The " real " problem is when the other companies " follow suit " and bet they will , could almost say it's the N.W.O making another move , but only if you were " so inclined " ;-) .
I think it could very well be the " start" of a very slippery slope ( probably " started " years / decades ago TBH ) but to where only time will tell that .
But like with everything there's ALWAYS good AND bad points to everything , the trouble starts trying to ballance them .

The " real " problem is when the other companies " follow suit " and bet they will , could almost say it's the N.W.O making another move , but only if you were " so inclined " ;-) .
I think it could very well be the " start" of a very slippery slope ( probably " started " years / decades ago TBH ) but to where only time will tell that .
But like with everything there's ALWAYS good AND bad points to everything , the trouble starts trying to ballance them .

All that data will have to be given to the government now that they collect it.

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"Gibraltar has accused Spain of manipulating the European Council for its own political interests."

Now that Article 50 has been signed, the fun begins :-)

"Gibraltar has accused Spain of manipulating the European Council for its own political interests."

Think it was a bit obvious this was going to start again same goes for Argentina a couple of islands down there ;-) .
Do the negotiations in the afternoon , most of Spain's asleep in't it ;-)

LOL. They're trying to change it.

No more Siesta

Royal Navy 'far weaker' than it was during Falklands War
Britain's Royal Navy is substantially weaker than it was during the Falklands War but could still "cripple" Spain, military experts have said.

I don't think I could stand another ten years of this fighting
All this stabbing and wounding - only getting my own back
I don't want to batter you to your feet and knees and elbows
When I'm kneeling like a candle at the foot of my own bed
Corresponding disasters every night on the TV
Sickening reality keeps gripping me in its guts
All my friends talk and joke and laugh about Armageddon
But like a nightmare it's still waiting there at the end of every day
War baby - you were a
War baby - this means
War baby - I'm scared, so scared

© Tom Robinson, 1983, "War baby"

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Britain's Royal Navy

Not just the Royal Navy , " sold out "to that very one sided " special relationship " !! and don't care if that offends anyone coz IT'S THE TRUTH !!!

Royal Navy 'far weaker' than it was during Falklands War
Britain's Royal Navy is substantially weaker than it was during the Falklands War but could still "cripple" Spain, military experts have said.

Doubt that for several good reasons.

1: Due to the coalition governments "penny-pinching" SDR, there have been ships sitting idle at the docks because of insufficient funds to maintain regular sea duty & exercises.

2: The scrapping of our aircraft carriers before their replacement was in active service.

3: Now that article 50 has been signed, cannot see the EU letting an outsider attack one of its members (would be great test of the EU's "so-called" resolve in maintaining unity).

Should anything happen from 2020 onwards, where will the RN ships come from?

Once this enters service, it will require a battle group just to protect her. What happens to other naval duties?

Just had a P.M asking me to post this

Chris S has asked me to post this here upon his behalf.

Normally I have no time for the Waily Fail, but today they have gone up in my estimation. A quite deserved two page spread regarding Spain & Gibraltar. The Treaty of Utrecht, signed in 1713 after the Spanish Wars of Succession, ceded Gibraltar to the UK "In Perpetuity". For those in Iberia that cannot understand the English language that means FOR EVER!!!

Spain whinges that it was just spoils of war and was unfair. Tough! Wars happen, and when they do there are winners and losers. Spain lost. Deal with it.

I love Gibraltar, had three holidays there over the years at Europa Point. A little bit of England in the sun. If need be I'll go out there and fight the Spanish off with my bare knuckles, and I have written to the Spanish embassy in london telling Mr. Carlos Bastarreche exactly what my thoughts are.

Lord Howard was 100% right, we expect Theresa May to be as reolute over Gibraltar as Maggie was over the Falklands.

Retaliation 1

Retaliation 2

Oooops

So, Chris wants us to cherry-pick just one outcome from the Treaties of Utrecht from 1713, does he? Doesn't fancy taking his holidays in Newfoundland or on the shores of Hudson Bay?



I love the description of 18th. century politics in the Responses section of the article I linked:

Oxford and Bolingbroke persuaded the Queen to create twelve new "Tory peers" to ensure ratification of the treaty in the House of Lords.

Then as now, British domestic politics cast a long shadow over the rest of the world. I suspect that the 'Free Trade' Tories were most interested in Gibraltar as a repair and re-provisioning port on the Triangular trade route - the British gained a monopoly over the slave trade by the same treaty. I presume you want to revive that, too?

@ Chris, if you want to reply to that question, please do so here under your own account, for all to read. Boycotting the thread, then asking others to post on your behalf, seems to me to carry a touch of... What was that word you used about me in PM, again?

So, Chris wants us to cherry-pick just one outcome from the Treaties of Utrecht from 1713

I wouldn't know Chris just asked me to post it for him , you would have to ask him .
1713 , That's about tea time here then get ready to watch the Simpsons on C4 with a couple of " smokes " and unwind and relax for the evening :-)

Now retired but active in local politics at Constituency Exec level.

Probably why he requires a spokesperson in case any of his statements will be taken out of context & can blame someone else for errors :-)

1713 , That's about tea time here...

You should just have time to nip up the road to Lincolnshire and stage yourself a re-enactment of the Boston Tea Party. Another example of our (in-)glorious colonial past. (Read the Tea_Act to see how duty-free trade via the Nederlands was treated as smuggling)

Another example of our (in-)glorious colonial past.

There's not much to be proud about there , that's for sure . I know that :-(

LOL.

Would you risk jail for a cuppa?

LOL.

Would you risk jail for a cuppa?

Quite possible some of my ancestors did, considering I have distant connections to Mayfield, the Cuckmere river and Alfriston.

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Anyone here wanting to visit anyone over there in the USA? Do it now... before the extreme vetting policy is going into action. With the extreme vetting you are required to reveal mobile phone contacts, social media passwords, financial data and answer questions on ideology.

This could require people to hand over their phones so officials can study their stored contacts and possibly other information. The aim is to “figure out who you are communicating with”, a senior Department of Homeland Security official was quoted as saying. “What you can get on the average person’s phone can be invaluable.”

A second change would ask applicants for their social media handles and passwords, so that officials could see information posted privately in addition to public posts, the Journal said.

Kelly told a House homeland security committee hearing in February: “We want to say for instance, ‘What sites do you visit? And give us your passwords,’ so that we can see what they do on the internet. If they don’t want to give us that information then they don’t come.”

Try to explain you really do not have a Facebook account. "Everyone has a Facebook account, sir, so don't lie to us!"
I wouldn't even be able to give them the required info, as all my passwords - and there's around 70 of them now - are stored in Keepass. I don't remember them all, only the one for Keepass. :)

I don't do Social Media either. Having to give some stranger any of my passwords, good luck. I might remember five. If they want to see my posts here or on Seti, they are more than welcome.

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Pluto will always be a planet to me.

Simple answer - turn it around. Any Yank visiting the RotW has to provide the same or stay at home :-)

Good question