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Message 39124 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 14:40:26 UTC

I've had to place a shortcut to boincmgr.exe in All Users Startup Programs list.

I can't recall ever having to do that before.

I have tried checking the Run Boinc Manager at logon in Options and it keeps unchecking itself seemingly as it hitherto would not start with Windows.

The older version worked fine.
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Message 39125 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 14:43:56 UTC - in response to Message 39124.  

Which are your 'older' and 'latest' versions - hard numbers, please.

Are you following the 'recommended' releases v6.10.58 --> v6.12.26 -->v6.12.33, or are you talking about yesterday's alpha release v6.13.1?
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Message 39126 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 14:52:55 UTC

Additional question: which Windows?
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Message 39129 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 15:33:29 UTC - in response to Message 39125.  
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Which are your 'older' and 'latest' versions - hard numbers, please.

Are you following the 'recommended' releases v6.10.58 --> v6.12.26 -->v6.12.33, or are you talking about yesterday's alpha release v6.13.1?


Windows Vista x64

Boinc Manager 6.12.33 (x64)

To confuse matters I just did a System Restore to undo another process and now have to once again stick a shortcut to boincmgr.exe in the Startup folder.
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Message 39130 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 15:38:23 UTC

Did you check what the status was at BOINC Manager-Advanced view->Tools->Display and network options, of "Run Manager at login?"

Also, in the installer, did you make any changes to the 'default settings'? If not, then do know that since somewhere in a 6.10 version there's been a bug in the BOINC installer which makes the installer 'forget' to check the "Allow all users to control BOINC" setting. You have to specifically check this option at each BOINC install, by clicking the Advanced button in the third screen of the installer and then checking the option, before continuing the installation.
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Message 39131 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 15:48:45 UTC - in response to Message 39130.  

Did you check what the status was at BOINC Manager-Advanced view->Tools->Display and network options, of "Run Manager at login?"


Yes did that as I mentioned earlier.

Also, in the installer, did you make any changes to the 'default settings'? If not, then do know that since somewhere in a 6.10 version there's been a bug in the BOINC installer which makes the installer 'forget' to check the "Allow all users to control BOINC" setting. You have to specifically check this option at each BOINC install, by clicking the Advanced button in the third screen of the installer and then checking the option, before continuing the installation.


No, that's the first I've heard of this, so what does one do after the fact then?
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Message 39132 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 15:54:18 UTC - in response to Message 39131.  

After the fact you'll have to set for each user that you allowed to control BOINC that their Manager can run at login. Or you uninstall BOINC & reinstall it, this time taking the actual Advanced detour... whichever is easier for you.
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Message 39133 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 16:04:20 UTC - in response to Message 39132.  

Well I dropped a shortcut to boincmgr.exe in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup isn't that sufficient?

How do I set what you said for each user?

I don't really want it running in other user accounts anyway.
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Message 39134 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 16:05:49 UTC

If you didn't know, in v6.12.33 you can go (in Advanced view) to the Tools menu, 'Display and network options...' (not intuitive, I know), and find a checkbox for 'Run Manager at login?'. That would be easier than making your own shortcut.

Note that when started that way, BOINC runs silently in the system tray/notification area - under Windows7, the icon is invisible by default, and the same may be true under Vista. Before you change anything, make sure BM isn't running already in the background.
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Message 39135 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 16:06:08 UTC - in response to Message 39133.  

By the way, I really don't want to go the uninstall/reinstall route as I have almost 100 WU's at the moment and I don't want to mess that up.
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Message 39136 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 16:13:22 UTC - in response to Message 39134.  

If you didn't know, in v6.12.33 you can go (in Advanced view) to the Tools menu, 'Display and network options...' (not intuitive, I know), and find a checkbox for 'Run Manager at login?'. That would be easier than making your own shortcut.

Note that when started that way, BOINC runs silently in the system tray/notification area - under Windows7, the icon is invisible by default, and the same may be true under Vista. Before you change anything, make sure BM isn't running already in the background.


I'll see if that setting sticks at next boot otherwise I'll do the shortcut dropping thing.

No I did check and it wasn't running.
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Message 39137 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 16:28:47 UTC - in response to Message 39136.  

It did stick so all is well, thanks very much ;-)
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Message 39138 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 16:59:18 UTC - in response to Message 39135.  

By the way, I really don't want to go the uninstall/reinstall route as I have almost 100 WU's at the moment and I don't want to mess that up.

When you uninstall BOINC, only the BOINC program files (boinc.exe, boincmgr.exe, boincscr.exe, boinccmd.exe and the various .dll files) will be removed from the C:\Program Files\BOINC directory. The BOINC Data directory will be left in place, that will only go away if you manually remove it.

When you upgrade BOINC to a next version, the installer of the new version will invoke the uninstaller of the old version first, which uninstalls your old BOINC, before the installer installs the new BOINC. Have you ever lost work that way? If not, then you shouldn't fear an Uninstall either.
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Message 39139 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 17:21:18 UTC - in response to Message 39138.  

You are right, I'll try it when I get a moment.
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Message 39141 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 17:48:34 UTC - in response to Message 39139.  

OK I uninstalled/reinstalled as per your suggestion and all is well. Thanks for the help.
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