China is a dictatorship, they do as they are told. Europe has too many tin pot little countries. Stick with GMT it's the onlty time that makes sense.

But GMT wobbles all over why it was thrown out in favor of UTC.

How can UTC be good, it's an average taken after the event. And anyone knows if you have more than one timepiece you do not know what the time is.

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The thing i'm finding it hard to understand is " The Dutch are NAZI'S " I've been to Amsterdam quite a few times , the last was with the girlfriend last year to " stock up " on certain items shall we say on our way to Spa to watch the Belgium F1 GP , the Dutch are the most liberal and liad back people in Europe , about a billion times away from NAZI's on the political spectrum as you can get i recon .
That bloke who said that must have been to Sandoz labs and got given "a bad one " for sure , coz he ain't on the same planet as the rest of the world . Unless it's just political bolloks like all polititions say to get attention etc

Coffee shops not the other "service" they are known for , very happy with my lady thanks .

China is a dictatorship, they do as they are told. Europe has too many tin pot little countries. Stick with GMT it's the onlty time that makes sense.

But GMT wobbles all over why it was thrown out in favor of UTC.

How can UTC be good, it's an average taken after the event. And anyone knows if you have more than one timepiece you do not know what the time is.

No, GMT is taken after, and all up to some observer's eyeball to see the sun. However clocks today are so good a few feet of elevation changes their ticking just as Einstein said. Now what time is it?

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However clocks today are so good a few feet of elevation changes their ticking just as Einstein said.

That's "old" news that they proved it with 2 sycronised atomic clocks back in the late 70's early 80's ( ain't sure exactly but know it was when i was a kid and can't be arsed to look at wikipedia for the details , guarenteed there will be a page ) , the clock in the plane differed from the other one by a few billionths of a second or some infinitesimy small amount but still enough to prove Einstein correct .

And as for the other part of your post , depends on how much you pay for your time piece , me i got a dirt cheep digital / analoge one about £14 quid from Amazon , ain't going to pay or wear a rollex £10,000+ watch for work etc , i gets my hands dirty for a living , might be cheep but it tells the time perfectly well for me and even sets itself using the time signal in my country :-)

However clocks today are so good a few feet of elevation changes their ticking just as Einstein said.

That's "old" news that they proved it with 2 sycronised atomic clocks back in the late 70's early 80's ( ain't sure exactly but know it was when i was a kid and can't be arsed to look at wikipedia for the details , guarenteed there will be a page ) , the clock in the plane differed from the other one by a few billionths of a second or some infinitesimy small amount but still enough to prove Einstein correct .

That they did, but the planes were accelerating reference frames. IIRC one went east and the other west all the way around the planet. Much more recent they dragged one to the top of a mountain and compared it to the one on the valley floor. A more subtle difference.

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And the GPS satellites have to have their clocks specifically tuned to tick slower, due to their high velocity (~14,000 km/h). Their atomic clocks lose 7 microseconds per 24 hour period just because of the velocity. Then their altitude in the gravity well of Earth makes them tick 45 microseconds faster. The net of 38 microseconds/day means GPS readings would be wrong in under 2 minutes, and would be off by 10km/day.

Neat how General Relativity affects everyday things, isn't it?

The BBC is reporting that George Osborne has been appointed Editor of the London Evening Standard - subject to the mildest of regulatory approvals.

George Osborne was Britain's 'Chancellor' (Finance Minister) from 2010 to 2016 - responsible for the policy of 'austerity' after the financial crash, and a prominent supporter of continued EU membership. He is still a serving Member of Parliament, and apparently intends to remain so.

The London Evening Standard is a high-profile, even dominant, newspaper covering Britain's capital city. It's owned by the dissident Russian oligarch (and former KGB agent) Alexander Lebedev. It takes a robustly partisan editorial stance on issues such as the election of the powerful Mayor of London.

To me, this feels wrong on so many levels. What do other countries think about serving politicians taking editorial control of major newspapers?

To me, this feels wrong on so many levels.

Agree. For a start, he's just insulting the country. Forcing austerity on us then we see this:

"Since leaving frontline politics, the former chancellor has become a visiting fellow at a US university and an adviser to US fund manager BlackRock, for which he is being paid £650,000 for four days work a month."

Add to that his salary as an MP & as editor of the Standard, nice austerity!

"Patti Goddard, president of the Tatton Conservative Association, said it fully supported the former chancellor on his "exciting" career move, insisting it would not affect his reputation as a "hard-working" constituency MP."

Laughable!

4 days a week as editor plus one day a week at Blackrock? Where is the time for that "hard working" constituency MP?

BBC analysis is now available on their website, with more detail.

George Osborne to become editor of London Evening Standard

Edit - the nearest parallel I can think of is Silvio Berlusconi - but without the bunga bunga parties (so far).

That's where my quotes are from :-)

"But Labour MP Paul Flynn criticised what he said was the "revolving door" between government and the private sector.
He said efforts by the Advisory Committee on Business Appointments watchdog to stop former ministers from moving seamlessly into "lucrative" roles in other fields had proved "futile". "

& they wonder why we have no trust in them.

Never " liked" Osbourne , he's a smarmy little 4 letter word for poo at the best of times but this story is the bestest of all so far today

The US has agreed not to repeat claims the UK's communications intelligence agency wiretapped Donald Trump during the presidential election campaign.

Must of been hard for them amiting that " a - wipe " was wrong and apologise , but least they admitted it ( 1st time ever !!)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39300191

Haha P.M.S.L as i read the story and saw it on the news , what's the betting it's just a "footnote" in their news or not even mentioned coz "U.S.A are the greatest are never wrong are they ( bo##ox ;-) W.M.D anyone )

Finally!
U.K. to Trigger Brexit March 29

Prime Minister Theresa May will file divorce papers to leave the European Union on March 29, launching two years of complex negotiations that will pit the U.K.’s need for a trade deal against the bloc’s view that Britain shouldn’t benefit from Brexit.

Finally!
U.K. to Trigger Brexit March 29

Prime Minister Theresa May will file divorce papers to leave the European Union on March 29, launching two years of complex negotiations that will pit the U.K.’s need for a trade deal against the bloc’s view that Britain shouldn’t benefit from Brexit.

And according to the BBC, the Commission is far closer to being ready to commence negotiations than the UK is - they're expecting a formal reply, setting out the initial basis for discussions, within 48 hours. At least we'll be able to see what the words on the paper actually say - and find out whether the two positions are as far apart as I rather fear they might be.

What's the betting on " Gina Miller" trying to stop " article 50 " gettin triggerd again , It's been " to long" with all the peeing around in the courts already . ( i voted remain but the vote was for leave so let's " get the proverbial ball rolling along towards it " ) , probably already " weakend " the UK's position in many polititions eyes and that can't be much help going into negotiations :-( .

I'll believe it on 29th March 2019.

Is the electronics on planes ban part of a campaign to get the total ban on Muslim's to be acceptable?

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Is the electronics on planes ban part of a campaign to get the total ban on Muslim's to be acceptable?

Simon Calder, travel editor of the Independent, told the BBC the ban would particularly affect passengers who booked cheaper, hand luggage-only tickets, but would now have to pay to check a bag in.

Naw, just another revenue cashcow :-)

Is the electronics on planes ban part of a campaign to get the total ban on Muslim's to be acceptable?

I don't see were this ban makes any sense whatsoever. It probably makes the risk of flying higher. And anyway isn't there a ban on lithium batteries in cargo holds.

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Is the electronics on planes ban part of a campaign to get the total ban on Muslim's to be acceptable?

I don't see were this ban makes any sense whatsoever. It probably makes the risk of flying higher. And anyway isn't there a ban on lithium batteries in cargo holds.

Yes if they are over a certain capacity. Was this intended to make FedEx rich by making people ship them? Or was it intended to allow governments time to clone hard drives?

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