.

But back to phones, We have a twin handset cordless phone with answering m/c in the base unit. The base sits in the hall, the other handset is in the lounge. We could have got a triple handset unit and had one in the bedroom as well. but if there is a power cut the phone won't work. So in the bedroom we have a standard corded phone. handy for late calls, and works off the 50V from the exchange.

The latest phones are cordless as well, but the handsets are dual function in that if one is out of range of the house signal, the handset switches to being a mobile phone, and your call is automatically diverted to it in that way.

But the main problem is that the manufacturers are streets ahead of the suppliers. The UK is a small country, yet there are loads of dead signal area all over the place. Most major town centres have Wifi hot spots now, but out in rural areas it is a different matter. The same for TV, the London news studios broadcast in HD but the Regional ones only have SD studio equipment. A pain to swop from Ch101 to 1 and back again. There are only currently 13 HD freeview channels, yet HD TV's have been on sale for many years, and 8K sets are coming in later this year. Yet there aren't any broadcasts in 4K yet and none planned either. Tried buying a 4K DVD yet?

I have a Samsung HD Smart TV but I don't use any of the smart functions. If I wanted I can use voice control to change channels or the volume, handy for a disabled person but not for me. And no, they don't eavesdrop on your private conversations!!! That was just the mischievous press. I bought it for the picture quality and to an extent to future proof my viewing.

I'm 72 Les, I will use modern technology if I can see a need for it, otherwise I won't. The dinosaurs didn't die out because of not keeping pace with the times, they were made extinct with 50% of all species, by the Cretaceous-Tertiary event 65 million years ago, believed to be an asteroid in the Yuacatan peninsular area. This disrupted their food chains.
ID: 75987 · Report as offensive
Sirius B
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Jun 09
Posts: 1452
Ireland
Message 75988 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 9:56:29 UTC - in response to Message 75987.  

That's all good well but to attack others because you're not technology minded...

...like Mark I got my "smart" phone on a free upgrade. Got offered the iPhone 4S. When walking, cycling, driving or on a train, it's on silent. The 3310 Is not. Any call coming in on that is either urgent or an emergency & answered when safe to do so or call returned asap.

As for street cred, aren't you doing that by broadcasting what you have?
ID: 75988 · Report as offensive
Mark Stevenson

Send message
Joined: 9 Dec 14
Posts: 695
United Kingdom
Message 75990 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 10:50:16 UTC - in response to Message 75988.  

As for street cred, aren't you doing that by broadcasting what you have?


yea they are saying come mug me , if your stupid enough to "broardcast" the fact you diserve to get mugged
ID: 75990 · Report as offensive
Profile Chris S
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 13 Jun 10
Posts: 3088
United Kingdom
Message 75991 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 10:56:18 UTC
Last modified: 17 Feb 2017, 11:11:33 UTC

I replaced the original rotary dial one, with one that is combined with an answering machine.
Any one who doesn't want to leave a name and number just hangs up after they get the generic recorded message. So no pests, day and night.
@Les - One of my favourite house phones was the old 1980's BT push button Trim phone (766/786 models) it had such classic modernistic lines. In the UK BT has Call Minder, Call Protect, and Call Blocker, to safeguard against nuisance calls. We have Caller Display which shows the incoming number. All our family and friends are programmed in so we know who is calling before we answer.

What we do get is calls saying "International" and we know full well that will be from an Eastern Europe or Far East call bureau so we ignore it. We of course do have family and friends in Canada and America but we liaise by email first to pick a suitable time to talk because of the time zone differences. Then we know it is them.

Of course it is annoying to have the phone ring at 9pm at night when you are watching a TV program, but it always could be a family emergency, but it only takes a few seconds to check the handset and make a decision.
Member of the Guild of Professional Riff Raff
After Dinner speaking by arrangement
Part time rascal, CDM + Bar

ID: 75991 · Report as offensive
robsmith
Help desk expert

Send message
Joined: 25 May 09
Posts: 281
United Kingdom
Message 75992 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 11:29:35 UTC

This year's contract renewal reduced my bill, got me a "better" phone, and included yet another tablet (not having the tablet would have cost me a tenner a month). The new phone does have better battery life, the new tablet has never been turned on.
I can't find the charger for any of my collection of old Nokia, but when tried one had just enough juice in it to start ever-so briefly!
ID: 75992 · Report as offensive
Profile Chris S
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 13 Jun 10
Posts: 3088
United Kingdom
Message 75993 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 12:13:04 UTC - in response to Message 75992.  
Last modified: 17 Feb 2017, 12:13:36 UTC

(not having the tablet would have cost me a tenner a month)
That sounds odd or am I reading it the wrong way?

I can't find the charger for any of my collection of old Nokia,
I have some spare, tell me the voltage and Ma and I'll send you one.
ID: 75993 · Report as offensive
Profile Chris S
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 13 Jun 10
Posts: 3088
United Kingdom
Message 75994 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 12:54:30 UTC - in response to Message 75990.  
Last modified: 17 Feb 2017, 13:01:39 UTC

yea they are saying come mug me , if your stupid enough to "broardcast" the fact you diserve to get mugged

I agree with Mark, you see these youngsters wandering up and down the streets with top of the range £500 Smartphones, and they are just prime targets to get mugged and the phone stolen. But it doesn't seem to occur to them does it. "Gotta be seen owt an abaht wiv the gear, innit?".
ID: 75994 · Report as offensive
Mark Stevenson

Send message
Joined: 9 Dec 14
Posts: 695
United Kingdom
Message 75995 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 13:21:32 UTC - in response to Message 75994.  
Last modified: 17 Feb 2017, 13:27:54 UTC

not having the tablet would have cost me a tenner a month


That sounds odd or am I reading it the wrong way?


I'm with Vodafone and you can now get a tablet "added" to your phone account same as Vodafone did offer "netbooks" a few years ago now .
They basicly charge you between £10 -£15 per month but usualy only "allow" 1 /2 Gb per month if you go over they charge you sh#teloads for extra GB's . End of the day the Netbook / Tablet will be yours but garentee that it's cheeper to save up and buy one than taking a mobile company up on their "offer" .

I can't find the charger for any of my collection of old Nokia


Got loads of Nokia chargers if you need one Rob .

But it doesn't seem to occur to them does it. "Gotta be seen owt an abaht wiv the gear, innit?".


I ain't exactly "old" 43 now but teenagers etc don't seam to realise how much things cost , like how society is nowadays ," if it's broke ,sod fixing it coz probably cheeper just to replace it + most contract mobiles "offer" replacement schemes for a "small" monthly charge + i doubt the big mobile providers Vodafone / Orange , O2 etc pay the price for the phones that they sell for on the high street , ( probably pay cost +5% or something like that so they can make their money )
ID: 75995 · Report as offensive
Bernie Vine
Volunteer moderator
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 10 Dec 12
Posts: 216
Message 75996 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 13:36:58 UTC
Last modified: 17 Feb 2017, 13:38:04 UTC

The trouble with putting all your eggs in one basket like Bernie does, is that if you lose that phone after becoming reliant on it you are stuffed unless you have it backed up somewhere and have alternative sources of information whilst you get a replacement and load it all up again. All smartphones are is a modern electronic replacement for the Filofax.


Well of course I have a backup, as should everyone these days not only of all my contacts but of every document and picture I have, both here and on my server at home.

With an iPhone you can back up to the cloud and/or your computer. Once you have a replacement phone you do not have to "load it all up again" just tell iTunes this is your phone and it does it all for you.

As a friend of mine did after her's was stolen, I got her a replacement and she just logged on to the cloud and her new phone was updated with all the information from the old one.

You can also sync your contacts to your computer, without using iTunes, so no eggs in baskets.

Losing a phone is not the drama you seem to think it is.
ID: 75996 · Report as offensive
Profile Chris S
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 13 Jun 10
Posts: 3088
United Kingdom
Message 75997 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 15:26:42 UTC

@Mark -

but teenagers etc don't seam to realise how much things cost , like how society is nowadays
That of course is a symptom of over indulgent parents that just buy their kids stuff to shut them up, rather than being proper hands on parents. A 21C malaise.

if it's broke ,sod fixing it coz probably cheeper just to replace it
That again is the symptom of the modern throwaway society, where cheap Far East imports undercut Western manufacturers.

@Bernie - One would expect somebody at your technological level to have backups, we are talking about the 75% out there that are not, they are just dumb end users. And to be fair how many people have a home server, and are capable of setting one up and operating it?

I will not use the iCloud because I do not wish unknown 3rd party's to have access to my personal data. I have a USB external hard disk that I use to back up all my personal stuff.

Losing a phone is not the drama you seem to think it is.
Not to people like you no, but it likely is to many others.

because you're not technology minded...
@everyone

In my main career I retired as a member of the THQ Desktop Specification team. Previous to that I was a joint Network Admin for a 1000 user building in central London. I was a Novell CNA. After retirement I took further qualifications and became a Microsoft Specialist in Word, and obtained a College Diploma in Teaching IT. I then spent 8 years as a College lecturer in IT. I am a Professional Member of the British Computer Society with the letters MBCS. I also visit disabled people and help them with their computer problems as part of the "IT Can help" initiative.
ID: 75997 · Report as offensive
1 · 2 · Next

Message boards : The Lounge : We oldies fight back!

Copyright © 2018 University of California. Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation.