== Why should BOINC use grids == - Resources in general more secure and owners trusted - Can be used for result verification - Resources are more stable, available, and often underutilized - Easier to support low-latency jobs for example - Resources often connected by high bandwidth links - Could support data-intensive or data-parallel jobs - Environment (in terms of software/libraries) tends to be more homogeneous and configurable - Easy to run the BOINC client on a cluster and supercomputers by statically compiling a stand-alone client - Examples: condor pools that run BOINC jobs when their machines are not in use - Leverage existing grid software - Job submission often simpler with web portals - Single Scheduling Environment for both High Performance Computing (HPC) resources [Grids] and Volunteer Resources == Why should grids use BOINC == - Order of magnitude more computing power and storage at fraction of the cost - Many grid jobs are already task parallel, - Challenge - Lack of mechanisms and standards to allow a job submitted on a grid to run easily in BOINC - Cannot rely on the existence of a software stack - Concept of an individual user or job (and access rights) in BOINC - Credit accounting for these jobs - There are some pit falls that have been identified by uses BOINC on some Grid computing systems. Most of the problems identified in this session dealt with HPC/Grid Submission Systems and efficient use of Grid resources (allotted grid computing hours). -- Problem 1: Scheduled Grid client runs when server has no work The client would be idle burning time from the users allotted computer hours. -- Problem 2: Grid Scheduler kills jobs after time expires Even with check pointing data processed on the last WU would be lost. The workspace would be scratched. == Action Items == Incorporate some mechanism into the BOINC client to make it aware to a limited runtime environment. Potential Fixes: - EndOnNoWork Parameter If no work is available from the servers the BOINC client would end instead of deferring communication. - MaxWUCount Parameter After the max number of WU are reached; the new client would not request new work and then end gracefully.