BOINC doesn't start

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Chris Send message Joined: 25 Sep 12 Posts: 4	Message 47647 - Posted: 5 Feb 2013, 21:31:34 UTC Last modified: 5 Feb 2013, 22:16:37 UTC BOINC runs if I set "Do work after idle for" to 0 minutes. It never starts if I set it to 1 minute or more. The only application which is running is BOINC manager. Intel Pentium 4 3GHZ x2.....Linux Mint-14/Cinnamon BOINC 7.0.27 (x86)............wxWidgets Version 2.8.12 Cosmology@Home.............FightMalaria@Home...............MindModelling@beta ID: 47647 ·

Jord Volunteer tester Help desk expert Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15484	Message 47649 - Posted: 5 Feb 2013, 22:18:09 UTC - in response to Message 47647. Which BOINC? You say that only BOINC Manager runs, must I assume you really mean only the GUI, or does the BOINC binary also run? (BOINC consists of two parts, a client and a manager). And even then, no science applications that run? What are the messages saying? etc. etc. See this thread for what we please would like to know about at minimum. And be as eloquent about it as you can. ID: 47649 ·

Chris Send message Joined: 25 Sep 12 Posts: 4	Message 47650 - Posted: 5 Feb 2013, 22:41:08 UTC - in response to Message 47649. I have set "Do work after idle for" using the thing which calls itself BOINC Manager on my machine - I assume this is what you mean by the GUI. By "BOINC running" I mean the program that does the work which I think you call the client. It has only worked on Cosmology@Home so far. There are now details of my setup in my signature. Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Starting BOINC client version 7.0.27 for i686-pc-linux-gnu Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Libraries: libcurl/7.27.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1c zlib/1.2.7 libidn/1.25 librtmp/2.3 Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz [Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 3] Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Processor: 2.00 MB cache Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est cid cx16 xtpr Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| OS: Linux: 3.5.0-17-generic Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Memory: 938.47 MB physical, 3.90 GB virtual Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Disk: 11.82 GB total, 6.96 GB free Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Local time is UTC +0 hours Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| No usable GPUs found Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Config: GUI RPC allowed from: Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| A new version of BOINC is available. <a href=http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php>Download it.</a> Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| Cosmology@Home \| URL http://www.cosmologyathome.org/; Computer ID 183789; resource share 100 Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| fightmalaria@home \| URL http://boinc.ucd.ie/fmah/; Computer ID 13694; resource share 100 Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| MindModeling@Beta \| URL http://mindmodeling.org/; Computer ID 32304; resource share 100 Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| No general preferences found - using defaults Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Reading preferences override file Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Preferences: Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| max memory usage when active: 469.24MB Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| max memory usage when idle: 844.63MB Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| max disk usage: 1.97GB Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| don't compute while active Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| don't use GPU while active Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager) Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Not using a proxy Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:31 GMT \| \| Suspending computation - computer is in use Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| \| No general preferences found - using defaults Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| \| Reading preferences override file Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| \| Preferences: Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| \| max memory usage when active: 469.24MB Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| \| max memory usage when idle: 844.63MB Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| \| max disk usage: 1.97GB Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| \| don't use GPU while active Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| \| (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager) Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| Cosmology@Home \| Restarting task wu_013013_113046_3_1_0 using camb version 216 in slot 0 Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| Cosmology@Home \| Restarting task wu_013013_113051_1_1_0 using camb version 216 in slot 1 Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:26:21 GMT \| \| No general preferences found - using defaults Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:26:21 GMT \| \| Reading preferences override file Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:26:21 GMT \| \| Preferences: Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:26:21 GMT \| \| max memory usage when active: 469.24MB Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:26:21 GMT \| \| max memory usage when idle: 844.63MB Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:26:21 GMT \| \| max disk usage: 1.97GB Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:26:21 GMT \| \| don't compute while active Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:26:21 GMT \| \| don't use GPU while active Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:26:21 GMT \| \| (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager) Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:26:22 GMT \| \| Suspending computation - computer is in use Intel Pentium 4 3GHZ x2.....Linux Mint-14/Cinnamon BOINC 7.0.27 (x86)............wxWidgets Version 2.8.12 Cosmology@Home.............FightMalaria@Home...............MindModelling@beta ID: 47650 ·

Jord Volunteer tester Help desk expert Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15484	Message 47654 - Posted: 6 Feb 2013, 9:22:42 UTC - in response to Message 47650. There are now details of my setup in my signature. Yeah, about that. Stating which wxwidgets version your BOINC uses is totally unnecessary. It's like stating that you drive a Toyota Corolla with a walnut dashboard. Information we won't be using, ever. ;-) Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| Starting BOINC client version 7.0.27 for i686-pc-linux-gnu This BOINC version can be flawed by the problem with regards to detecting idleness when using USB mice/keyboards. Not necessarily though, since I see: Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| don't compute while active Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:27 GMT \| \| don't use GPU while active Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:31 GMT \| \| Suspending computation - computer is in use Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| Cosmology@Home \| Restarting task wu_013013_113046_3_1_0 using camb version 216 in slot 0 Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT \| Cosmology@Home \| Restarting task wu_013013_113051_1_1_0 using camb version 216 in slot 1 Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:26:22 GMT \| \| Suspending computation - computer is in use According to your own log, your BOINC reacts to the preference to suspend computation when the computer is in use, and it restarts when apparently there's no one using the computer, to then suspend again when someone is using it. So I don't get the problem. Unless you meant to say that you can fill in zero at "Do work after idle for", but in most cases in BOINC, when you fill in zero, you tell BOINC not to use the option. I suspect that's the same here. ID: 47654 ·

Chris Send message Joined: 25 Sep 12 Posts: 4	Message 47661 - Posted: 6 Feb 2013, 19:31:35 UTC Last modified: 6 Feb 2013, 19:49:20 UTC I am not using a USB mouse or keyboard. I have seen evidence of the processing starting in the Manager and Linux System Monitor - the Manager screen shows "Running" and the System Monitor shows a major leap in processor activity. That evidence does not show unless I set the value to 0. I have screenshots but don't know how to post them here. You may be able to understand the messages in that listing better than I, but I think those lines which mention "Restarting task" were caused because I was changing the "Do work after idle for" option backwards and forwards to see what happened and it had been set to 0. Unless you meant to say that you can fill in zero at "Do work after idle for", but in most cases in BOINC, when you fill in zero, you tell BOINC not to use the option. I suspect that's the same here. I'm sorry I don't understand this sentence. Intel Pentium 4 3GHZ x2.....Linux Mint-14/Cinnamon BOINC 7.0.27 (x86)............wxWidgets Version 2.8.12 Cosmology@Home.............FightMalaria@Home...............MindModelling@beta ID: 47661 ·

Jord Volunteer tester Help desk expert Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15484	Message 47663 - Posted: 6 Feb 2013, 19:46:44 UTC - in response to Message 47661. You may be able to understand the messages in that listing better than I, but I think those lines which mention "Restarting task" were caused because I was changing the "Do work after idle for" option backwards and forwards to see what happened and it had been set to 0. If between Tue 05 Feb 2013 19:54:31 GMT and Tue 05 Feb 2013 21:25:32 GMT your computer was not in use, then you have the normal idle bug that's been fixed in 7.0.29 But having said that, under Linux it's very difficult to get the idle function to work correctly, especially so between distros. You don't say which BOINC you used, installed by Berkeley installer, or gotten from repo. I suspect the latter, since it is the 7.0.27 version which is severely bug ridden, and we keep wondering why package maintainers like this version so much. See if your repository has a newer (beta) version of BOINC available. Anything from 7.0.29 and past it. Unless you meant to say that you can fill in zero at "Do work after idle for", but in most cases in BOINC, when you fill in zero, you tell BOINC not to use the option. I suspect that's the same here. I'm sorry I don't understand this sentence. You said in your first post BOINC runs if I set "Do work after idle for" to 0 minutes. In most preferences in BOINC, such as e.g. the "Suspend work if CPU usage is above X%", when you set it to zero you disable it. It's then set to run always. I think that's the same with "Do work after idle for 0 minutes" as zero minutes is essentially saying "disable this option and work always". ID: 47663 ·

Chris Send message Joined: 25 Sep 12 Posts: 4	Message 47666 - Posted: 6 Feb 2013, 20:26:42 UTC I take the versions of software that come with the distribution unless there are good reasons not to. In this case it looks like there is. I have installed .28 and it starts automatically when the computer is not in use. You last paragraph makes sense to me now and I agree that is what those sort of values in options mean. Dankjewel Ageless! Intel Pentium 4 3GHZ x2.....Linux Mint-14/Cinnamon BOINC 7.0.27 (x86)............wxWidgets Version 2.8.12 Cosmology@Home.............FightMalaria@Home...............MindModelling@beta ID: 47666 ·

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