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Message 43222 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 9:30:12 UTC

Hello,
my name is Pop Horea-Vasile from Romania.
I'm running now Boinc on second host, that is an pentium at 1.8 GHz, with windows xp sp3 as OS. I've installed and unistall several programs regarding cpu load and temperature.
Boinc is now running at only 20% load on cpu. The settings are at 100% but still not doing at that load.
Please assist me on solutioning this problem.
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Message 43223 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 9:34:55 UTC - in response to Message 43222.  

BOINC itself (boinc.exe) should not use any CPU cycles after doing the benchmarks. BOINC Manager (boincmgr.exe) should only use about 1% every so often, for updating things the client does in real time.

So, that begs the question, what do you see taking that load?
Do you have any project added?
If so, which one?
Does it have work actually on the machine, or is it still downloading it all?
If there's work on the machine, what kind of work? Just CPU or also GPU?
How many cores does your Pentium have, and does it do hyper-threading? When in Windows Task Manager->Performance, how many windows are there in the CPU Usage history section?
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Message 43224 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 9:41:30 UTC - in response to Message 43223.  

Have 3 projects added: seti,milkyway and freehal.
It has work to do and it's doing.
It is an pentium 1.8 GHz, single cpu, socket 478.
No GPUs.

So, in task manager it shows that cpu it's working at 20% not 100% as it is set on BOINC. That is the problem.
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Message 43225 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 9:51:08 UTC - in response to Message 43223.  

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Message 43226 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 9:51:51 UTC - in response to Message 43223.  

That is with team viewer running.
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Message 43227 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 9:57:16 UTC - in response to Message 43225.  

Can you show the processes tab please, with the option to "show processes from all users" on?
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Message 43228 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 9:58:42 UTC - in response to Message 43225.  
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What Boinc version are you running?

You're running a non-CPU intensive app, and a Seti 6.03 CPU app, the Stock 6.03 CPU app has been known to stall on some CPUs (effectively meaning only the non-CPU intensive app is running), try restarting Boinc,

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Message 43229 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 10:08:17 UTC - in response to Message 43227.  

At ussers accounts at messed up trying to solve the problem.

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Message 43230 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 10:10:07 UTC - in response to Message 43228.  

I've seen that is is a problem with seti. It says that it returned 0. I've restarted boinc several times.
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Message 43231 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 10:18:46 UTC - in response to Message 43227.  

I can give you the id and password to team viewer at the host.
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Message 43233 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 12:02:06 UTC - in response to Message 43231.  
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When requesting help...

When you're requesting help on these forums, please, always be so kind as to give information about which BOINC version you run (See Help->About BOINC in BOINC Manager), about your system, the projects you are attached to and what you have done so far to try to remedy the problem.

Follow these simple steps:

Windows
- In all cases: Please tell us which BOINC version you are using. You can find this information in BOINC Manager->Advanced view->Help->About BOINC Manager.

- When BOINC Manager refuses to make contact with the client, make sure that you did allow both Boinc.exe and Boincmgr.exe through your firewall. Check that your firewall didn't receive an update and reset connections. If it worked before and now it doesn't, it's something on your system that changed. You just have to work back and figure out what. For other hints on this specific problem, see this FAQ.

- If you have problems with your screen saver or graphics, please state which projects you run, which project(s) you have the problem with, what you see and expected to see. For hardware/software check, please state what your videocard is (brand and model), DirectX version, Operating system and most crucially, drivers version. See this FAQ for other hints.

- When you have installation problems in Windows, check in the Windows Event Viewer (Start->(Control Panel->)Administrative Tools->Event Viewer) for clues and post those in your post. Or give the error number and/or complete error message that the installer shows. Check for the error before posting, write it down or take a screen shot.

- When you see a Blue Screen of Death (BSOD), make sure you catch what the error is that's displayed on it. There isn't just one BSOD in Windows, so if you come on the forums and say you caught "the BSOD", you'll always be asked what it said. Be prepared to give that information, either by writing it down, or by checking in your Windows Event Viewer (Start->(Control Panel->)Administrative Tools->Event Viewer).
Please do know that we cannot look over your shoulder to see what you see or do. You will have to give as much information as you possibly can. You are the one with the problem, so you will have to be as informative as possible to give us a clue as to what you are on about.


Linux
- In all cases: Please tell us which BOINC version you are using. You can find this information in BOINC Manager->Advanced view->Help->About BOINC Manager.

- When BOINC Manager refuses to make contact with the client, check in top that the BOINC binary is actually running. If that is, and you still have problems, make sure to allow the BOINC binaries (boinc and boincmgr) through your firewall, boinc needs access on TCP 80, 443 and 31416, boincmgr needs access on TCP 31416.

- When you have installation problems in Linux, please state which Linux distro; 32bit or 64bit? which BOINC are you using, the one from their package manager or the one from Berkeley? Which BOINC version?

- When you get a library not found error, have you first tried to update your Linux distro to that library version? You can find most libraries through your package manager. And yes, it's your duty to keep your Linux as up-to-date as possible.

- If you have problems with your screen saver or graphics, please state which projects you run, which project(s) you have the problem with, what you see and expected to see. For hardware/software check, please state what your videocard is (brand and model), DirectX version, Operating system and most crucially, drivers version. See this FAQ for other hints.


Macintosh
- BOINC can't start up and it keeps pestering you about reinstalling. Reinstalling/uninstalling/repair installing does not help. Upgrade to BOINC 7; BOINC 6.12 had many problems with the installer, these are all fixed in BOINC 7.

- If you have problems with your screen saver or graphics, please state which projects you run, which project(s) you have the problem with, what you see and expected to see. For hardware/software check, please state what your videocard is (brand and model), DirectX version, Operating system and most crucially, drivers version. See this FAQ for other hints.


General
-- In cases where you don't know how to find any information about your system, exit BOINC completely and restart it. Next copy and post the first 20 to 30 lines from the start-up messages. That'll give us enough information about your system, plus it might show a peek into your problem.

- When having problems with tasks (not) switching, please make sure to post which projects you're attached to and which are all allowed to fetch work and which have work. Check that you didn't set your preferences on the project web site to omit using your CPU or GPU. Check that you didn't suspend the project, the tasks or the use of the piece of hardware.

- If you have preferences problems, please post the contents of your global_prefs.xml file and if it exists the contents of the global_prefs.override.xml file. These files can be found in your BOINC Data directory.

Your system isn't registered at the BOINC project, so we cannot look it up and check what it's doing. It's only registered at the projects you added and even then, only when it returns errors, can we check what is wrong with it (if the system isn't hidden).

Your system doesn't just consist of a videocard and an Operating System; it'll contain a motherboard, CPU, memory, network card, audio card, lots of fans, a power supply unit, drivers for all the hardware, lots of other programs and probably a lot of dust. Please be as detailed in describing your system as you possibly can. But do not copy everything that certain tools will give you as 'details', as that's just too much.

Minimum we request is CPU brand/model/speed, GPU brand/model/speed, amount of RAM, version of DirectX, drivers version for the videocard, your Operating System (and please state if it's 32bit or 64bit).

With thanks for your help and understanding.



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Message 43235 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 16:11:51 UTC - in response to Message 43229.  

No, I am not going to use whatever remote access thingy to check things on your computer. Now, Claggy has a point, try his help first. Never hurts.

As for the Windows task manager window, you can resize that. It can even be made screen filling (maximized). It can also be shown by CPU usage, by (double-)clicking on the column CPU, so all high CPU cycles usage applications are showing at the top of the screen. Again, at "show processes for all user".
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Message 43237 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 16:39:49 UTC - in response to Message 43235.  
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At users account I maked Boinc accounts with administrator privilegies and Owner account with limited rights. So when I logged in only owner account was, so, I'm logged with limited rights. Can't show you for all users.


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Message 43238 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 17:37:49 UTC - in response to Message 43237.  

Can you please navigate to your BOINC Data directory and post the contents of the global_prefs.xml file and if it exists the contents of global_prefs_oberride.xml? These files can be opened with Notepad or Wordpad, no need to use an XML editor.

The data directory is at default at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC\ in WinXP. It may be hidden, so either put the path to it directly into Windows Explorer, or instruct Windows Explorer to show hidden files and folders.
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Message 43241 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 19:52:02 UTC - in response to Message 43238.  

<global_preferences>
<source_project>http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/</source_project>
<source_scheduler>http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway_cgi/cgi</source_scheduler>
<mod_time>1333137173</mod_time>
<run_on_batteries>0</run_on_batteries>
<run_if_user_active>1</run_if_user_active>
<run_gpu_if_user_active>1</run_gpu_if_user_active>
<idle_time_to_run>3</idle_time_to_run>
<suspend_if_no_recent_input>0</suspend_if_no_recent_input>
<suspend_cpu_usage>97</suspend_cpu_usage>
<leave_apps_in_memory>0</leave_apps_in_memory>
<cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>20</cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>
<max_cpus>95</max_cpus>
<max_ncpus_pct>95</max_ncpus_pct>
<cpu_usage_limit>95</cpu_usage_limit>
<disk_max_used_gb>100</disk_max_used_gb>
<disk_min_free_gb>0.001</disk_min_free_gb>
<disk_max_used_pct>90</disk_max_used_pct>
<disk_interval>60</disk_interval>
<vm_max_used_pct>75</vm_max_used_pct>
<ram_max_used_busy_pct>95</ram_max_used_busy_pct>
<ram_max_used_idle_pct>96</ram_max_used_idle_pct>
<work_buf_min_days>0</work_buf_min_days>
<work_buf_additional_days>0.25</work_buf_additional_days>
<confirm_before_connecting>0</confirm_before_connecting>
<hangup_if_dialed>0</hangup_if_dialed>
<max_bytes_sec_down>0</max_bytes_sec_down>
<max_bytes_sec_up>0</max_bytes_sec_up>
<daily_xfer_limit_mb>0</daily_xfer_limit_mb>
<daily_xfer_period_days>0</daily_xfer_period_days>
<dont_verify_images>0</dont_verify_images>
</global_preferences>
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override:
<global_preferences>
<run_on_batteries>0</run_on_batteries>
<run_if_user_active>1</run_if_user_active>
<run_gpu_if_user_active>1</run_gpu_if_user_active>
<suspend_cpu_usage>98.000000</suspend_cpu_usage>
<start_hour>0.000000</start_hour>
<end_hour>0.000000</end_hour>
<net_start_hour>0.000000</net_start_hour>
<net_end_hour>0.000000</net_end_hour>
<leave_apps_in_memory>0</leave_apps_in_memory>
<confirm_before_connecting>0</confirm_before_connecting>
<hangup_if_dialed>0</hangup_if_dialed>
<dont_verify_images>0</dont_verify_images>
<work_buf_min_days>0.000000</work_buf_min_days>
<work_buf_additional_days>0.250000</work_buf_additional_days>
<max_ncpus_pct>100.000000</max_ncpus_pct>
<cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>20.000000</cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>
<disk_interval>60.000000</disk_interval>
<disk_max_used_gb>100.000000</disk_max_used_gb>
<disk_max_used_pct>90.000000</disk_max_used_pct>
<disk_min_free_gb>0.000000</disk_min_free_gb>
<vm_max_used_pct>90.000000</vm_max_used_pct>
<ram_max_used_busy_pct>98.000000</ram_max_used_busy_pct>
<ram_max_used_idle_pct>98.000000</ram_max_used_idle_pct>
<max_bytes_sec_up>0.000000</max_bytes_sec_up>
<max_bytes_sec_down>0.000000</max_bytes_sec_down>
<cpu_usage_limit>100.000000</cpu_usage_limit>
<daily_xfer_limit_mb>0.000000</daily_xfer_limit_mb>
<daily_xfer_period_days>0</daily_xfer_period_days>
</global_preferences>
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Message 43242 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 20:24:23 UTC

It all looks OK, so the only thing I can think of is some corruption somewhere. To fix that, Clear the local preferences (Advanced view->Tools->Computing preferences, Clear button) and reload the on line preferences (Advanced view->Projects tab->Select either Milkyway or Seti and click Update).

And otherwise it's some process that's running amok under the main admin's account, that you can't see, unless you log in as administrator.
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Message 43251 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 16:23:09 UTC - in response to Message 43242.  
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Finally I solved the problem.
I think you are very curious about it.
SO...
it was a thread installed or I don't now were it came from.
I found it on servicies in control panel. It was not permited the overload on cpu. So, I disabled and now I'm back with 100% computation on cpu.
Be aware of monitoring cpu overload with title Thread on servicies.

Anyway, thank you for the support.
PS: It is an addon software not specific for Boinc. Seems that I installed and didn't remebered about it.
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