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Ken Starnes

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Message 12002 - Posted: 9 Aug 2007, 14:22:01 UTC
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I have a new pc and was wondering whether I can backup an existing installation with currently running tasks and restore it to a new PC (Having installed the same version of BOINC on the new PC) and carry on from where I was?

It's becase I have the BBC client running and only about 10% through the crunching; the new PC is faster and the old PC I will be handing over to someone else at work.

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Les Bayliss
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Message 12003 - Posted: 9 Aug 2007, 14:38:20 UTC


Information on how to do this is here.

You may also find the READMEs here helpful, as well as my post below them on Moving to the Oxford Parent Site after you finish at BBC project.

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Message 12005 - Posted: 9 Aug 2007, 15:05:07 UTC - in response to Message 12003.  


Information on how to do this is here.

You may also find the READMEs here helpful, as well as my post below them on Moving to the Oxford Parent Site after you finish at BBC project.


Les

I'm misleading you here (I Think). I'm running the Climateprediction.net client within BOINC not the old BBC Client.

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Message 12006 - Posted: 9 Aug 2007, 15:21:32 UTC
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It's basically the same thing, as far as swapping computers is concerned.
Just ignore my "Moving" post if you're already on cpdn.

PS
If you use the Search facility on the BOINC help boards on cpdn, you'll find previous answers to most questions, including Moving Computers, which is a very common question.

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Message 12007 - Posted: 9 Aug 2007, 15:47:03 UTC
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Hi Ken

It makes no difference to the method of moving the model. A BBC model running on an updated boinc manager can be moved in exactly the same way.

Basically, from the old computer you first make a backup of the complete contents of the boinc folder -

*suspend the model in the Activity menu then exit from boinc

*on somewhere that the new computer will be able to see eg external hard drive or disk, create a new folder. Call it eg BBC model backup from old computer + date

*on the old computer open My computer - C drive - Program files - Boinc

*Double-click on Boinc to open its contents

*Edit - Select all. The whole list will be highlighted

*Edit - Copy

*Now go to the new folder you created elsewhere. Right-click on it. In the menu that opens, click Paste. The pasting will take a minute or two. You now have a backup

Get it onto the new computer

*On the new computer go to C - Program files - Boinc.

*Double-click on Boinc to open the folder. Edit - Select all. Edit - delete. This folder will now be empty.

*Follow the same copying and pasting procedure to copy the contents of your backup folder into the empty boinc folder on the new computer

*It should work and the model should start running

You can have as many tries at that as you need because you'll still have a working package of boinc + model on the old computer. The golden rule is not to uninstall boinc on the old computer until the model's working on the new one.

If you want you can at any time update the boinc version you have. It doesn't need to stay the same.

Let us know how you get on with that.


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Message 12019 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 7:34:35 UTC - in response to Message 12007.  

Hi Ken

It makes no difference to the method of moving the model. A BBC model running on an updated boinc manager can be moved in exactly the same way.

Basically, from the old computer you first make a backup of the complete contents of the boinc folder -

*suspend the model in the Activity menu then exit from boinc

*on somewhere that the new computer will be able to see eg external hard drive or disk, create a new folder. Call it eg BBC model backup from old computer + date

*on the old computer open My computer - C drive - Program files - Boinc

*Double-click on Boinc to open its contents

*Edit - Select all. The whole list will be highlighted

*Edit - Copy

*Now go to the new folder you created elsewhere. Right-click on it. In the menu that opens, click Paste. The pasting will take a minute or two. You now have a backup

Get it onto the new computer

*On the new computer go to C - Program files - Boinc.

*Double-click on Boinc to open the folder. Edit - Select all. Edit - delete. This folder will now be empty.

*Follow the same copying and pasting procedure to copy the contents of your backup folder into the empty boinc folder on the new computer

It is usually a good idea to install BOINC to the new directory at this point. That sets registry items and junk like that.

*It should work and the model should start running

You can have as many tries at that as you need because you'll still have a working package of boinc + model on the old computer. The golden rule is not to uninstall boinc on the old computer until the model's working on the new one.

If you want you can at any time update the boinc version you have. It doesn't need to stay the same.

Let us know how you get on with that.



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Ken Starnes

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Message 12024 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 15:29:50 UTC - in response to Message 12019.  
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Hi Ken

It makes no difference to the method of moving the model. A BBC model running on an updated boinc manager can be moved in exactly the same way.

Basically, from the old computer you first make a backup of the complete contents of the boinc folder -

*suspend the model in the Activity menu then exit from boinc

*on somewhere that the new computer will be able to see eg external hard drive or disk, create a new folder. Call it eg BBC model backup from old computer + date

*on the old computer open My computer - C drive - Program files - Boinc

*Double-click on Boinc to open its contents

*Edit - Select all. The whole list will be highlighted

*Edit - Copy

*Now go to the new folder you created elsewhere. Right-click on it. In the menu that opens, click Paste. The pasting will take a minute or two. You now have a backup

Get it onto the new computer

*On the new computer go to C - Program files - Boinc.

*Double-click on Boinc to open the folder. Edit - Select all. Edit - delete. This folder will now be empty.

*Follow the same copying and pasting procedure to copy the contents of your backup folder into the empty boinc folder on the new computer

It is usually a good idea to install BOINC to the new directory at this point. That sets registry items and junk like that.

*It should work and the model should start running

You can have as many tries at that as you need because you'll still have a working package of boinc + model on the old computer. The golden rule is not to uninstall boinc on the old computer until the model's working on the new one.

If you want you can at any time update the boinc version you have. It doesn't need to stay the same.

Let us know how you get on with that.



I have just restored a Zipped backup to the folder and started BOIC up. So far I have seen no errors running it (yet). And now I have the luxury of dual cores processing the data .

Thanks guys

PS for Les
I have searched the forums using the keyword "Moving" and it only came up with my posts and some other obscure and not to do with moving PCs.


Ken

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Message 12025 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 16:41:41 UTC
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Hi again Ken

Congratulations! The more models that complete, the better for the researchers.

Les provided two links, the first of which isn't now working as it probably led to a web page that's currently down (cpdn servers are down until Sunday or Monday for planned maintenance). But the second led here

http://www.climateprediction.net/board/index.php?sid=b6bf3536057474f6be0211084d081c15

to the cpdn independent forum, still working because it's hosted at a different uni. You'll find the project READMes in the top section. There's info about moving models to another computer in the README about running the model.

At cpdn we advise everyone to make regular backups eg weekly using the above method or one of the more sophisticated methods described in the READMEs. (Not necessary for crunchers of other projects only.) When a model has been moved to a much faster computer, there's another problem to do with the speeding up that could possibly crash the model later on, so it's particularly important to back up the contents of the boinc folder regularly. With a backup the model can be brought back to life and with help available on the forum, a fix for the problem is available. I think it's unlikely to occur in the case of a model that had only crunched about 6%, but you never know.

If you do need any more advice in the future about your model, the cpdn forum is probably the best place to post about it.
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Message 12528 - Posted: 17 Sep 2007, 0:02:57 UTC - in response to Message 12024.  

And now I have the luxury of dual cores processing the data .

No you don't, actually. CPDN, like all other BOINC projects, doesn't take advantage of multiple cores. The only advantage you get is you can run two models at the same time (or a CPDN model and a workunit from another project, of course).
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