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Message 63859 - Posted: 26 Aug 2015, 22:57:30 UTC

Looks like Windows phone is up to 2.51% market share (not spectacular, but up 2% in 16 months) and the price for this Nokia 635 I picked up was $35 for AnTuTu 12,000.

Any hint that BOINC could be ported to Windows phone in the next year?
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Message 63888 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 15:33:31 UTC - in response to Message 63859.  

If it can also be used on the gpu it will be a game changer.
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Message 63924 - Posted: 30 Aug 2015, 7:35:40 UTC - in response to Message 63888.  
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Passmark PerformanceTestâ„¢ for the CPU's as of August 2015 has seen a drastic improvement in performance over the previous 3 years (seemingly an exponential growth but that maybe because the graph is over represented with older phones/tablets).

Samsung is kicking a$$ and taking names with their implementation in the S6 (SM-G925W8)of the Exynos 7420 octa-core processor and the ARM Mali-T760 GPU.

Seems like finally having their device operate in AArch64 in ARMv8-A has a large payoff or did those ARMv8.1-A changes make a huge improvement?
The Galaxy 4 was ARMv8-A but crippled into AArch32 mode and it shows on the Passmark being 1/10th the Galaxy 6 benchmark.

http://www.androidbenchmark.net/cpumark_chart.html (No Windows 8.1 phones in there because they haven't ported the utility to WinPhone).
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Message 64071 - Posted: 5 Sep 2015, 17:43:12 UTC

Just changed from an android phone to a windows 8 phone (not my choice, supplied by work). Only to find no boinc app!
It detected it as windows 32bit but wont down load the app.😢

Just wondering if when they roll out windows10 to phones will the 32bit boinc app work?
I thought that w10 is more scalable.
Does anybody have a better idea if this is so?
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Message 64246 - Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 19:53:36 UTC - in response to Message 64071.  

This question has been asked a few times over the last 3 years and the consensus was Windows phone just didn't have the market share and no one was taking the time to develop the BOINC app for Windows phone.

BOINC's not available on any RISC (re ARM) versions of Windows leaving many (almost all?) Windows tablets out too and isn't supposed to run under emulation either. Maybe this has changed; that's why I started this topic again since it's been a year since the last post.

See here:
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=9099#53517
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Message 64247 - Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 21:08:19 UTC

Since the development of BOINC has changed from a 'three paid-by-NSF funds developers outfit with lots of volunteer developers' to an 'only volunteer developers outfit', you best ask budding programmers/developers/code porters if they can port the source code to the Windows phone operating system and run from there.
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Message 64272 - Posted: 15 Sep 2015, 17:18:15 UTC - in response to Message 64246.  

BOINC's not available on any RISC (re ARM) versions of Windows leaving many (almost all?) Windows tablets out too and isn't supposed to run under emulation either. Maybe this has changed; that's why I started this topic again since it's been a year since the last post.

Although Windows phones are still using ARM processors, I've noticed that the Windows tablet market has been shifting towards x86 processors such as the Intel Atom and there are more options with full-fledged i3/5/7 series ultra-mobile chips. Microsoft's own Surface was only an ARM for the first generation, with an Atom in the Surface 2 and 3. That movement will probably be "helped" along by Microsoft effectively mothballing Windows RT; they will offer an update for RT users with some features, but no actual upgrade path to Windows 10.
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Message 64600 - Posted: 2 Oct 2015, 5:49:34 UTC - in response to Message 64247.  

Since the development of BOINC has changed from a 'three paid-by-NSF funds developers outfit with lots of volunteer developers' to an 'only volunteer developers outfit', you best ask budding programmers/developers/code porters if they can port the source code to the Windows phone operating system and run from there.


I'm not in the coding industry nor a part of their social community so I'll have to bide my time. Thanks for the response.
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Message 64601 - Posted: 2 Oct 2015, 5:54:07 UTC - in response to Message 64272.  

BOINC's not available on any RISC (re ARM) versions of Windows leaving many (almost all?) Windows tablets out too and isn't supposed to run under emulation either. Maybe this has changed; that's why I started this topic again since it's been a year since the last post.

Although Windows phones are still using ARM processors, I've noticed that the Windows tablet market has been shifting towards x86 processors such as the Intel Atom and there are more options with full-fledged i3/5/7 series ultra-mobile chips. Microsoft's own Surface was only an ARM for the first generation, with an Atom in the Surface 2 and 3. That movement will probably be "helped" along by Microsoft effectively mothballing Windows RT; they will offer an update for RT users with some features, but no actual upgrade path to Windows 10.



I was shopping on eBay for a used machine for BOINC and noticed the Atom CPU's in some but wasn't sure of the percentage of the market was Atom vs ARM in the series 2 and 3. Many manufacturers (Dell, HP) would use both AMD and Intel in the same mobile models and I guessed perhaps Microsoft was doing the same.

Thanks for the insight on the future of WinRT's and MS Surface tablets.
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Message 64674 - Posted: 5 Oct 2015, 0:36:29 UTC - in response to Message 64601.  

Many manufacturers (Dell, HP) would use both AMD and Intel in the same mobile models and I guessed perhaps Microsoft was doing the same.


With exception of the original Surface (which had an nVidia Tegra 3) the rest of the line-up has been Intel. Atom for Surface 2 & 3, and i3/i5/i7 for the Pro models. It looks like the 4th generation will be the same.

There are only a few AMD tablets out there, seems they've been having some problems getting on the boat. But, that seems to be the case with a lot of their business lately, they don't seem to be as strong of a competitor with Intel as they once were.
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