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Message 56333 - Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 17:14:45 UTC

I have been at SETI since forever it seems and in all of that time the ONE problem has been processor heat. I am now running an Intel 6 core processor and am considering going to their new 8 core processor. BUT even with a Cool Master water cooling system I have heat related issues with BOINC. I have been thinking of a smallish refrigerator and a tank with a pump and water block to help cool the system. Then I thought... why must I solve a problem you have created for us all. Why must I spend additional money to solve what is in the final analysis your problem for us all. You ask for our assistance and give us nothing in return. If you cannot help me and others solve the heat problem then I will leave the system for all time. And as a side issue... I have been at this almost from the start... why did I have to create a new account to make this letter?
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Message 56339 - Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 20:38:46 UTC - in response to Message 56333.  

We're not the Seti forums, we're the BOINC (development) forums. Seti's Message boards and Help desk forums can be found at https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_community.php. You may want to repost in the Number Crunching forum, if at least you have a recent average credit (RAC) of more than 1 (one).

As for heat, if you truly want to crunch all out, don't go for a newer CPU but for one or more GPUs instead. Even having one Nvidia or AMD GPU in a system will turn out more work done per capita per day than a CPU ever can.
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Message 56349 - Posted: 1 Oct 2014, 2:19:08 UTC

I became interested which prosessor model exactly is your 6-core there? What is the max TDP value of it? What is the ambient temperature in your computer room?

If a water cooling system can't keep the heat levels low enough, then I think there might possibly be a problem with proper cooler contact and heat transfer.
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Message 56350 - Posted: 1 Oct 2014, 3:22:56 UTC - in response to Message 56349.  

If a water cooling system can't keep the heat levels low enough, then I think there might possibly be a problem with proper cooler contact and heat transfer.


+1, what kind of thermal compound are you using, how much, and how was it applied? The stuff doesn't last forever, with time and heat it breaks down as does nearly any chemical compound. I find that about every two years, or when I notice average heat increasing, cleaning off the CPU and heat sync and reapplying new compound can result in a drop of 5-10 C. You can actually tell when it's gone bad, instead of being somewhat fluid but lightly sticky, it will appear chunky and take a little effort to remove. I have a tube of Arctic Silver 5 which is what I've been using for a while, but I see there are other compounds that advertise better conductivity, such as the stuff made from synthetic diamonds.

By the way, you haven't actually mentioned any temperatures, nor your processor model... Some just like it hot.
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Message 56364 - Posted: 2 Oct 2014, 4:20:50 UTC - in response to Message 56333.  

BOINC is the Berkely Open Infrastructure for Network Computing. It's volunteer-based, which means that you don't have to upgrade your hardware and they don't have to give you anything in return for your crunching. For the record, I have the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo on my CPU. It was a necessary upgrade for BOINC, but the stock cooler had trouble keeping up with the temps, so it worked out.

Could you please post the temperatures you are reaching? My CPU is a Haswell, and those processors run pretty hot. For my specific model, I can run up to 80 degrees Celcius without having a problem, and up to 90 before it starts throttling. Chances are your "hot" CPU is just running at normal temps.

To recap, BOINC doesn't give you anything in return other than a name on the project because you volunteer your computer. If heat is a problem and you don't want to upgrade your hardware, configure it to use less of your computer.[/b][/u]
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