With BOINC installed on a couple vista machines, BOINC seems to be ignoring preference to suspend projects when user is active.

I thought this might be a problem with BAM, but after detaching from BAM the issue continues to occur. Machines running Win XP & Win 2k using the same preferences run fine.

Any suggestions?

Details, Details, Details ...

BOINC 5.8.16 running SETI, Einstein & Rosetta. Currently installed as a service, but I've tried shared also.

Yes, both machines are set for "Run based on preferences."

Also... I had this problem on a Win XP machine. However, after I "Stop[ped] using BOINCstats BAM!" to let BOINC talk with the projects the old fashioned way, the problem cleared up on the XP machine. Hence, the reason I thought BAM was at fault. I've since reattached the XP machine to BAM and its been working fine. This procedure did not clear-up the problem on either Vista machine.

FYI... I'm trying a clean install (uninstall and delete folders) of BOINC without using BAM. I'll report back ASAP.

Is there not accidentally a global_prefs_override.xml?



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The clean install didn't solve the problem. BOINC still runs unabated.

There is a "global_prefs.xml" in the BOINC folder. This is after a clean install.

I won't be able to check-in for a day or two. If you have any further questions, I respond ASAP.

What do these 2 values say in the global_prefs.xml?

<run_if_user_active /> ???
<idle_time_to_run>???</idle_time_to_run>

AND, have you reset the activity to 'according preferences'?


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<idle_time_to_run>3</idle_time_to_run>

There isn't an entry for <run_if_user_active>, nor do I see anything similar.

Activity has been & is set for "Run based on preferences".

Having this issue as well using versions 5.8.16 and 5.10.6 (Windows x64) on Vista x64.

Having this issue as well using versions 5.8.16 and 5.10.6 (Windows x64) on Vista x64.

I've seen stranger things happen so....

Check your general preferences on one of your projects. Make sure the "Do work while the computer is in use" is set to no. Even if it is, change it to yes and then back to no. Once it's set back to no, update that project through the manager to get your general preferences downloaded again.

Also make sure the host is set to the same location (home/work/school) as you're using to manager your preferences.

Other than that, I'm out of ideas.

17/06/2007 14:05:08|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
17/06/2007 14:05:08|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
17/06/2007 14:05:13|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
17/06/2007 14:05:13||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-06-17 14:04:35)
17/06/2007 14:05:13||Host location: home
17/06/2007 14:05:13||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
17/06/2007 14:05:13||Reading preferences override file
17/06/2007 14:05:13||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 511.38MB
17/06/2007 14:05:13||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 920.48MB
17/06/2007 14:05:13||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB

Removing the preference override file by the use of the 'clear' button didn't help sadly. Neither did setting up local settings afterwards telling Boinc to suspend while user is active. Computation continues happily unaware that I'm trying to choke it.

I noticed a slight glitch with the preferences window as well. There is no way to scroll down to change the settings at the bottom. This goes for all three tabs.

Thank you for all the help so far.

Edit: Oh btw I failed to mention that I'm running Boinc as a service.

5.10.7 has fixed the issue with Boinc not suspending tasks in both shared and service installs.

Thanks a lot for the help and thank you dev's for fixing this.

It seems I were too quick to declare the issue gone. I noticed after a while that Boinc was again running when it shouldn't. Being busy at the time I just turned the service off. When I later wanted to resume computation I ran the manager and it was again able to start and stop as it was supposed to. Curious about this I checked the services and noticed the manager had not started it which I then did. After this Boinc again did not work.

The conclusion is that as long as the service is not running, the manager is able to suspend and resume as it should. If the service is running it cannot. This might have been the case with the earlier version as well. It probably was if the update didn't have anything to do with this as mentioned. What got me confused was that it seemed to work just after installing the new version. I'm unsure about why that was the case.

Hope this helps.

Tried version 5.10.8, but still having this problem also. Has the alpha list provided any suggestions?

might be a case of ownership... who runs/starts the service and who is using the comp. Though it's a service, think BOINCmgr can still connect. Try switching that on as maybe your service is not listening to the preferences you set.... it's that trial and error thing.

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BUMP.

There are others, like me, out there who are having the same issue (Boinc Service not suspending when user active under Vista) and are lurking for resolution.

Work around of "Improved Windows Vista compatibility" by running all Boinc components as priviliged administrator makes me a bit nervous ... not for my PCs, but for other non-technical-folk's PCs who are remote from me and I've convinced to contribute CPU cycles when their PC is idle.

Public beta version appears to be 5.10.13 w/improved Vista compatibility.
But for remote machines, I really feel better staying away from Beta versions.

Please. Someone who is having this issue please post to the alpha list. I don't know what other questions to ask. The developers read that list. They'll be able to ask the questions and get any debugging information needed to figure this out.

[I have done a clean install of 5.10.13 and the issue remains. I also tried having the service run with my credentials or as a system service and there was no change.

I just installed the seti Crunch3er optimized apps (http://calbe.dw70.de/2.4V/2.4V_Windows_x64_SSSE3_GFX.zip) and it made the issue go away. I'm running seti, cpdn and lhc.

Funny thing is as far as I can see I don't get the message telling me I'm using the optimized app. Perhaps the issue is not related to the app itself but some configuration relating to it is.

10/09/2007 10:42:08||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.18 for windows_x86_64
10/09/2007 10:42:08||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
10/09/2007 10:42:08||Libraries: libcurl/7.16.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
10/09/2007 10:42:08||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC
10/09/2007 10:42:08||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz [EM64T Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6]
10/09/2007 10:42:08||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 pni
10/09/2007 10:42:08||OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: , (06.00.6000.00)
10/09/2007 10:42:08||Memory: 4.00 GB physical, 8.15 GB virtual
10/09/2007 10:42:08||Disk: 465.76 GB total, 202.87 GB free
10/09/2007 10:42:08||Local time is UTC +1 hours
10/09/2007 10:42:08|climateprediction.net|URL: http://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID: 696070; location: home; project prefs: default
10/09/2007 10:42:08|lhcathome|URL: http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/; Computer ID: 9620054; location: home; project prefs: default
10/09/2007 10:42:08|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 3454899; location: home; project prefs: default
10/09/2007 10:42:08||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-08-14 03:39:14)
10/09/2007 10:42:08||Host location: home
10/09/2007 10:42:08||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
10/09/2007 10:42:08||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 2047.28MB
10/09/2007 10:42:08||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 3685.11MB
10/09/2007 10:42:08||Preferences limit disk usage to 93.13GB
10/09/2007 10:43:09|SETI@home|Restarting task 13fe07ac.7306.239531.3.5.157_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/09/2007 10:43:09|SETI@home|Restarting task 13fe07ac.7306.239531.3.5.85_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/09/2007 10:48:47||Suspending computation - user is active
10/09/2007 10:48:52||Resuming computation
10/09/2007 11:07:41||Suspending computation - user is active
10/09/2007 11:07:45||Resuming computation
10/09/2007 11:18:07||Suspending computation - user is active
10/09/2007 11:18:10||Resuming computation

I just installed the seti Crunch3er optimized apps (http://calbe.dw70.de/2.4V/2.4V_Windows_x64_SSSE3_GFX.zip) and it made the issue go away. I'm running seti, cpdn and lhc.

I just installed the seti Crunch3er optimized apps (http://calbe.dw70.de/2.4V/2.4V_Windows_x64_SSSE3_GFX.zip) and it made the issue go away. I'm running seti, cpdn and lhc.

If you are only running the standard apps from cpdn and lhc (NO SETI) is the issue still there?

This previous post identifies "17/06/2007 14:05:13||Reading preferences override file" while the problem is still there. I notice in Tinface's listing that line is NOT there w/ location=home but no preferences set for home, so BOINC using DEFAULT preferences.

Tinface: Can you create local preferences override & see if issue reappears?

So, this seems like it is a SETI issue and not a BOINC issue?
Other projects tried so far suspend as they are supposed to???
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So, this seems like it is a SETI issue and not a BOINC issue?
Other projects tried so far suspend as they are supposed to???

5.10.27 seems to have fixed this problem. I double checked that the service is actually running this time :)

Can anyone else confirm this? I'm not going to post on the trac ticket again till I'm sure the bug is actually gone for good.

Edit: I ran 5.10.20 until upgrading to .27. The fix might have been in any inbetween version.

Very nice, thanks for the info.

I Don't know a whole lot about what I am doing with BOINC, except that I am delighted that my four computers are doing something good, not just music and photos.

I am running projects on 2 core 2 duo very new machines, and two older PIII machines

Here is my question.

I have about seven projects on all of the machines. I am not worried about the two core 2 duo machines; but the 2 PIII machines: How do the tasks run? Does one task run until it is finished, or does it run for a time and share by switching off to another task? If this last would be the case, and because the machines do not run unless I am at home evenings and week ends(when I am home, they run flat out for 24 hrs), then I would worry about any given task not getting enough time to finish. This would be a total waste. I could cut down the number of projects easily if necessary,
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I have about seven projects on all of the machines. I am not worried about the two core 2 duo machines; but the 2 PIII machines: How do the tasks run? Does one task run until it is finished, or does it run for a time and share by switching off to another task? If this last would be the case, and because the machines do not run unless I am at home evenings and week ends(when I am home, they run flat out for 24 hrs), then I would worry about any given task not getting enough time to finish. This would be a total waste. I could cut down the number of projects easily if necessary,